It was a quote from an ECF that she called “goobleygook”, so my guess is that is code for “I do not understand this, but because a Catholic is using it in support of a doctrine, it is false.”
But would it not be easier to say. Oh you are right you got me there. Or Yes something I need to think about. But why bring knife to a gun fight. And then when you get shot blame the gunmen. You know what I mean. Its like take a kitten away from its Mom before its ready and blame the cat for attacking you.
Of course. We can tell from these discussions she is not an honest person.
**Hi Ashley,
You don’t know what you are talking about!Shhhh don’t tell Ag I said that she has this thing with :nunchuk: They hurt!
God Bless **
uch: uch: I’ve just seen his new tagline 
Sorry guanophore - I was referring to the fact I didnt think any new arguments (did you catch that Cinette
) against the Church would be raised, not that I didnt think you and others would not continue to explain and clarify the Church’s teaching - and you’re next post demonstrated the point amply 
Thank you.Did you hear that noise?
I can’t do any better than to add benedictus2 to the above list and echo the sentiments entirely. Thank you all for such an illuminating discussion.To: Ag_Not, Cinnete, Twb, Fb19, Rinnie, Hisalone, Tqualey, Martin, AshleyBelle, TantumErgo, Angels_Unaware, Bett_ur_Kidding, Henning, Underdog, RealCatholik, notsmart, Matariel, ChurchMilitant, Luke65, Techno, RobHom, and anyone else I may have missed.
This is my last posting for the year or at least till after Christmas.
**Your posts have made my day. They have been entertaining, infuriating, hilarious and enlightening. You have made me laugh so much I am sure God will count that in your favour.You know like 10 points for getting others to roll out in laughter.
I wish you all a most Blessed Christmas, truly aware of the Emmanuel.
Now we contemplate God entering human history.
Christ was born in Bethlehem, which means “House of Bread”
He was laid in a manger, a feeding trough.
His birth was already pointing to the Eucharist.
Like Mary, may we manifest Him by our lives.
May the Prince of Peace, grant you and all yours, His Peace.
)No. You wrongly assume that the only value of a sinning Christian to the enemy is hell. He loves to disgrace God and waste Christian’s lives by ensnaring them in sin.
And the consequence of getting someone to disgrace God and waste their lives in sin would be …??
waste Christian lives??? how can he waste a Christian life if their forever bound for heaven regardless of how much he makes them sin… besides aren’t those sins hidden from God because we’re covered with the blood of Jesus???
Okay there Martin then what value to God is it for a Christian to sin? I do not understand?
That is what you said Martin!
???
I’m not letting you off the hook! It’s for your own good. First, the Holy Spirit guided the writing of Romans 100%. So no error, no contradictions-EVER. If you practice sin, it enslaves you. That is not the slavery/fear Paul is talking about. Read the verse again.
Sorry what I thought you meant was when Martin said we are saved no matter what we do, meant that the devil could temp all he wants and even if we sin we are cool, I must have misunderstood you. My mistake.
:hypno: :hypno: :hypno: I’m in a transe now… Paul never feared for his salvation… he was always sure of it… he tells us the race is over, just relax and enjoy it now… Paul never feared for his salvation… he was always sure of it… he tells us the race is over, just relax and enjoy it now… Paul never feared for …:hypno: :hypno: :hypno:
I am not sure what this discussion is about so I will bow out. But martin if you are saying what the verse means, I believe that what paul says is by his death he did release us from sin. But the devil can always tempt us and we can fall back into sin. What Paul is saying there is no way you can sin and let grace prosper.
I do now, Sorry, My mistake. I don’t get a prize do I?Ohhhh… I was just role playing you see
SD
