"All In The Family" remake

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The last episode of All in the Family has Edith falling ill because she was working so hard to help Archie at the bar. Edith developed phlebitis , but didn’t tell Archie.

I always assumed her character died and the show shifted to Archie’s Place. Edith actually was on Archie’s place. Her character died in between seasons of that show.
 
@(name removed by moderator) a bit like how Ricky Gervais’s David Brent is more devoid of redeeming characteristics than Steve Carell’s Michael Scott?
 
As I recall, Archie’s backstory was that his father was abusive, that he had to quit school young to go to work, and so some of his behavior and views really comes out of the limited perspective of his upbringing and his adult years. And yes, he certainly was capable of change. The whole point was that he wasn’t a bad man at all, and sometimes he wasn’t even wrong. In the aforementioned episode where Michael punches a guy in the subway that was threatening him, Michael is tortured by it, and yet to Archie’s eyes (and really, I think to the audience’s), pacifism has its place, but sometimes you have to stand your ground. It’s an episode where while we certainly feel for Mike, we think he’s making too big an issue of it, and that punching a guy who is physically threatening you can not be construed as a wicked act.
 
@(name removed by moderator) a bit like how Ricky Gervais’s David Brent is more devoid of redeeming characteristics than Steve Carell’s Michael Scott?
I’d say pretty much the same thing. I think the Brits are a bit more willing to see portrayals of irredeemable characters. Imagine an American version of Fawlty Towers. Basil Fawlty would have this secret tender side that comes out every once in a while, whereas I much prefer Cleese’s Basil, a miserable and emotionally stunted man that hates everyone.
 
I like the U.K. version better. But the U.S. version isn’t terrible. They decided to make Steve Carrell’s character cuddly after a while.
 
And always grasping for respectability while everyone around him fails to get on board and ultimately foils his plans.

Maybe the Brits are more comfortable ‘rooting’ for anti-heroes, or rooting for them to fail? Maybe they enjoy luxuriating in the self-loathing that comes from repeated failure?
 
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The unedited 46-year-old script was interesting.

The part I found most telling was Mike “Meathead” Stivic’s assertion that

“The crisis is over – Black people are coming on economically, socially, politically”

By the looks of today’s headlines, the “crisis” (if it be right to call it that) is hardly over. And not peep from the live studio audience.
 
I loved Rod Serling’s Twilight Zone.
He was a great writer and a terrific teller.
And, I have been a life-long Star Trek fan. Gene Roddenberry, another television genius!
 
I watched TV purely for entertainment. Now, I watch a lot less TV.
 
I met with Gene Roddenberry. Sadly, his attempts at TV after Star Trek were disappointing, as if he forgot how to do good TV.
 
No, not at all. Good storytelling is good storytelling. It should not be thrown away. He told me about his two upcoming projects, I thanked him and I was disappointed when they came out. At the time it seemed like someone else made them.
 
I like this development.
When I was a kid, the highest pinnacle of beauty was white/blond/blue eyed. Yeah, there were women who were the “pretty black girl” or the “pretty Chinese” girl, but the implication was that they were pretty despite their race, as opposed to just being a pretty girl.
I agree.

I think the most beautiful women in the world are the extremely black-skinned women with beautifully-shaped heads! I love the Nigerian model who is “Top Model” (which basically means she earns more money than any other model).
 
Didn’t John Amos leave the show eventually? I can’t exactly remember how they wrote him out. Anyone?
He was killed in a car accident. I remember there was a big party–I think that the family had just gotten word that they were moving out of the projects, or some other happy event, and everyone was celebrating and they were waiting for him to come home, and Florida was reading congratulation telegrams (so maybe it was the Thelma got into a prestigious college? Or JJ got accepted into an art school?? Or Michael won some kind of prize for activism??–wish I could remember, but I still think it was that they got out of the projects).

And then Florida opened a telegram that said “We regret to inform you that your husband was killed in a traffic accident.” Very strange–usually the cops inform people in person, but maybe back then, this was the way it was done??

I remember being stunned, because I really liked this show, too. I happened to love the artwork that “JJ” painted (I know that in reality, some other artist painted the works, but they were beautiful!). And I loved the family values.

So I was pretty upset when James died.
 
The family was supposed to move to Mississippi to join him where he had moved for a job. At their going away party they received a telegram that he had died in a car accident.
That’s it! Thanks! So sad.

The new shows without James were pretty bad, IMO.

One of the things I liked about Good Times was that Thelma was highly intelligent and a hard worker. I think this portrayal of a teenaged African American girl helped me, as a teenager, to see African American classmates as equals and not harbor any kind of prejudice against them.

I know that sounds awful, but back when I was a teenager, our attitudes towards race were often taught to us by our parents. My parents were kind of on the fence, but even if they talked bad in private, in public they did the right thing. My dad was the first man in our city to rent apartments on the EAST side to black families, and he received threatening phone calls and death threats for doing it. But he laughed it off and stuck to his guns.

And my mother had grown up poor white trash in the South and lived with black people throughout her childhood and teenaged years, so she had no prejudice at all. In fact, she told us that the first time she went back down South to visit her family, she went downtown (very small town!) with one of her black friends, and she wanted to go into a restaurant, and the friend told her, “I can’t go in there!” and my mother said it was the first time she realized that discrimination against black people was real–she had gotten used to seeing black people treated better up North (the factories needed workers BAD and they didn’t care what color people were, as long as they were willing to work and get a paycheck!).

So I was lucky to grow up with fairly good teaching from my parents about prejudice. But others aren’t so blessed.
 
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