All or nothing?

[St_Francis]

No, it’s an 8-celled zygote. It has no brain, certainly no brain activity, no circulation, and no circulatory system. It may become human, but it’s not one yet.

When a woman is pregnant with an 8-celled zygote, she may not yet even suspect she is pregnant, as that point comes very shortly after conception.

Your definition of “humanity” is totally arbitrary. Unless one can find a more reasonable standard for defining humanity, such as alive and with human DNA, *anyone *could end up being considered not human, which has caused a lot of problems over the centuries, such as chattel slavery in the US and the killing of millions in WW2 Germany concentration camps.

Then again, my sperm may become human,

Yes, your sperm may become human, if it unites with a woman’s egg. However, once united, the sperm and the egg form one full human being, not an entity which *may *become human. There is *no *instance of a woman being pregnant with anything other than a human baby.

but I have no problem spilling it.

We know that. We didn’t need to know that, but we do.

 

[TheRealJuliane]

We, as a Christian Nation, have allowed secular forces to take over. Through our slumber of the past several decades, we have lost control of our government. It will take decades of our keeping ourselves aware as to what is happening before we can turn this society around.

The secular forces have been much more active than the Church, much to our detriment. Yes, we not only have to keep ourselves aware, but try to keep our country from going over a cliff while trying to repair the damage that humanism has wrought.

 

[portarica]

The secular forces have been much more active than the Church, much to our detriment. Yes, we not only have to keep ourselves aware, but try to keep our country from going over a cliff while trying to repair the damage that humanism has wrought.

The Catholic Church in the US has been and is enabled to flourish by the “secular” forces in the US. The success and scope of acceptance of the of the church’s message is pretty much directly related to how good a job the church is doing of credibly spreading the message.

Peace

 

[truthscout]

IMO, the public school has no right or reason to teach children (who are without income or jobs) how to use artificial contraception.

They do it however, to advance a “secular intellectual elite” agenda. They know better than these childrens’ parents, on how sexuality should be taught to the greater public.

This thought will gain tremendous significance the day that pregnancy is caused by a job or an income.

truthscout

 

[yosupman]

The whole point to this thread is, can we be concerned about other issues when abortion and other moral issues take precendence? Absolutely. the US bishops have commented on this ad naseum. There is no competition between being prolife, and also advocating for other issues.

But remember this… you can’t vote for someone if they are pro-choice, but pro education, when the prolife person is a regan conservative. Vote for the regan conservative, then call his office and write letters. Its easier to convert the regan conservative, than convert a liberal pro-choice nut.

 

[Brendan]

No, it’s an 8-celled zygote. It has no brain, certainly no brain activity, no circulation, and no circulatory system. It may become human, but it’s not one yet.

Really?? Any geneticist will tell you that it is human. Are you saying that the science is wrong?

 

[JimG]

Zygotes are one cell, not 8 cell. And a zygote, genetically and biologically, and embryologically, is the start of a new individual of the human species, genetically distinct from mom and dad. Every human individual has a beginning, and this is it. The teleology of the zygote is progression to adulthood.