Amazon's Alexa says Jesus Christ is a "fictional character."

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The video is not fake. They showed the unedited version live with the live metrics.

It’s possible that some Alexa machines have this feature or they’ve adjusted the programming.

The “Not Gay” shirt actually says “Not Gay Jared” and is a reference to one of the hosts on that video, Jared Monroe, and is a running joke that is not anti-homosexual.

So if that is your argument for not believing this, that would be quite pathetic and indicate that one does not understand fundamentally what is going on.
ErraticFaith said:
I don’t find this surprising at all.

The Muslims grip globally on trade and resources makes things like this a certainty.
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It’s been said that the reason why the far left likes Islam so much is because they think Muslims hate America like many of them do.

That is certainly untrue, but what is true is that the left constantly panders to and I think is largely afraid of Islam and projects this fear onto the Western mainstream right.

The problem is the left thinks it can make nice with radical Islam or even those who wish to turn the entire place into a 7th Century religious utopia, but they think this about “minority” group.
 
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I can possibly accept that the video is not fake. I can say unequivocally that none of the 4 Echo dot’s (Alexa devices) we have here respond that way. Why they dont, I don’t know, but they dont.

So, no, that is not my argument for not believing the video. I do not subscribe to the philosophy of “if the facts don’t match the theory, they must be disposed of”.
 
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These guys are edgy which prevents me from posting a lot of their videos on here, but the one thing they don’t do is run up fake conspiracy theories.

I would say the video is true, but there may be different versions of the machine or perhaps it was reprogrammed.
 
SuperLuigi said:
So if that is your argument for not believing this, that would be quite pathetic
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Let’s not throw out the “p” word, Luigi. 😝 Here, have some cake: 🍰

Honestly, I didn’t watch either video all the way through. Too long and I don’t care enough about it. 😜 Having someone post a video about how one of their own videos is not a hoax doesn’t strike me as the silver bullet of proof. Why couldn’t they doctor that video as well?

But, as I said above, even if we grant that the video is authentic (and I don’t discount that possibility), I can think of several more plausible explanations than that Amazon is deliberately taking covert potshots at Christianity and/or is training Alexa to be an anti-Christian liberal communist.
SuperLuigi said:
These guys are edgy which prevents me from posting a lot of their videos on here,
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The fact that they are “edgy” enough that many of their videos could not be posted here reinforces my opinion that it’s not a YouTube channel I’m going to return to in the future. In terms of over-the-top conservative commentators, Matt Walsh is about as extreme as I can handle. 🤣
 
Just say “alexa repeat” followed by what you want it to say. Someone could say it into the microphone on the Bluetooth remote in another room if you want to have real time interactions.
 
Joe_5859 said:
Honestly, I didn’t watch either video all the way through. Too long and I don’t care enough about it. 😜 Having someone post a video about how one of their own videos is not a hoax doesn’t strike me as the silver bullet of proof. Why couldn’t they doctor that video as well?
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:roll_eyes:

While it is mathematically possible, I know these two well enough to know that isn’t what they do and they don’t have the time for it. The precision requirement would be like splitting hairs twice.

If you or anyone else really doubt this based on what they’ve posted, I don’t see how you could defend the moon-landing.
Joe_5859 said:
But, as I said above, even if we grant that the video is authentic (and I don’t discount that possibility), I can think of several more plausible explanations than that Amazon is deliberately taking covert potshots at Christianity and/or is training Alexa to be an anti-Christian liberal communist.
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I’m not sure it’s that simple to just sweep all of Amazon under the rug here. I’d be surprised if they specifically said from the top down “make sure that Islam looks good, communism is blunted and Jesus looks fake”.
Joe_5859 said:
The fact that they are “edgy” enough that many of their videos could not be posted here reinforces my opinion that it’s not a YouTube channel I’m going to return to in the future. In terms of over-the-top conservative commentators, Matt Walsh is about as extreme as I can handle. 🤣
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If you think Matt Walsh is extreme, you’ve got problems. I also take it you don’t watch late night or cable, because they certainly are far worse that what Walsh says and in many cases than Louder with Crowder.

I’d hate to think you’d have such inconsistent intellectual standards…
 
I doubt the person or team who programmed this particular device even knew that fact, since those who have these kinds of agendas often have no idea about the agenda itself.
 
Which seems more likely - Amazon would risk alienating a huge number of potential customers and bring loads of unfavorable publicity on itself or that a couple of unknown Internet guys would rig an electronic device in order to generate a lot of page views and publicity for themselves?

Also, does nobody remember the Proctor and Gamble “satanic logo” scare of the 90’s? One if the benefits of getting old is that you recognize when something old comes around again.
 
Amazon’s “Alexa” is a fictional character and a recorded voice. It has no brain.
 
It’s not a conspiracy theory, it’s how project management in the tech industry tends to operate.

And tell me you and all the Western liberals on this site wouldn’t be fuming mad and talking about how offended your Muslims “friends” in London would be if this thing called Mohammed a fictional character and proclaimed Jesus Lord of the Universe.
 
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TechieGuy said:
Which seems more likely - Amazon would risk alienating a huge number of potential customers and bring loads of unfavorable publicity on itself or that a couple of unknown Internet guys would rig an electronic device in order to generate a lot of page views and publicity for themselves?
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:roll_eyes::roll_eyes:

First of all, Silicon Valley has been targeting basically anyone who is anti-SJW already on twitter and youtube with censorship.

Secondly, one name: James Damore

Third, yes, quite frankly, this is something Amazon would pull off if not beta test.
 
I’m with you. The device is be design made so that anyone and everyone can write their own scripts for it.
 
I only resort to doing those scripts if I can find a cool way to annoy the heck out of my sister. She’s smart, so it takes a lot of effort most of the time.

All 4 of our devices (two we’ve kept the Alexa name, one is Echo, one is Computer) all respond exactly the same, and unlike the video. That is likely to be the download from the internet. Whether the source originally said something else? Unknown and essentially unknowable.
 
That really doesn’t address my point which is what does Amazon stand to gain versus what it stands to lose as compared to what these two blokes have to gain.

Also if you can write scripts to force the machine to give that answer, then the video doesn’t prove anything about what Amazon may or may not have done
 
What, exactly, do you suspect?

Ah, yes. The “moral panic” card you are always talking about on here. Because Silicon Valley is sooo honest what with all of their censorship of anyone to the left of Bernie or the UK Liberals.

Both you and @TechieGuy don’t seem to understand: A lot of folks in Silicon Valley are out of touch with their customer base. In fact, a lot of Fortune 500 folks are. They are willing to take it on the chin.

Frankly, a lot of businesses have some pretty terrible business models. But Silicon Valley including Amazon don’t have much competition, so they can afford the hit.

If there is something wrong with the video, I am all ears. The whole point to having a discussion is to get this all out there.

But don’t sit here and say it’s a bad customer contract. Even that’s arguable since atheists are defending Christianity more feverently even than the bishops or the Vatican, and I don’t think a lot of Christians care if Jesus is knocked because society has conditioned them for that.
 
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Proctor and Gamble and the “man in the moon”? But do you recall Mr. Ed and the Beatles getting the same treatment? The Beatles even did some intentional back masking on one of their albums to provoke the reactionaries.

Getting old and remembering these things… I guess I can add Alexa to the list. Provocateurs.
 
Define “corrected.”

Many of the voice assistants, Alexa included, pull information from public sources such as Wikipedia. Manipulating the content on Wikipedia will manifest in the voice assistant giving a reply reflecting the edits. This was exploited when Burger King did that ad that would make people’s voice assistants talk about the BK Whooper.

 
SuperLuigi said:
And tell me you and all the Western liberals on this site wouldn’t be fuming mad and talking about how offended your Muslims “friends” in London would be if this thing called Mohammed a fictional character and proclaimed Jesus Lord of the Universe.
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That’s funny.

If you’ll permit me to act as spokesman for all the Western liberals on this site, I’ll say that our reaction to the unlikely scenario you describe would be to say that it’s extremely unlikely that Alexa is designed to deliver such a statement, and if it did, it was probably manipulated in some way by someone to do it.

Which is pretty much what I said above in this thread about this supposed declaration that Jesus Christ is a fictional character.
 
Alexa doesn’t have content. Alexa is software (and a hardware device) that allows the user to interact by means of voice recognition with a number of digital sources of information, and also to control various pieces of hardware, like lighting and heating/air conditioning systems.

Alexa itself has no content.
 
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