"All In The Family" remake

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I also think the distal cause of his being written off the show had to do with some kind of disagreement behind the scenes between the actor and the showrunner about the direction of the show or something like that, but I don’t recall the details. I only learned about it years later (of course being a kid I didn’t think about or wasn’t curious about why a character would be written off a show; I just accepted it as part of the narrative arc of the show).
The chief issue was Jimmie Walker. Walker’s JJ had become the breakout character, and the writers, doing what writers do, began emphasizing Walker’s character more and more, and putting a lot of the social commentary on the backburner. Amos felt the writers and Lear were compromising the very premise of the show, in no small part because the character of JJ was in some ways coming dangerously close to the stereotype of black characters in previous eras.
 
The chief issue was Jimmie Walker. Walker’s JJ had become the breakout character, and the writers, doing what writers do, began emphasizing Walker’s character more and more, and putting a lot of the social commentary on the backburner. Amos felt the writers and Lear were compromising the very premise of the show, in no small part because the character of JJ was in some ways coming dangerously close to the stereotype of black characters in previous eras.
John Amos comes across as very principled here (whereas if I were an actor in his position after years of toil and struggle I’d be happy just to be getting a regular paycheck and wouldn’t want to jeopardize that).
 
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The original All in the Family should never be viewed as history or as a documentary. Those who wish to paint all ‘baby boomers’ with a broad brush are showing their prejudice. It is also an attempt to paint all baby boomers as ‘under that fake exterior is a bad man.’ Yeah, they were all bad and liked to roll in the mud.

Please don’t try to sell that here.
I wasn’t attempting to paint with a broad brush. But we all know that liberal baby boomers basically sanctified themselves as the bearers of all that was good. Of course Michael is painted with a broad brush; it’s a 24 minute per episode comedy. But Lear showed he was just as willing to poke at his fellow liberals as he was at the Bunker-esque conservative. That’s the point. While it still leaned heavily liberal, is there something wrong with episodes where Archie’s casual racism is demonstrated to be wrong? By the same token there was at least one episode I recall where Michael and Gloria effectively put Edith down for her choice to be a stay at home mother, and Edith, I think, would do many advocates of traditional families proud by standing her ground.
 
To me, the whole reason for the show is the exchanges between Meathead and Archie where the former tries to show the latter the error of his bigoted ways, only to have it explode in his face. Because Archie is such a simple-minded man, his prejudices seem very rational and justified to himself and he can’t be talked out of them. If you take that part out, it just becomes a kitchen sink drama set in Queens which personally, I always found too dreary to watch.
 
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While it still leaned heavily liberal, is there something wrong with episodes where Archie’s casual racism is demonstrated to be wrong?
Not at all. The show made some very good points. But liberal points of view, in the main, were presented as dogma, and Archie was the loveable heretic.
 
A small number of radicals and dissidents decided to wreck neighborhoods and people’s lives as replacements for God and the Church (any church). They sold corruption which they called freedom.

Edith eventually ended up doing the ‘right’ wrong thing and got a divorce. Archie got a bar. Morally bankrupt.
 
The family was supposed to move to Mississippi to join him where he had moved for a job. At their going away party they received a telegram that he had died in a car accident.
 
Edith eventually ended up doing the ‘right’ wrong thing and got a divorce. Archie got a bar. Morally bankrupt.
Archie and Edith divorced? I don’t think so. She died in her sleep. Wasn’t that Mike and Gloria?

And what is morally bankrupt about owning and running a bar?
 
All in the Family was morally bankrupt.
Specifically how? Was it morally bankrupt for Archie to stand up to the KKK? Was it morally bankrupt to mock his casual racism to Lionel Jefferson? Was it morally bankrupt for Edith to tell Archie, when her lesbian cousin died, that it was for God to judge, and not Archie?
 
As I recall, Edith’s death was segue from All In The Family to Archie’s Place. Jean Stapleton was pretty much finished with the part, so it was seen as a chance to retool the show.
 
Taken as a whole, it was a liberal crusade with some good moments to make it more palatable to non-liberals. It was a fake portrait of a part of America. Norman Lear put words in peoples’ mouths. His words.
 
His character was killed in a car crash. The family learned of it during their going away party.
 
Taken as a whole, it was a liberal crusade with some good moments to make it more palatable to non-liberals. It was a fake portrait of a part of America. Norman Lear put words in peoples’ mouths. His words.
By Lear’s own account, Bunker was largely based on his own father. Now, if you want to say Lear is a liar, then so be it, but even during the 1972 election, Nixon’s campaign team had accepted that there was an Archie Bunker demographic. He was a caricature, it was a half hour sitcom after all.

But you seem to think any public display of any view that doesn’t square up with your views is immoral. That’s a peculiar kind of prejudice, as if you have all the answers, and if people don’t see things your way, they’re morally bankrupt.
 
Here we go. Making assumptions should be avoided. I know all about Mr. Lear and the organization he started. Nixon? OK. That there were prejudiced and bigoted people was something I knew about as a boy. I should mention a 1950s era publication called TIDE. It was for advertising professionals. Reading a back issue, I saw that they had identified all the radio stations that catered to black audiences by call sign and other information. Green was the only color that mattered.

I could say the same thing about people seeing things your way. And I really do appreciate your comments.
 
I would strongly disagree. It was propaganda, nothing more. With some good points lightly sprinkled in so that people who were unlike the Archie Bunker character would more readily accept it.
 
The Evans started off on “Maude.” Florida worked for Maude as a housekeeper, and James was a garbage collector with a union job. His name on Maude was Henry. I believe they even had a house in Yonkers, NY.

“Good Times” took the characters and moved them to Chicago. They were based loosely on Mike Evans’ (Lionel from the Jeffersons) life. He was a creator/ writer of the show.

Jimmy Walker was a standup comic. John Amos didn’t like him being the center of the show. Norman Lear then bumped him off.
 
I would strongly disagree. It was propaganda, nothing more.
Disagree away, as is your right. But I think that an unbiased look at the show overall will show that both of the primary antagonists (Archie and Mike) were more similar in their closed-mindedness and intransigence than they were different in their overall outlook. If that is propaganda, maybe we need more of it.
 
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