Amazon Synod idols cast in River Tiber today

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aroosi said:
He may need it. Disposing of somebody else property throwing it illegally in a river is unlawful and he will probably need to pay a high fine for it.
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If legality and lawfulness was a barrier to morality, neither Jesus nor Saints would have done much of anything.
 
I dont thinks its a negative thing. I think that those idols needed to go.
 
Oh, was that a bishop stealing those items out of that church? The church rector? I did not see that!!

I think St. Boniface had the authority to cut down a tree. I know that the people who stole the items that they so proudly threw into the Tiber did not have the authority to take them. I have yet to see evidence that they even asked to have them removed. Could someone please supply evidence of the efforts they made to appeal to have the items removed?

These attempts to try to hide these rash acts by self-identifying with St. Benedict are a bit too self-congratulatory. These people are flattering themselves.
 
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Aquinas11 said:
Well, I hope he did do it. If he did, I’ll triple my monthly donation to his Patreon.
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I’m honestly appalled by this.

You know how many people sought to reform the church of its errors and were ignored? How many kings who according to the faith were right to correct the pope that no one remembers?

But some guy with a podcast willing to break the law that quotes “Deus Vult” gets you money and attention?

I’m getting hostile because you have twisted my words, dodged my questions and refuse to make any leaps of logic that aren’t laid out for you in black and white.

To me, you sound like the stereotypical construction worker that does nothing until the boss arrives.
You are immovable which is a very bad place to be intellectually.

Reread the thread, answer the points put to you, then come back.
If you can’t answer a discussion with the thought your mind can be changed, just don’t.
Till then you are not contributing.
 
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I should have used more clarifying words i meant if he were to do that he would throw them off the bridge that leads up to the castel san angelo
 
Sean said:
I should have used more clarifying words i meant if he were to do that he would throw them off the bridge that leads up to the castel san angelo
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Sean said:
I dont thinks its a negative thing. I think that those idols needed to go.
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Ok my mistake, I thought you were implying it was negative since it seemed he was hiding something and something he would do, etc.
 
Pachamama is worshiped as a benevolent deitiy in the area of Tawantinsuyu. Tawantinsuyu is the name of the former Inca Empire, and the region stretches through the Andean mountains into many present-day countries.

Doesn’t matter if it’s Andean or Incan, pagan fertility goddess statues don’t belong in a Catholic Church.
 
Deo Gratias.

Imagine if a similar act was done by Catholics during the time of Pope John Paul II at Assisi, where the statue of Buddha was placed over St. Peter Church’s tabernacle.
 
Okay, so glad someone finally had the sense to get dem idols and chuck em in the river.
 
Saying that it is not the place to display a gift with pagan significance, fine! Objecting to the decision–great!! Saying that the way to lodge the objection to poor judgment is to steal the items and to publicly make a show of throwing them into the river instead of having the courage to go directly to those in authority and ask to have the items removed to another place immediately is something else again.

This act does not bear the marks of holy zeal. There was a humble and saintly way to deal with this. It was not chosen. Yes, this was an insult to the guests of the Holy See. (And it is not likely that they were the ones who insisted on the placement of those statues, either. Be angry with the Catholic leaders who made this decision, not the pagans who gave the gift with good intent.)
 
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PetraG said:
instead of having the courage to go directly to those in authority and ask to have the items removed to another place immediately is something else again.
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I believe 1 or 2 Catholics have already written to Vatican and publicly protested outside of Synod to no effect.

Hence Plan B.
 
PetraG said:
Those who think they will convert souls by theft and vandalism were sadly misguided.
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Was Christ guilty of theft and vandalism when he overturned the tables of the moneychangers in the temple?

Getting rid of things that don’t belong in our sacred places is neither theft nor vandalism. It is just plain good sense.
 
There is a difference between the pantheon and this they got rid of all the idols and consecrated it to Mary the queen of martyrs.
 
rom said:
Was Christ guilty of theft and vandalism when he overturned the tables of the moneychangers in the temple?
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Let’s see, did he politely “ask to have the items removed”? If not, it was not an act of “holy zeal”
 
Asked and answered: St. Boniface and St. Benedict had the authority to do what they did. Our Lord was asked what gave him the authority to do what he did, and he had an answer. These thieves didn’t.
Sean said:
There is a difference between the pantheon and this they got rid of all the idols and consecrated it to Mary the queen of martyrs.
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You didn’t know that the Parthenon is a temple to Athena? Why is it still standing? What’s next?
 
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