Air Asia flight missing

[7_Sorrows]

It would appear some debris has been spotted that probably does come from the missing plane.

abc.net.au/news/2014-12-30/airasia-qz8501-debris-spotted-is-from-plane-official/5993438

Personally I think that when it’s all over, they’ll find the pilot tried to fly over a monsoon storm rather than go around it. He probably went too high, stalled, and went right into the storm.

Anyway that’s my opinion.

I wonder how deep the Java Sea is. I read it is a busy shipping lane.
I hope they will be able to confirm soon. Praying for the repose of souls on board.

 

[Bob_Crowley]

It would appear some debris has been spotted that probably does come from the missing plane.

abc.net.au/news/2014-12-30/airasia-qz8501-debris-spotted-is-from-plane-official/5993438

Personally I think that when it’s all over, they’ll find the pilot tried to fly over a monsoon storm rather than go around it. He probably went too high, stalled, and went right into the storm.

Anyway that’s my opinion.

It was definitely wreckage from the plane. An Indonesia warship says it has recovered dozens of bodies from the site.

abc.net.au/news/2014-12-30/airasia-qz8501-debris-spotted-is-from-plane-official/5993438

 

[Path_Finder]

Yes the story changed after several hours. The early reports gave what I posted.

Nobody called you wrong.

Just clarifying what happened. Sorry, I won’t converse or post factual information.

 

[Path_Finder]

Saddened by this, it appears to bring closure to the situation but the poor families.

People were not wearing life-jackets, they found the emergency door in the sea apparently.

Prayers for the families and for the repose of the souls of those who lost their lives.

 

[7_Sorrows]

Saddened by this, it appears to bring closure to the situation but the poor families.

People were not wearing life-jackets, they found the emergency door in the sea apparently.

Prayers for the families and for the repose of the souls of those who lost their lives.

I wonder what happened and why the emergency door came off.
I would not want to be the ones having to retrieve the bodies.

 

[7_Sorrows]

It was definitely wreckage from the plane. An Indonesia warship says it has recovered dozens of bodies from the site.

abc.net.au/news/2014-12-30/airasia-qz8501-debris-spotted-is-from-plane-official/5993438

So there supposedly was a steep climb. Why do you think an emergency call was not able to be made? Everything happened too fast? I hope the weather will clear up so they can finish their search for the plane and the bodies. What a sad way for the families to start off the new year. And the ones who perished never got the chance to see the new year.

 

[Bob_Crowley]

So there supposedly was a steep climb. Why do you think an emergency call was not able to be made? Everything happened too fast? I hope the weather will clear up so they can finish their search for the plane and the bodies. What a sad way for the families to start off the new year. And the ones who perished never got the chance to see the new year.

One of the possibilities that was “demonstrated” on TV was that the pilot had climbed too high, stalled and then found himself plunging through a monsoonal storm.

Apparently he had requested permission to go to 38,000 feet, almost certainly to go over the top of a monsoonal storm. The ceiling limit for his aircraft was 40,000 feet, and even there the situation is a bit dicey due to thin air. Complicate this with air currents from the storm, and anything could have happened.

Once they were in a stall, and plunging through a storm, he and his co-pilot would have been too busy trying to control the plane to get onto the radio.

But … we’ll have to wait for the official investigation before we find out what actually happened.

I just happen to think he made a mistake trying to go over the storm instead of around it.

 

[7_Sorrows]

One of the possibilities that was “demonstrated” on TV was that the pilot had climbed too high, stalled and then found himself plunging through a monsoonal storm.

Apparently he had requested permission to go to 38,000 feet, almost certainly to go over the top of a monsoonal storm. The ceiling limit for his aircraft was 40,000 feet, and even there the situation is a bit dicey due to thin air. Complicate this with air currents from the storm, and anything could have happened.

Once they were in a stall, and plunging through a storm, he and his co-pilot would have been too busy trying to control the plane to get onto the radio.

But … we’ll have to wait for the official investigation before we find out what actually happened.

I just happen to think he made a mistake trying to go over the storm instead of around it.

I think they should just have a button to press for a mayday call that would go to alert someone. Like you said if they are so busy they don’t have time to call on the radio.
I thought I read they had requested to go left around the storm.
I know they are wanting to see what the black boxes reveal.

 

[Vitalina]

Eternal rest grant unto them, O Lord, and let perpetual light shine upon them. May they rest in peace. Amen.
Praying for their families as well.

 

[7_Sorrows]

The story gets stranger and stranger. Now I just read Air Asia had permission to fly that route only certain days of the week. Sunday was not one of them. Don’t they have to submit flight plans? How could they have been given permission to take off?
I thought it strange they found an intact emergency door as though someone had opened it. I believe they have also found the body of the plane.

 

[Bob_Crowley]

The story gets stranger and stranger. Now I just read Air Asia had permission to fly that route only certain days of the week. Sunday was not one of them. Don’t they have to submit flight plans? How could they have been given permission to take off?
I thought it strange they found an intact emergency door as though someone had opened it. I believe they have also found the body of the plane.

They’ve located four large segments, but conditions are making it difficult for divers, even though it’s only about 30 metres deep.

The airline had a previously unblemished safety record over about a 13 year period under current management, so I think it would be a pity if they were prevented from flying other routes. They are also supposed to be the world’s “lowest unit cost of US$0.023 per available seat kilometres (ASK) and a passenger break-even load factor of 52%.” (Wikipedia)

It would appear the CEO Tony Fernandez is an astute businessman, going by the record.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AirAsia

 

[7_Sorrows]

They’ve located four large segments, but conditions are making it difficult for divers, even though it’s only about 30 metres deep.

The airline had a previously unblemished safety record over about a 13 year period under current management, so I think it would be a pity if they were prevented from flying other routes. They are also supposed to be the world’s “lowest unit cost of US$0.023 per available seat kilometres (ASK) and a passenger break-even load factor of 52%.” (Wikipedia)

It would appear the CEO Tony Fernandez is an astute businessman, going by the record.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AirAsia

Do you think the pilot was trying to make a sea landing?

 

[Bob_Crowley]

Do you think the pilot was trying to make a sea landing?

Personally I think he tried to fly over the storm instead of around it, stalled and found himself plummeting towards the sea through a storm.

What he might have tried to do then is anybody’s guess.

But that’s only my opinion. They’re trying to locate the black box, and hopefully when they do, they’ll get the answers then.

Some experts claim the aircraft rose as fast as a fighter jet due to a violent updraft, then went straight down into the sea.

thetruth24.com/article/74510/experts-reveal-terrifying-last-moments-of-airasia-jet-as-it-rose-like-a-fighter-jet-then-plummeted-into-the-sea

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But Mr Soejatman says it was the drop speed that was even more incredible, with the plane falling at 11,000ft a minute with bursts of up to 24,000ft a minute.

The pilot and co-pilot wouldn’t have had much time to do anything.

 

[7_Sorrows]

Personally I think he tried to fly over the storm instead of around it, stalled and found himself plummeting towards the sea through a storm.

What he might have tried to do then is anybody’s guess.

But that’s only my opinion. They’re trying to locate the black box, and hopefully when they do, they’ll get the answers then.

Some experts claim the aircraft rose as fast as a fighter jet due to a violent updraft, then went straight down into the sea.

thetruth24.com/article/74510/experts-reveal-terrifying-last-moments-of-airasia-jet-as-it-rose-like-a-fighter-jet-then-plummeted-into-the-sea

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The pilot and co-pilot wouldn’t have had much time to do anything.

If the plane was falling so fast it seems like it would have broken up on the way down. What a terrifying flight!

 

[Path_Finder]

**More Than a Quarter of AirAsia Victims Attended Same Church **

charismanews.com/world/46654-more-than-a-quarter-of-airasia-victims-attended-same-church

More than a quarter of the victims on AirAsia flight 8501 were members of the same pentecostal church in Indonesia, the AP reports.

Mawar Sharon Church, in Surabaya, Indonesia, hosted a prayer service earlier this week as to comfort relatives and remember those who were lost in the crash.

The Rev. Philip Mantofa offered faith as comfort to one man: “If God has called your child, allow me to say this: Your child is not to be pitied,” CBS reports the man saying. “Your child is already in God’s arms. One day, your family will be reunited in heaven.”