Affirmative Action: Any thoughts?

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Conservative basketball team = the best 5 players you can find. It does’t matter if they are black, white or Asian, if they are male or female, if they are gay or straight. Just the best 5 players available.

Liberal basketball team = 1 black, 1 Asian, 1 female, 1 gay, and 1 handicapped. It doesn’t matter whether they can play basketball or not. Then say the Conservatives are cheating when they start to win, demand that you get 3 shots for every 1 shot the conservatives get and whine about the officiating.
 
Having lived in South Aafrica for many years, I saw affirmative action in action,very close up. The old regime imposed it through apartheid, and, since the revoltion,the new government has imposed it through legislation.Indeed,in some spheres, such as sport, they are still wrestling with the problem,with sportsmen,and women, migrating to play overseas, because they have fallen foul of the quota system.
In my view, selection, whether in business,politicsor sport, should always be on merit.It is wrong to day a person must be given that role because he/she is of a certain colour,male, femaleor whatever.
However, I do add one rider: everyone must be given equal opportunity,and those who have been denied equal education,facilities etc must be graetly assisted to reach the levsl of others.
 
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Having lived in South Aafrica for many years, I saw affirmative action in action,very close up. The old regime imposed it through apartheid, and, since the revoltion,the new government has imposed it through legislation.Indeed,in some spheres, such as sport, they are still wrestling with the problem,with sportsmen,and women, migrating to play overseas, because they have fallen foul of the quota system.
In my view, selection, whether in business,politicsor sport, should always be on merit.It is wrong to day a person must be given that role because he/she is of a certain colour,male, femaleor whatever.
However, I do add one rider: everyone must be given equal opportunity,and those who have been denied equal education,facilities etc must be graetly assisted to reach the levsl of others.
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I totally agree, the playing field must be level in all areas including education and training. There should be no problem giving anyone the training they need to succeed. The problem arises when they are given the job without the training or the ability to do it.
 
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Conservative basketball team = the best 5 players you can find. It does’t matter if they are black, white or Asian, if they are male or female, if they are gay or straight. Just the best 5 players available.

Liberal basketball team = 1 black, 1 Asian, 1 female, 1 gay, and 1 handicapped. It doesn’t matter whether they can play basketball or not. Then say the Conservatives are cheating when they start to win, demand that you get 3 shots for every 1 shot the conservatives get and whine about the officiating.
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Perfect illustration.
 
I don’t feel that affimative action is a good way to get diversity in the work place. I know here in California, it was a big thing, and a lot of qualified people lost out on jobs because they weren’t the right race. I also get irritated when qualified people are turned down for a job because they aren’t bilingual (which also happens a lot in CA). I’m not racist in the least. My husband in Mexican and I work in a economically poor, minority majority school. I feel education is the key, and proper job training. That is the standard employers should look for in an employee, not what race they are or how many languages they can speak.
 
Against- it is unfair to be biased against white people too!
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🤷 Really all there is to it, and they voted “before” Obama “prophetic”.
 
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