American catholicism and support for Israel?

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InJesusItrust said:
If I answered the truth as to why Israel exists despite the Jews being divorced by God I will be accused of antisemitism again. That is a good question that has a politically incorrect answer. This requires knowing history.

Even some Orthodox Jews are anti Zionist because it was established for political reasons. God did not regather them to Israel.
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I think there is plenty of biblical support to counter your claim. And God has divorced nobody. :eek:
 
Shamati said:
America & Israel together feel like the great liberators of people. liberating brown peoples with “wrong religion” from the pain of being alive, as evidenced by the 1 Million Iraqi human lives lost in the Iraqi war.
For every Israeli life goes 33 palestinian lives.

I pray for the quick and complete collapse of the US & EU empire.
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The Marxism and Satanically inverted morals that typify the pro-terrorist ideologues who plague the Holy Land are raging in full force in your post.

If you really understood how unholy Kant and Hegel’s views were you’d give up all that garbage.
 
chosen_people said:
We have the inevitable force of God and the eternal covenant with the Jewish people

youtube.com/watch?v=ydwxy9yqhzM

We have a country with the greatest moral, legal and historical right of existence

We have a country with a population of one tenth of one per cent of the world’s population which contributes so massively and disproportionately for the benefit of all mankind in the fields of science and technology and medicine and agriculture and green technology

We have a country with the greatest economic growth of all the western developed economies in the world, a country with a mix of private and socialized medicine that other countries can only dream of, a country with the second highest male life expectancy in the world, a country with the highest cancer survival rate in the world, a country with per capita rates of scientific publications, of patents, of doctors and scientists, of start ups that other countries can only envy.

And against this little tiny country, which is roughly the size of the State of New Jersey, which sits on about one per cent of the land of the Middle East, we have this disparate group whose single unifying factor is their maniacal hatred of the Jews and the Jewish State.
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I’m with ya. Some here may still be living the Inquisition. Very sad. They have forgotten how things are finally being mended between Catholics and the People that gave us the Savior.
 
InJesusItrust said:
If I answered the truth as to why Israel exists despite the Jews being divorced by God I will be accused of antisemitism again. That is a good question that has a politically incorrect answer. This requires knowing history.
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In other words, you think that the Jews are more powerful than G-d Himself. because as the G-d of history, either it is or it isn’t His will. If it is, then all of the promises throughout the Bible are taking place as they were plainly written, and if it isn’t, then the only explanation is that the Jews are more powerful than He is.
Even some Orthodox Jews are anti Zionist because it was established for political reasons. God did not regather them to Israel.
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And yet their numbers grow smaller and smaller by the year. Even they are recognizing Ezekiel 36-37 as now.
 
The Europeans gave them the land out of pity.

By that logic we could falsely argue that God desired the Holocaust. That is obviously false.
 
InJesusItrust said:
The Europeans gave them the land out of pity.

By that logic we could falsely argue that God desired the Holocaust. That is obviously false.
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I wish someone would answer when through history there was a nation called Palestine. Not a piece of land…but a nation. 🤷
 
Okay, they sent Jews to Palatine because they wanted no more conflict or repeat of the Holocaust.
 
Shamati said:
thank you all its been interesting to observe the polar opposite opinion present in americanism regarding the war criminal rogue state Israel.

America & Israel together feel like the great liberators of people. liberating brown peoples with “wrong religion” from the pain of being alive, as evidenced by the 1 Million Iraqi human lives lost in the Iraqi war.
For every Israeli life goes 33 palestinian lives.

“There are no palestinians” they say, but there are definitely native peoples being ethnically cleansed for the benefit of a european racially supremacist ideology.

Ive seen the newsbroadcasts in the US and its ridiculous how one-sided the reporting are.
When people are brainwashed they off course get angry when someone mess up their reality bubble.

I wouldnt think american television would ever show a documentary like “tears of Gaza” as has been done all over Europe

I’ve seen all things who get to America being modified into being compatible with the Empire’s idolatrous ideology of materialism and narcisism.

You are living in the Great Babylon, Christianity as seen in America exists nowhere else on earth & this probably holds true for catholicism too. We know the lands of the Great Babylonian empire has been fertile ground for all kinds of sinful fruits in the church.

http://www.jpost.com/HttpHandlers/ShowImage.ashx?ID=193993
BBC survey measures public opinion on 22 countries, places Israel in company of North Korea, ahead of only Iran, Pakistan.

I pray for the quick and complete collapse of the US & EU empire.
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Actually…you are in great need of prayers.
 
ephesians4 said:
Your vituperative accusations of murderousness and racial supremacism are unwarranted.

You accuse others of oversimplifying matters and then pour forth this frankly staggering moral reduction that does you no credit, and can be of no use to you in critically appraising anything, let alone an enormously complex situation far away and full of murder and sadness. Your tirade is (ironically considering who it is aimed at) redolent of foreigners pouring petrol on the flames of the troubles in Northern Ireland on the basis of things like “common wisdom” in their country, or some documentary they have seen which people who live in NI would consider ridiculous. A phenomenon, by the way, which largely only contributed to the place being more hellish and unpleasant for ordinary people. 😦

As for your chart, it is a running joke among the largely BBC-loving middle class in the UK that the beeb regularly creates or picks out “statistics”, and even picks phrases like “general concern” and “widespread disapproval” out of the air in its news coverage that tell 90% of the country they are the last lunatic fringe on any given topic, you know. 😉

Auntie’s entirely neutral social engineering is viewed with cynicism (formerly affectionate cynicism, although it’s more rampant than it used to be) - and I think like many British things, foreigners fail to pick up on the undertones/overtones. That 16% for the UK is… seriously hilarious - and since the BBC agenda now involves supporting gay marriage, supporting islamism, interfering in foreign conflicts and constitutional matters etc., it naturally follows that the hilarity becomes global.

Anyway, even ignoring that, I can’t help feeling a little less bile and a little more thoughtfulness is called for.
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👍 is all that has to be said.
 
InJesusItrust said:
The Europeans gave them the land out of pity.
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G-d gave us our land out of His infite mercy- as He promised:

Ezekiel 37

**12 Therefore prophesy, and say unto them: Thus saith the Lord GOD: Behold, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, O My people; and I will bring you into the land of Israel.

13 And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, and caused you to come up out of your graves, O My people.

14 And I will put My spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I will place you in your own land; and ye shall know that I the LORD have spoken, and performed it, saith the LORD.’**
By that logic we could falsely argue that God desired the Holocaust. That is obviously false.
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G-d gives man free will. Some use it for good and some for evil.
 
wxornot said:
I wish someone would answer when through history there was a nation called Palestine. Not a piece of land…but a nation. 🤷
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The irony is that it was ONLY the Jews who were refered to as “Palestinians” 100 years ago.

The Arabs here refered to themselves as “Arabs” or “southern Syrians”.
 
YKohen said:
G-d gave us our land out of His infite mercy- as He promised:

Ezekiel 37

**12 Therefore prophesy, and say unto them: Thus saith the Lord GOD: Behold, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, O My people; and I will bring you into the land of Israel.

13 And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, and caused you to come up out of your graves, O My people.

14 And I will put My spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I will place you in your own land; and ye shall know that I the LORD have spoken, and performed it, saith the LORD.’**

G-d gives man free will. Some use it for good and some for evil.
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As a devout Catholic who is tired of PC amongst many when it comes to Palestinians…all I can is that I concur with your statements.

Oh…wait a minute…didn’t you guys just in an unprovoked manner lob rockets into Gaza??? 😉
 
YKohen said:
The irony is that it was ONLY the Jews who were refered to as “Palestinians” 100 years ago.

The Arabs here refered to themselves as “Arabs” or “southern Syrians”.
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I do understand that. 😃
 
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