America, Catholic Magazine, Calls For Repeal Of Second Amendment In Controversial Editorial

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The article mentions tyranny as “a legitimate 18th-century concern but an increasingly remote, fanciful possibility in the contemporary United States”.

I do not buy that.
 
Fr Thomas Reese resigned as editor of America magazine after repeated complaints from then Cardinal Ratzinger about the magazine’s treatment of several issues. According to Fr de Vera those were
Christ as the unique savior; same-sex marriage; stem-cell research; and the reception of Communion by Catholic politicians who support legal abortion
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This is just an op/ed column and the author is entitiled to his opinion, which this is.
I disagree and that’s my opinion.👍
 
SurprizdbyLewis said:
The article mentions tyranny as “a legitimate 18th-century concern but an increasingly remote, fanciful possibility in the contemporary United States”.

I do not buy that.
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It appears Father Matt Malone does not follow US or International current events too closely.
He’s entitled to his opinion but he better not imply he speaks for this Catholic patriot.
 
So it sounds like America, Catholic Magazine, is neither Catholic nor American… 😉
 
I think it is good to bring these issues up for debate in a Catholic context. For too long, firearms have been an unquestionable article of faith in this country, seemingly up there with the Nicene creed.

It is good to call everything into question, if only to be sure of the position one holds.

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Arizona_Mike said:
So it sounds like America, Catholic Magazine, is neither Catholic nor American… 😉
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Sounds a lot like The National Catholic Reporter, which all of us here take very, very seriously. :rolleyes:…Actually, I’ve seen more than a few on here defend them rigorously
 
GEddie said:
I think it is good to bring these issues up for debate in a Catholic context. For too long, firearms have been an unquestionable article of faith in this country, seemingly up there with the Nicene creed.

It is good to call everything into question, if only to be sure of the position one holds.

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That’s fine as long as you apply that debate to everything protected in the consitutition the same way - right to vote, right to free speech, 5th amendment rights, etc.

Singling out one amendment for debate shows a bias instead of a general intent of periodic discussion.
 
Frank_Drebin said:
That’s fine as long as you apply that debate to everything protected in the consitutition the same way - right to vote, right to free speech, 5th amendment rights, etc.

Singling out one amendment for debate shows a bias instead of a general intent of periodic discussion.
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As far as I am concerned, they are welcome to call all of those into question. It can only do good in waking uP the readership’s minds.

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America magazine has proven itself again and again to very progressive and skeptical of Church teaching! It shouldn’t be treated as a credible catholic source!

I do not support the positions NRA, but do believe in the 2nd Amendment. An overthrow an tyrannical american government (aka rebellion) would be quite difficult to reconcile with the Just war theory without a very grave reason. I myself have doubts about the Revolutionary War being a truly just and nessesary war. But lets not get into that.

I do support the second amendment, but Historically the Church has never established civilian ownership of firearms as a right. That seems to be an american protestant invention. We do however, have the right of self defense.
 
If a man tells me that I do not have the right to take the necessary steps to protect my wife from harm or to defend my home then I will not hear another word he has to say.

When seconds matter, the police are minutes away. If firearms were taken away from the American people then every rape and murder would be on the souls of those who took them. Molon labe.
 
Firearms can be used prudently and within Catholic doctrine in the defense of innocent lives, our own and others.

In Milwaukee, a young retired Marine with a concealed carry permit did just that the other day. He saw a woman being beaten to death in the street, he got out, and used his handgun to stop the aggressor. He didn’t have to shoot the assailant to end the threat but would have been within moral teaching to do so.

fox6now.com/2013/03/12/marine-with-concealed-carry-permit-stops-man-from-beating-woman/

Had that young woman been your daughter, or your wife, or your mother, you would be very glad that young man had the right under the 2nd Amendment to possess that weapon, and the sense of charity and moral fortitude to intervene.

St. Gabriel Possenti did much the same thing, when he used a handgun to stop a young woman from being raped by a mob.
 
Arizona_Mike said:
Firearms can be used prudently and within Catholic doctrine in the defense of innocent lives, our own and others.

In Milwaukee, a young retired Marine with a concealed carry permit did just that the other day. He saw a woman being beaten to death in the street, he got out, and used his handgun to stop the aggressor. He didn’t have to shoot the assailant to end the threat but would have been within moral teaching to do so.

fox6now.com/2013/03/12/marine-with-concealed-carry-permit-stops-man-from-beating-woman/

Had that young woman been your daughter, or your wife, or your mother, you would be very glad that young man had the right under the 2nd Amendment to possess that weapon, and the sense of charity and moral fortitude to intervene.

St. Gabriel Possenti did much the same thing, when he used a handgun to stop a young woman from being raped by a mob.
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Amen!

I saw that story earlier. I suppose it’s somewhat redundant to call someone a “good Marine”, but that’s a good Marine. OORAH!
 
Arizona_Mike said:
St. Gabriel Possenti did much the same thing, when he used a handgun to stop a young woman from being raped by a mob.
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I had not heard of St. Gabriel Possenti. Thanks for the info. I looked up more information on him and he is a very interesting saint. One thing that stood out to me was his first name was Francesco. It might not mean anything, but maybe it’s not just a coincidence. Our new Pope may share some characteristics with St. Possenti.
 
It is kind of a ridiculous story from a ridiculous news blog. Such a repeal simply is not politically feasible in the next few generations.
 
First off, I am not in the gun culture, nor am I worried about tyranny. Rather, the possibility of tyranny bothers me less than the possibility of dying in a cloud of bullets sent up by people shooting at imagined tyrants.

I still say that rights should not be abridged unless there is a specific and crucial good to be achieved by the abridgement. Citizens should not be treated like children by their own government.

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