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Jesus isn’t buried anywhere as He rose from the dead in His physical body (which was changed and glorified) and thus ascended into heaven.
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So where is this Muslim Issa a la Qadiyani buried?
Ghulam Ahmad did what Muhammad and Smith did. They have many things in common.
Ghulam Ahmad did what Muhammad and Smith did. They have many things in common.
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paarsurrey
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HiSo where is this Muslim Issa a la Qadiyani buried?
The Second Coming 1835-1908 is buried in Qadian, his native village he was born in.
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paarsurrey
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HiGhulam Ahmad did what Muhammad and Smith did. They have many things in common.
Smith was killed by someone.
The Second Coming 1835-1908 died naturally.
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swariffin
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Since Mirza Ghulam Ahmad live in the period of 1895 - 1900’s, in which modern technology is available?, what proof he brought up rather than merely arguments? What method did Prof Fida was using? Any mentioning in the journal of Prof Fida’s scientific dicipline?alislam.org/topics/jesus/
(Jesus’ ) Life after Crucifixion
After his survival, Jesus as travelled as far as Kashmir, India and preached to the Lost Tribes of Israel. His tomb can be found there to this day.
Lost Tribes Found: He went towards India in search of the lost tribes. more XBeyond the Euphrates
Traditional Jewish history and Biblical texts divided this Semitic people into twelve tribes. In the time of Jesus, only two of the tribes were in the region Jesus preached, whereas the whereabouts of the remaining ten has always been a bit of a mystery.
The second century historian Josephus wrote in his book Antiquities of the Jews that the ten tribes were ‘beyond Euphrates’ in his time, east of present day Iraq and in the Persian empire of the time which extended into India.
It is also notable that early Church history documents the existence of a Gospel in the Hebrew language found in India, which also confirms Israelites in India. St Jerome (c 400 A.D) wrote that the scholar Pantaenus in the second century came across the document in his travels. St Jerome further wrote that the Israelites in his time continue to live in the Persian empire.
The mission of Jesus was to reach out to the Lost Tribes (or ‘Sheep’) of Israel, as stated in Matthew 15:24. It was thus imperative for him to migrate to the east.
The mass of evidence showing that the peoples of Afghanistan, north-west India (particularly Kashmir) and neighboring areas are of Israelite ancestry continues to grow. Their physical features, language, folklore, customs and festivals attest to their Israelite heritage. Evidence also come from the names they give to their villages, their monuments and ancient historical works.
Some pilot genetic studies on peoples in India who to this day call themselves ‘Bene Israel’ or ‘Children of Israel’ confirm their middle eastern origin.
Tomb of Jesus: Recently discovered and preserved in Kashmir, India. close XThe Kashmir Tomb
The burial place of Jesus in Kashmir is known to the locals as Rauzabal, meaning the Honored Tomb.
It is known as the tomb of Yuz Asaf, which may be of Buddhist derivation (see link) or possibly from Yusu or Yehoshua (Jesus) the Gatherer.
Local tradition states that the entombed was a prophet of Ahle-Kitab, or People of the Book, and his name was Isa - the Quranic name for Jesus.
The prophet Yuz Asaf came to Kashmir from the West (Holy Land) in the reign of Raja Gopdatta (c 1st century A.D) according to the ancient official documents held by the current custodian of the tomb.
Some of the most extensive research on the tomb has been conducted by the now retired famous historian and former Head of Archaelogy for State of Kashmir, Professor Fida Hassnain.
The tomb is Jewish, as attested by the direction the grave is lying. Next to the grave is a footprint engraved in stone, an artistic rendition of the wounds of crucifixion.
alislam.org/topics/jesus/
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swariffin
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Yep, and Muhammad died of poisoning.Hi
Smith was killed by someone.
The Second Coming 1835-1908 died naturally.
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swariffin
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BTW, my dear friend Paarsurrey and Planten, Have you got any answer of why your Imam Mahdi claimed that Jesus’ tomb was in Galilee in 1892, changed in to Syria, and later changed in again to Khasmir?
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swariffin
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Perhaps the Indiana Jones movies were inspired by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad’s quest for the lost tribe of Israel.
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Questo sito fornisce numerose evidenze che Gesù Cristo è morto e sepolto in una tomba a Srinagar, Kashmir, India, e non ritornerà sulla Terra.
This site provides much evidence that Jesus Christ died and was buried in a tomb in Srinagar, Kashmir, India, and not return to Earth.
Il sito prende in esame una serie di prove che vanno dalla Sindone di Torino all’origine israelita di alcune genti dell’Asia.
The site looks at a series of tests ranging from the Shroud of Turin to Israel of some peoples of Asia.
Si propone lo scopo di raccogliere i risultati di ricerche e di materiale vario collegati a questa teoria e provenienti dalle fonti più diverse.
It is proposed to collect the results of research and various materials related to this theory, and coming from different sources.
Il materiale che si trova nel sito è disponibile anche in forma stampata nel libro “Saving the Savior:
Did Jesus survive the Crucifixion?” disponibile The material that is found in the site is also available in printed form in the book “Saving the Savior: Did Jesus survive the Crucifixion?” Available qui . here.
E’ importante tener presente fin dall’inizio che questa teoria non è un prodotto del movimento “New Age”.
It 'important to keep in mind from the outset that this theory is not a product of the movement “New Age”.
Questo sito è dedicato a presentare l’ipotesi che Gesù Cristo è sopravvissuto fisicamente alla crocifissione come essere umano “normale”, poi ha viaggiato verso oriente per raggiungere le tribù ebraiche che si erano sparse sui confini settentrionali dell’Afghanistan ed in Kashmir, nell’India del nord.
This site is dedicated to the idea that Jesus Christ physically survived the crucifixion as a human being “normal”, then traveled eastwards to reach the Jewish tribes who were scattered on the northern border of Afghanistan and in Kashmir, in ’ northern India.
Era possibile sopravvivere a una crocifissione?
It was possible to survive a crucifixion?
Leggiamo il seguente resoconto di Giuseppe Flavio, uno storico dell’antichità:
We read the following statement of Josephus, a historian of antiquity:
“Fui mandato da Tito Cesare con Ceralio e un migliaio di uomini a cavallo in una cittadina chiamata Thecoa, per esaminare se vi si poteva installare un campo militare.
"I was sent by Titus Caesar with cereals and a thousand men on horseback in a small town called Thecoa to examine whether there was a military installation.
Al mio ritorno vidi molti prigionieri che erano stati crocifissi, e ne riconobbi tre, un tempo miei compagni. Molto turbato, andai da Tito con le lacrime agli occhi e gli parlai di loro.
Upon my return I saw many prisoners who had been crucified, and recognized three, once my friends. Very upset, I went to Tito with tears in his eyes and spoke to them.
Egli diede subito l’ordine di tirarli giù dalla croce e cercare nel modo migliore di farli guarire.
He immediately gave the order to tirarli down from the cross and search the best way to heal them.
Ma due di loro morirono mentre erano sotto le cure del dottore; il terzo invece si riprese e guarì.
” But two of them died while they were under the care of the doctor and the third hand is healed and shooting. "
(Giuseppe Flavio, Vita, IV, 75) (Josephus, Vita, IV, 75)
La teoria sostenuta in questo sito web continua così: dopo essere sopravvissuto alla crocifissione, Gesù Cristo arrivò in Kashmir, dove rimase per il resto della sua vita.
The theory supported in this web site continues: after surviving the crucifixion, Jesus Christ came to Kashmir, where he remained for the rest of his life.
Lì prese parte alla vita delle tribù israelite della zona, continuando a pregare.
There he took part in the life of the Israelite tribe of the area and continued to pray.
Il libro Negaristan-i-Kashmir dice che egli poi sposò una donna di nome Marian, che gli diede dei figli.
**The book Negaristan-i-Kashmir said that he later married a woman named Marian, who gave him their children. **
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NEL SITO WEB “LA TOMBA DI GESU’ CRISTO” WEB SITE IN THE TOMB OF JESUS 'CHRIST
Questo sito fornisce numerose evidenze che Gesù Cristo è morto e sepolto in una tomba a Srinagar, Kashmir, India, e non ritornerà sulla Terra.
This site provides much evidence that Jesus Christ died and was buried in a tomb in Srinagar, Kashmir, India, and not return to Earth.
Il sito prende in esame una serie di prove che vanno dalla Sindone di Torino all’origine israelita di alcune genti dell’Asia.
The site looks at a series of tests ranging from the Shroud of Turin to Israel of some peoples of Asia.
Si propone lo scopo di raccogliere i risultati di ricerche e di materiale vario collegati a questa teoria e provenienti dalle fonti più diverse.
It is proposed to collect the results of research and various materials related to this theory, and coming from different sources.
Il materiale che si trova nel sito è disponibile anche in forma stampata nel libro “Saving the Savior:
Did Jesus survive the Crucifixion?” disponibile The material that is found in the site is also available in printed form in the book “Saving the Savior: Did Jesus survive the Crucifixion?” Available qui . here.
E’ importante tener presente fin dall’inizio che questa teoria non è un prodotto del movimento “New Age”.
It 'important to keep in mind from the outset that this theory is not a product of the movement “New Age”.
Questo sito è dedicato a presentare l’ipotesi che Gesù Cristo è sopravvissuto fisicamente alla crocifissione come essere umano “normale”, poi ha viaggiato verso oriente per raggiungere le tribù ebraiche che si erano sparse sui confini settentrionali dell’Afghanistan ed in Kashmir, nell’India del nord.
This site is dedicated to the idea that Jesus Christ physically survived the crucifixion as a human being “normal”, then traveled eastwards to reach the Jewish tribes who were scattered on the northern border of Afghanistan and in Kashmir, in ’ northern India.
Era possibile sopravvivere a una crocifissione?
It was possible to survive a crucifixion?
Leggiamo il seguente resoconto di Giuseppe Flavio, uno storico dell’antichità:
We read the following statement of Josephus, a historian of antiquity:
“Fui mandato da Tito Cesare con Ceralio e un migliaio di uomini a cavallo in una cittadina chiamata Thecoa, per esaminare se vi si poteva installare un campo militare.
"I was sent by Titus Caesar with cereals and a thousand men on horseback in a small town called Thecoa to examine whether there was a military installation.
Al mio ritorno vidi molti prigionieri che erano stati crocifissi, e ne riconobbi tre, un tempo miei compagni. Molto turbato, andai da Tito con le lacrime agli occhi e gli parlai di loro.
Upon my return I saw many prisoners who had been crucified, and recognized three, once my friends. Very upset, I went to Tito with tears in his eyes and spoke to them.
Egli diede subito l’ordine di tirarli giù dalla croce e cercare nel modo migliore di farli guarire.
He immediately gave the order to tirarli down from the cross and search the best way to heal them.
Ma due di loro morirono mentre erano sotto le cure del dottore; il terzo invece si riprese e guarì.
” But two of them died while they were under the care of the doctor and the third hand is healed and shooting. "
(Giuseppe Flavio, Vita, IV, 75) (Josephus, Vita, IV, 75)
La teoria sostenuta in questo sito web continua così: dopo essere sopravvissuto alla crocifissione, Gesù Cristo arrivò in Kashmir, dove rimase per il resto della sua vita.
The theory supported in this web site continues: after surviving the crucifixion, Jesus Christ came to Kashmir, where he remained for the rest of his life.
Lì prese parte alla vita delle tribù israelite della zona, continuando a pregare.
There he took part in the life of the Israelite tribe of the area and continued to pray.
Il libro Negaristan-i-Kashmir dice che egli poi sposò una donna di nome Marian, che gli diede dei figli.
**The book Negaristan-i-Kashmir said that he later married a woman named Marian, who gave him their children. **
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paarsurrey
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Morì alla tarda età di 120 anni.
**He died at the age of 120 years. **
La sua tomba si trova nel quartiere Mohala Kan Yar della città di Srinagar, capitale dello Jammu & Kashmir, India del Nord, ed è chiamata Roza Bal (“Il posto della Tomba Onorata”).
**His tomb is located in Mohala Kan Yar district of the city of Srinagar, capital of Jammu & Kashmir, North India, and is called Roza Bal **
( "The place of the tomb Onorata).
La fotografia che si vede sulla homepage è riprodotta per gentile concessione di Holger Kersten
The photo you see on the homepage is reproduced courtesy of Holger Kersten
Durante i suoi viaggi – si dice – ha assunto il nome di Yuz Asaf (Yus Asaph), un nome che, secondo alcuni, significava “Gesù il Raccoglitore”, ed è sepolto a Roza Bal sotto quel nome.
During his travels - they say - given the name of Yuz Asaf (Yus Asaph), a name which, according to some, meant “Jesus the Collector”, and is buried in Roza Bal under that name.
Questo sito, e le informazioni che contiene, non sono proprietà di qualche particolare fede o “ismo” o organizzazione; inoltre l’idea di una vita di Gesù dopo la crocifissione non è l’invenzione di un individuo particolare.
This site and the information it contains, does not belong to any particular faith or “ism” or organization and that the idea of a life of Jesus after the crucifixion is not the invention of a particular individual.
Per tutto il tempo che va da S. For all the time that goes from St. Ireneo (125 dC-202 dC) fino allo studioso Dott. Fida Hassnain, ci sono state molte persone che hanno fornito informazioni sul fatto che Gesù è stato visto in “Asia” o in India molto tempo dopo la crocifissione.
Irenaeus (125 AD-202 AD) to the scholar Dr. Fida Hassnain, there have been many people who provided information on the fact that Jesus was seen in Asia or in India long after the crucifixion.
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Morì alla tarda età di 120 anni.
**He died at the age of 120 years. **
La sua tomba si trova nel quartiere Mohala Kan Yar della città di Srinagar, capitale dello Jammu & Kashmir, India del Nord, ed è chiamata Roza Bal (“Il posto della Tomba Onorata”).
**His tomb is located in Mohala Kan Yar district of the city of Srinagar, capital of Jammu & Kashmir, North India, and is called Roza Bal **
( "The place of the tomb Onorata).
La fotografia che si vede sulla homepage è riprodotta per gentile concessione di Holger Kersten
The photo you see on the homepage is reproduced courtesy of Holger Kersten
Durante i suoi viaggi – si dice – ha assunto il nome di Yuz Asaf (Yus Asaph), un nome che, secondo alcuni, significava “Gesù il Raccoglitore”, ed è sepolto a Roza Bal sotto quel nome.
During his travels - they say - given the name of Yuz Asaf (Yus Asaph), a name which, according to some, meant “Jesus the Collector”, and is buried in Roza Bal under that name.
Questo sito, e le informazioni che contiene, non sono proprietà di qualche particolare fede o “ismo” o organizzazione; inoltre l’idea di una vita di Gesù dopo la crocifissione non è l’invenzione di un individuo particolare.
This site and the information it contains, does not belong to any particular faith or “ism” or organization and that the idea of a life of Jesus after the crucifixion is not the invention of a particular individual.
Per tutto il tempo che va da S. For all the time that goes from St. Ireneo (125 dC-202 dC) fino allo studioso Dott. Fida Hassnain, ci sono state molte persone che hanno fornito informazioni sul fatto che Gesù è stato visto in “Asia” o in India molto tempo dopo la crocifissione.
Irenaeus (125 AD-202 AD) to the scholar Dr. Fida Hassnain, there have been many people who provided information on the fact that Jesus was seen in Asia or in India long after the crucifixion.
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planten
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** I do not know about mormons. So I cannot say anything. But I know very much about Ahmadis. I also know that he (Ahmad) was not a liar. He claimed to be a sub-ordinate messenger under the command of Muhammad. That was in 1892 A.D. He claimed that he was the promised Masiha of the Muslim Ummah, the Masiha that was promised by the prophet Muhammad.Ah I see. According to the Ahmadiyya there is Quran, Sunnah, Hadits, and the book of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. I think I have heard the same story of a particular religion in the America, called Mormonism. How do I know that those books become the basis of your belief too unless you declare it today in your posting. You always said that you based your belief in Quran, and challenge anybody to show any Quranic verses for any claim he/she wrote. Now you tell me that you based your belief on the personal writing of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad too. What next? Will you declare that the angel of Jibril talked to Mirza as well?
he claimed that God spoke to him and gave him the news of the unseen things. Surely that must have been through an angel or through some vision. he wrote down all the revelation (communion) that he received and published them. he was faithful to the British government. That is why the Maulvis accused him of being a British agent.**
**swariffin, God told Mirza sahib that Jesus son of Mary had died. He doubted that because he believed jesus to be alive in heavens like all other Muslims. When He doubted it, he was informed with some emphasis to look into the Quran.Ups, sorry. I forgot that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was the Imam Mahdi, although he was mistaken twice to determine the tomb of Jesus.
When he checked the Quran, the peaceful, passing away of Jesus was all over the Quran. Thereafter, he never believed that Jesus a.s. was alive.
God did not tell Mirza Sahib about the burial place of Jesus. he also never said that the news of the burial of Jesus in Kashmir is from God. But he believed it to be so and wrote some book about it.
The son (Dr. nazir Ahmad) of one of his disciples also wrote a book on the subject titled “Jesus in Heavens on earth”. Quite convincing book with maps and photos and vocabulary.**
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dolphinlove
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Ill be honest here, I cant be bothered going back and reading the other responses, but do we have an answer where Jesus is supposedly buried in India?
No Paarsurrey, i dont want to read a book about it, i just want the location, thats it.
God bless
No Paarsurrey, i dont want to read a book about it, i just want the location, thats it.
God bless
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paarsurrey
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HiIll be honest here, I cant be bothered going back and reading the other responses, but do we have an answer where Jesus is supposedly buried in India?
No Paarsurrey, i dont want to read a book about it, i just want the location, thats it.
God bless
Jesus’ grave is in Mohallah Khanyar, Sirinagar, Kashmir, India.
I love Jesus and Mary as I do love Buddha and Krishna
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dolphinlove
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Thank you Paarsurrey…Hi
Jesus’ grave is in Mohallah Khanyar, Sirinagar, Kashmir, India.
I love Jesus and Mary as I do love Buddha and Krishna
Thanks
Off topic, quick question for you…
Why do you love Buddha and Krishna when you dont believe in them?
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wina
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And please tell me what kind of proof that you can give to prove Jesus’ grave in Mahollah Khanyar, Sirinagar, Kashmir, India ?Hi
Jesus’ grave is in Mohallah Khanyar, Sirinagar, Kashmir, India.
I love Jesus and Mary as I do love Buddha and Krishna
Thanks
And please don’t tell me to read any books again?
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paarsurrey
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HiOff topic, quick question for you…
Why do you love Buddha and Krishna when you dont believe in them?
I think you would enjoy the following question and answer:
Krishna - `I am the Beginning and the End’
Questioner: My question is about Lord Krishna (as). We Hindus treat Lord Krishna (as) as the creator, the preserver and the destroyer of all beings. As he himself said, ‘of all the creations, I am the beginning and the end and the middle. I am unborn and without beginning. Though I am the Lord of all sentient beings, I still appear every millennium in my original transcendental form.’
My question is, how far does this religious philosophy conform with the philosophy of Islam?
Hadhrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad: First of all, I beg to differ with you as far as the interpretation of these lines is concerned. I have been a student of comparative religion. I found that every religion, however idolatrous it may appear to us today, was fundamentally a monotheistic religion because if one does not accept this universal principle then arguments between religions will have no end whatsoever and each religion will be understood to have emanated from a different source, from a different God.
Now, as against the understanding of the Vedas which you have presented to us, you should have remembered also that this is exactly what Jesus Christ (as) said, that I am the Alpha, I am the Omega, and this is not only said by Jesus Christ (as) but also in the Holy Qur’an there is mention of this truth that the Holy Prophet Muhammad (as) is the source and means of people reaching God and when you say Khatemun Nabiyyeen (i.e. the `seal of all the Prophets’) then it can be understood as Omega.
But in another `Hadith’ (tradition of the Holy Prophet (saw)) he claims himself to be the very first, the Alpha and according to all the Muslim sects together, in view of some Qur’anic verses and declarations of the Holy Prophet (saw), he was the first to be born.
Now, the question here is that there are some translations made by yourself or somebody else, which indicate that Krishna (as) claimed that he was never born, that he is eternal. I have read the Bhagawat Geeta myself with deep attention and I have discovered only evidence of the truth and unity of God, and Krishna (as) himself only claimed to be a Messenger, no more.
For instance, his being called `murli dhar’ (flute player). Apparently, the flute is singing the song or creating the music but there is breath behind it. Then he has more hands than ordinary people and he has a body, a well defined body, but instead of two hands he has four hands and he is also known to have possessed wings.
Now, what do these symbols, or if they are not symbols, the literal facts indicate, that is the question! As you said, he gave us the glad tiding that every one thousand years `I will reappear in my original form’. Is this the original form of God? Is this the space of human stature, with four arms, he can be confined and then disappear somewhere and then begin to rule from there. This is a very, very limited understanding of the nature of God which he has created.
How could Lord Krishna (as) say that? There has to be some misunderstanding of his message or misinterpretation of his words. Such misunderstandings do appear in every religion because of the specific religious terminology. Take, for instance, the use of the word
wings'. The Holy Qur'an also uses the word wings’ in relation to angels.But the Holy Qur’an makes it specifically clear that these are not the
wings' used to fly with, only that the wings’ are indicative of attributes. So, if there are `two arms’, the attributes are half the number possessed by a person who has four arms. The angels grew in attributes and in this world, according to the Holy Qur’an, they have four wings. But in the hereafter they will have eight ‘wings’ and these are all metaphorical terms and figures, let’s say.For instance, the Holy Prophet Muhammad (saw) himself is told to lower his ‘wing’ of mercy over those who believe him. Then the people are told to lower their ‘wings’ over their parents. So these usages of the same word ‘wing’ elsewhere in the Qur’an makes it very clear to us that they are just terms which have been misunderstood and misapplied.
In short, according to the Ahmadiyya belief, Hadhrat Krishna (as) was a holy Messenger of Allah. He used a language of symbols to convey to the world of that time some truths and if you read the Bhagawat Geeta in detail, it is not just an account of war between two factions. It is, in reality, a masterpiece of description of goodness pitched against evil, or evil pitched against goodness. A battle between darkness and light.
Now, turn to Zoroastrianism, what Zoroaster says is again the same thing in different terms. He speaks of fire against darkness, and makes fire the symbol of truth which is God and darkness a symbol of falsehood which is the devil. One finds similar symbolic statements in the Bible and in the Holy Qur’an, but there they do not mean that evil had a separate entity in itself and emanated from a God who was independent of the God of goodness.
So, these are symbolic terms and the use of similar terminology is found in every religion. It is our duty not to be confused by them but to come to a reasonable, sensible understanding whereby we could reconcile the world religions as have emanated from the same single source that is God.
I hope this will be sufficient as I don’t think it will be very profitable to go much further into a debate on this issue.
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cathopologist
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paarsurrey, i asked a simple question and expected an educated response. I have repeated myself over and over and you* still* spam this thread with your Ahmadi rhetoric. Are you able to provide the evidence or not? Yes or No?
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wina
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paarsurrey, can you answer my question? or can’t you?
Originally Posted by paarsurrey :
Hi
Jesus’ grave is in Mohallah Khanyar, Sirinagar, Kashmir, India.
I love Jesus and Mary as I do love Buddha and Krishna
Thanks
Originally Posted by wina
And please tell me what kind of proof that you can give to prove Jesus’ grave in Mahollah Khanyar, Sirinagar, Kashmir, India ?
And please don’t tell me to read any books again?
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paarsurrey
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sol.com.au/kor/7_01.htm
Jesus Lived in India- Holger Kersten
Thus begins Holger Kersten’s book “Jesus Lived in India”. This German book is a thorough, methodical and authoritative examination of the evidence of Christ’s life beyond the Middle East before the Crucifixion and in India and elsewhere after it.
This article is a summary of Kersten’s exhaustive research into Christ’s travels after the Crucifixion, his arrival in India with the Mother Mary and finally his death and entombment in Kashmir. Kersten notes the many parallels of Christ’s teachings with other religious and cultural traditions and suggests that at least some of these figures may have been one and the same personality. It is not possible, Kersten asserts, to disprove that Christ went to India. The current information documenting Christ’s life is restricted to the gospels and the work of Church theologians. One can hardly trust these sources to be objective considering their obvious interest in maintaining the authority of
The third and fourth inscription read: “At this time Yuz Asaf announced his prophetic calling in Year 50 and 4” and “He is Jesus – Prophet of the Sons of Israel”! Herein lies a powerful confirmation of Kersten’s theory. Kersten suggests that Christ may have travelled to the South of India also, finally returning to Kashmir to die at the age of approximately 80 years. Christ’s tomb, says Kersten, lies in Srinagar’s old town in a building called Rozabal. “Rozabal” is an abbreviation of Rauza Bal, meaning “tomb of a prophet”. At the entrance there is an inscription explaining that Yuz Asaf is buried along with another Moslem saint. Both have gravestones which are oriented in North-South direction, according to Moslem tradition. However, through a small opening the true burial chamber can be seen, in which there is the Sarcophagus of Yuz Asaf in East-West (Jewish) orientation!
According to Professor Hassnain, who has studied this tomb, there are carved footprints on the grave stones and when closely examined, carved images of a crucifix and a rosary. The footprints of Yuz Asaf have what appear to be scars represented on both feet, if one assumes that they are crucifixion scars, then their position is consistent with the scars shown in the Turin Shroud (left foot nailed over right). Crucifixion was not practised in Asia, so it is quite possible that they were inflicted elsewhere, such as the Middle East. The tomb is called by some as “Hazrat Issa Sahib” or “Tomb of the Lord Master Jesus”. Ancient records acknowledge the existence of the tomb as long ago as 112AD. The Grand Mufti, a prominent Muslim Cleric, himself has confirmed that Hazrat Isa Sahib is indeed the tomb of Yuz Asaf!
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Jesus Lived in India- Holger Kersten
Jesus Lived in India- Holger Kersten
Thus begins Holger Kersten’s book “Jesus Lived in India”. This German book is a thorough, methodical and authoritative examination of the evidence of Christ’s life beyond the Middle East before the Crucifixion and in India and elsewhere after it.
This article is a summary of Kersten’s exhaustive research into Christ’s travels after the Crucifixion, his arrival in India with the Mother Mary and finally his death and entombment in Kashmir. Kersten notes the many parallels of Christ’s teachings with other religious and cultural traditions and suggests that at least some of these figures may have been one and the same personality. It is not possible, Kersten asserts, to disprove that Christ went to India. The current information documenting Christ’s life is restricted to the gospels and the work of Church theologians. One can hardly trust these sources to be objective considering their obvious interest in maintaining the authority of
The third and fourth inscription read: “At this time Yuz Asaf announced his prophetic calling in Year 50 and 4” and “He is Jesus – Prophet of the Sons of Israel”! Herein lies a powerful confirmation of Kersten’s theory. Kersten suggests that Christ may have travelled to the South of India also, finally returning to Kashmir to die at the age of approximately 80 years. Christ’s tomb, says Kersten, lies in Srinagar’s old town in a building called Rozabal. “Rozabal” is an abbreviation of Rauza Bal, meaning “tomb of a prophet”. At the entrance there is an inscription explaining that Yuz Asaf is buried along with another Moslem saint. Both have gravestones which are oriented in North-South direction, according to Moslem tradition. However, through a small opening the true burial chamber can be seen, in which there is the Sarcophagus of Yuz Asaf in East-West (Jewish) orientation!
According to Professor Hassnain, who has studied this tomb, there are carved footprints on the grave stones and when closely examined, carved images of a crucifix and a rosary. The footprints of Yuz Asaf have what appear to be scars represented on both feet, if one assumes that they are crucifixion scars, then their position is consistent with the scars shown in the Turin Shroud (left foot nailed over right). Crucifixion was not practised in Asia, so it is quite possible that they were inflicted elsewhere, such as the Middle East. The tomb is called by some as “Hazrat Issa Sahib” or “Tomb of the Lord Master Jesus”. Ancient records acknowledge the existence of the tomb as long ago as 112AD. The Grand Mufti, a prominent Muslim Cleric, himself has confirmed that Hazrat Isa Sahib is indeed the tomb of Yuz Asaf!
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Jesus Lived in India- Holger Kersten
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Yes Paar, So you believe in Quran at the same level with the book of Holger Kersten. But, why Holger Kersten never made it to the prophethood in Ahmadiyya? Without Holger, Mirza did not have a starting point to start his religion. What method that Holger Kersten used in such “exhaustive research”?sol.com.au/kor/7_01.htm
Jesus Lived in India- Holger Kersten
Thus begins Holger Kersten’s book “Jesus Lived in India”. This German book is a thorough, methodical and authoritative examination of the evidence of Christ’s life beyond the Middle East before the Crucifixion and in India and elsewhere after it.
This article is a summary of Kersten’s exhaustive research into Christ’s travels after the Crucifixion, his arrival in India with the Mother Mary and finally his death and entombment in Kashmir. Kersten notes the many parallels of Christ’s teachings with other religious and cultural traditions and suggests that at least some of these figures may have been one and the same personality. It is not possible, Kersten asserts, to disprove that Christ went to India. The current information documenting Christ’s life is restricted to the gospels and the work of Church theologians. One can hardly trust these sources to be objective considering their obvious interest in maintaining the authority of
The third and fourth inscription read: “At this time Yuz Asaf announced his prophetic calling in Year 50 and 4” and “He is Jesus – Prophet of the Sons of Israel”! Herein lies a powerful confirmation of Kersten’s theory. Kersten suggests that Christ may have travelled to the South of India also, finally returning to Kashmir to die at the age of approximately 80 years. Christ’s tomb, says Kersten, lies in Srinagar’s old town in a building called Rozabal. “Rozabal” is an abbreviation of Rauza Bal, meaning “tomb of a prophet”. At the entrance there is an inscription explaining that Yuz Asaf is buried along with another Moslem saint. Both have gravestones which are oriented in North-South direction, according to Moslem tradition. However, through a small opening the true burial chamber can be seen, in which there is the Sarcophagus of Yuz Asaf in East-West (Jewish) orientation!
According to Professor Hassnain, who has studied this tomb, there are carved footprints on the grave stones and when closely examined, carved images of a crucifix and a rosary. The footprints of Yuz Asaf have what appear to be scars represented on both feet, if one assumes that they are crucifixion scars, then their position is consistent with the scars shown in the Turin Shroud (left foot nailed over right). Crucifixion was not practised in Asia, so it is quite possible that they were inflicted elsewhere, such as the Middle East. The tomb is called by some as “Hazrat Issa Sahib” or “Tomb of the Lord Master Jesus”. Ancient records acknowledge the existence of the tomb as long ago as 112AD. The Grand Mufti, a prominent Muslim Cleric, himself has confirmed that Hazrat Isa Sahib is indeed the tomb of Yuz Asaf!
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Jesus Lived in India- Holger Kersten
You said the apostle is not credible. I tell you they were killed for what they believe. It is strange to me for you to believe to anybody who follow the way of Dan Brown to get rich and famous, but still keeping their heads. Do Holger Kersten is willing to die to stand on what he believe?
Remember Paar, Rosary did not exist at the time of Jesus and Mary. Your ProphetMessenger still presented his opinion, not being verified further.
Why? Kersten took it for granted of what inscriptions said. You did not show that Kersten did anything to proof the originality if the inscription. And you called it as "exhaustive research’?
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