Amazon Synod idols cast in River Tiber today

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I’m appalled that an act of theft and vandalism–if not outright sacrilege-- of Church property is not condemned for what it is but celebrated as an act of heroism by fellow Catholics.
 
JimR-OCDS said:
So you don’t salute the American Flag and stand for the National Anthem ?
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No, I don’t. I’m not American nor live in the U.S. I do however appropriately respect the national symbols in the places I’ve lived in. Everyone knows it’s not a religious symbol, has no religious/doctrinal content, and is therefore irrelevant as a comparison to icons/images of deities.
 
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So making a statue of pachamama and bowing down to it in a religious context is perfectly fine? They are just honoring life and fertility? That sounds pretty naive to me.
 
LumineDiei said:
Removing an offensive item is one thing, but would you film yourself doing it and then make sure the video made it promptly to social media platforms? People keep referring to St Boniface…something tells me he wouldn’t be blasting himself all over social media to garner likes and clicks.
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If its just for likes, you’re right; but if it’s to counter a public scandal in a public way, I’m not sure.
 
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but would you film yourself doing it and then make sure the video made it promptly to social media platforms?
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No. That just simply isn’t my style. But I applaud what they did! I would have taken a sledgehammer to them to make sure that garbage was ruined!
 
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I don’t know what they were actually doing, I wasn’t there, were you?

I’m not going to throw stones at Pope Francis and other Catholic clergy who were there and participated in various symbolic ceremonies, like planting a tree.

I’m confident enough in Pope Francis, that he wasn’t worshiping a pagan god.
 
This action is a direct statement to Church leadership. Nothing more and that is obvious.
 
Apples and oranges. The Catholic Church isn’t a museum for the display of pagan artifacts. The Catholic Church is a place of worship. Maybe if Catholics stormed a Buddhist temple and destroyed everything you might have an argument.
 
If someone placed a statue of our lady in a mosque and some muslims found it and were offended or they caught other muslims venerating it and were offended, I’d have exactly zero complaints if it ended up being dumped in an ocean: I’d only have beef with the person who put it in the mosque. If Isis or members of any religion keep to policing their own centers of worship, they’re free to throw out whatever they want from these places without any complaints from me.
 
The point is, it’s what ISIS believes and feels justified in doing

It’s the same in what the person who took the statue and threw it in the river. He feels justified in doing it.

Perhaps taking a sword to the Amazonians would be accepted as well, after all, they’re pagan worshipers, right ? 😃
 
But it’s not a statue to a false god.

There is only one true God, and a statue symbolising fertility and life, is not to God, but what God gives us.
 
Folks, no need to skirt the issue. This action was a direct action/statement to current Church leadership.
 
There is no comparison between what the man in the video did and what isis did. The man in the video destroyed what was blasphemous within his own church. Isis is a tyrannical organization that was destroying everyone everything around them. There is absolutely no comparison between them.
 
JimR-OCDS said:
There is only one true God, and a statue symbolising fertility and life, is not to God, but what God gives us.
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Why was it being venerated if it was not a diety? Pagan dieties are archetypes, like platonic ideals, so this distinction you’re making is not a real one.
 
Literally the most ancient, long-running deity: the earth-mother/fertility goddess: all over the place.
 
It’s the mindset of being intolerant against those who don’t believe the same as others.

ISIS uses violence against people, and there will be Christians who are on the edge, who’ll steal statues, but heaven forbid, kill the idolaters.
 
JimR-OCDS said:
It’s the mindset of being intolerant against those who don’t believe the same as others.
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Tolerance does not mean we now get to plant a crucifix in a synagogue or else the Jews are intolerant. Give us a break, fellaz.
 
Nor should we get to steal the property of others because WE believe it’s idolory
 
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