American Girl -"I can" campaign promotes Roe

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smartblkchick:
It probably hasn’t had an effect because myself and several people I know personally are supporting American Girl Doll on this and ordered products BECAUSE of this organized boycott. I bought my cousin the Addy doll for Christmas. And, I emailed them and let them know why I was ordering the doll! I am even thinking about ordering one doll every six months or so to have on hand for my daughters when I have (or adopt) them.

Others I know are ordering dolls for their daughters, granddaughters, and nieces. So, while you guys have been successful in organizing, know that you have inspired a counter protest to mute the effectiveness of your boycott.

Have a nice day! 😃
36% of the Black Population has been killed by abortion.

See this thread starting with post# 58

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=77906&highlight=black+babies+aborted
 
Smartblkchick,

Which 2 of the following Black Leaders in the United States Have Consistently **Spoken Out Against Abortion Killing 36% of the Black Population in the U.S.??

A. Rev Jesse Jackson

B. Rev. Al Sharpton

C. Dr. Alan Keyes

D. Charlie Rangel

E. Louis Farrakhan

F. Jesse Lee Peterson

The Shocking Answer will be given at a later date!!

According to the U.S. Census bureau, there were 36 million blacks in the United States in 2002. If 13 million black children had not been killed by abortion, the black community would now number 49 million – it would be 36 percent larger. Abortion has killed over one-third of the black community in the last 32 years.
 
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smartblkchick:
It probably hasn’t had an effect because myself and several people I know personally are supporting American Girl Doll on this and ordered products BECAUSE of this organized boycott. I bought my cousin the Addy doll for Christmas. And, I emailed them and let them know why I was ordering the doll! I am even thinking about ordering one doll every six months or so to have on hand for my daughters when I have (or adopt) them.

Others I know are ordering dolls for their daughters, granddaughters, and nieces. So, while you guys have been successful in organizing, know that you have inspired a counter protest to mute the effectiveness of your boycott.

Have a nice day! 😃
I’m confused. Why do you disagree with this boycott, so much so that you would deliberately counter the effort? Really, I’d like to know!

You play the race card way to much, smarty. People with this attitude foster a new kind of racism that is twofold. By putting a racial twist on every issue where there needn’t be one, it draws undue attention to a trait that is highly irrelevant to a person’s worth. In other words, it creates racism where there was previously none. This, in turn, results in heightened sensitivity and absurd politically correct talk that breeds discomfort and even spite in people who truly strive to eliminate racism.

For example, there is a sign in a mall that reads, “Eliminate ALL discrimination.” The lower portion says, “That Puerto Rican guy is really level-headed,” with Puerto Rican crossed out. Substitute large-nosed or red-headed in there, and no one would care! The point is that the color of our skin or our ethnicity can often be a characteristic that sets us apart from others. It is lunacy to think that eliminating such distinguishing characteristics from our vocabulary is really the way to eliminate racism.

You have a nice day as well!
 
vluvski, please scroll to post #256…“Let’s not get too off topic here…from what I’ve seen of Smartblkchick’s posts, she seems to like to “stir things up”.”

While you have a point to make with Smartblkchick, it should be for another thread instead of this one. Please keep on topic.
 
my bad… the point was really to ask what her problem with the boycott was, which may or may not be appropriate for another thread. Then I got carried away on a rant :rolleyes:
 
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vluvski:
my bad… the point was really to ask what her problem with the boycott was, which may or may not be appropriate for another thread. Then I got carried away on a rant :rolleyes:
no worries 😉 we all need to blow off steam sometimes (but I think that may be the other poster’s agenda)
 
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vluvski:
I’m confused. Why do you disagree with this boycott, so much so that you would deliberately counter the effort? Really, I’d like to know!

You play the race card way to much, smarty. People with this attitude foster a new kind of racism that is twofold. By putting a racial twist on every issue where there needn’t be one, it draws undue attention to a trait that is highly irrelevant to a person’s worth. In other words, it creates racism where there was previously none. This, in turn, results in heightened sensitivity and absurd politically correct talk that breeds discomfort and even spite in people who truly strive to eliminate racism.

For example, there is a sign in a mall that reads, “Eliminate ALL discrimination.” The lower portion says, “That Puerto Rican guy is really level-headed,” with Puerto Rican crossed out. Substitute large-nosed or red-headed in there, and no one would care! The point is that the color of our skin or our ethnicity can often be a characteristic that sets us apart from others. It is lunacy to think that eliminating such distinguishing characteristics from our vocabulary is really the way to eliminate racism.

You have a nice day as well!
Ok… I have to respond to this. Where on this thread did I play the race card? The only race card that was played was a pathetic attempt to goad me into agreeing with the anti-choice position by bringing up race issues that are only tangentially related to abortion. This was done, of course, as an attempt to use race to further a cause that is not specifically related to race issues. People who bring up the number of black fetuses aborted—as opposed to the number of fetuses aborted—are the ones who are playing the race card!

And yes, I do disagree with the boycott so much that I would deliberately try to counter the effort. I want women to continue to have the option to terminate an unwanted pregnancy. I think that this is an issue that is best left between a woman and her doctor.
 
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smartblkchick:
Ok… I have to respond to this. Where on this thread did I play the race card? The only race card that was played was a pathetic attempt to goad me into agreeing with the anti-choice position by bringing up race issues that are only tangentially related to abortion. This was done, of course, as an attempt to use race to further a cause that is not specifically related to race issues. People who bring up the number of black fetuses aborted—as opposed to the number of fetuses aborted—are the ones who are playing the race card!

And yes, I do disagree with the boycott so much that I would deliberately try to counter the effort. I want women to continue to have the option to terminate an unwanted pregnancy. I think that this is an issue that is best left between a woman and her doctor.
You are thoroughly entitled to your opinion, however, this is not the thread to discuss the issues in the first paragraph. Please take that elsewhere.

I’m sorry to hear that you “disagree the boycott so much that you would deliberately try to counter the effort”. That is very sad. What we are disagreeing with, first and foremost (at least for me), is an organization teaching pre-teens and teens that abortion is an option.

Your final sentence
I think that this is an issue that is best left between a woman and her doctor.
has absolutely nothing to do with this issue. We are not discussing WOMEN…again, its PRE-TEENS and TEENS–children. Children, that too often these days, grow up too fast, due in part to organizations such as Girls, Inc.

Unfortunately, in this country, a woman can go out and have that abortion. Until that day comes that abortion becomes illegal, you can be assured that we will continue to voice our objections.

Now, please let’s get back on topic of this thread.
 
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auppie:
You are thoroughly entitled to your opinion, however, this is not the thread to discuss the issues in the first paragraph. Please take that elsewhere.
You cut off the post that statement was in a response to. The original writer (a) accused me of “playing the race card” and (b) asked why I would participate in a counter-boycott. My response was an answer to the original post. So, if you want it taken elsewhere, you should take that up with the original poster!
 
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smartblkchick:
Ok… I have to respond to this. Where on this thread did I play the race card? The only race card that was played was a pathetic attempt to goad me into agreeing with the anti-choice position by bringing up race issues that are only tangentially related to abortion. This was done, of course, as an attempt to use race to further a cause that is not specifically related to race issues. People who bring up the number of black fetuses aborted—as opposed to the number of fetuses aborted—are the ones who are playing the race card!

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Disagree with the boycott if you want, I am glad you experssed your opinion here, it is good for us to know.

I am sincere with my concern regarding the high number of African American babies aborted. I was not using it as “grasping at straws” measure to play the race card. I honestly believe it and it motivates me to promote justice for the unborn. My motivator in promoting life is the firm belief that the fetus, as a human being has a inalienable right to respect and life afforded to all human beings. It is a civil rights issue, the fetus, regardless of race or physical or mental handicap, is a human being with dignity, and worthy of life. ( I am also for death penalty reform, but that is for another thread. )The higher percentage of abortions in black women is of concern to me. What can we do to solve the social obstacles for all women so that they don’t feel that their only resort is to kill their unborn baby? To me that is a result of desparation.

Abortion rights are often viewed as a bandaid to fix a problem, but abortion has not repaired any social problems.

*** How can a woman actually have the right to make a choice about abortion, if she is not given the truth about it? Women are lied to. Information is withheld. Proaboriton activists fight against this free flow of information because they know it would hurt their cause. Abortion clinics refuse to give truthful information because they stand to lose a profit.

*** How can we expect our culture to value human life and respect the homeless man on the street, the senile lady in the rest home or the newborn in the trashcan if we don’t form a deep respect and value for all human life, at every stage? Our culture puts a pricetag on human beings depending on how much they contribute financially to our society. The unborn baby, although full of potential, liviing and growning is killed (in an extremely painfull way BTW) in most cases simply because having the child would get in the way of an adult’s plans or lifestyle. A person can come to the conclusion that human life supercedes, or is the foundation for all other civil rights without being a religious person.

*** From a Christian perspective, if one were to place:
Donald Trump, Oprah Winfrey, a tattered, smelly, mentally ill homeless man, a newborn baby, an unborn baby, a neglected child, A senile elderly woman who can’t care for herself, whoever is reading this post and myself,
in a lineup… our society would begin to rank them in worthiness according to *our *cultural standards. As Christians we must ask ourselves how God wants us to view human beings, and to him they are all equal in dignity and worthy of life, or they wouldn’t be.

**** One of my favorite Pro-life groups is Feminists For Life, because they put their primary focus on young women and how to fight against all the obstacles a woman faces. Abortion is a symptom that we need to fix the problem, not kill unborn babies as a quick fix to hide, ignore or perpetuate the problems. Abortion is a horrible tragedy on the page of human history and I want to do what I can to turn that page. My core motivator is a love for humanity and a sense of justice. Scripture asks “Who will speak up for the little ones?” I will speak up for the little ones. I just did, and I will continue.

Jesus said “Whatever you do to the least of my people, that you do unto me.”

Until we can learn to value and respect all human life, all other “rights” are a facade. The plastic siding looks good, but a few good gusts of wind at the right places and it blows right off the house.

I have always been pro life, but when I looked at the breakdown of abortions along racial and economic lines, It inspired a whole new level of motivation in me. No woman should be made to feel that she or her child are not valued or worthy of life.

This topic has wandered a bit, but I wanted to respond to the accusation that I was using racism to artificially promote the prolife movement. I wanted to explain that if was not the case. This topic of where abortion percentages breakdown on racial lines, deserves it’s own thread and perhaps someone would like to start one.
 
I have been greatly inspired by Alveda King, niece of Martin Luther King, I saw her on an interview on EWTN and she spoke to my heart. Of course, her Uncle has always been a prominent source of inspiration in my life. I think that this is a good place fto start for anyone who wants to delve into this issue further. I would suggest putting the thread with the other pro-life issues. I started this thread as a way to inform fellow parents and grand parents of what American Girl is doing with their money. As far as I am aware, the boycott had it’s roots at this Catholic Answers thread. It was the members here contacting as many pro-family pro-life organizations as possible to get the word out and several of them began uniting to call for a boycott. So smartyblack chick can blame this thread if she wants. We were the whistleblowers. If you do google it, check the dates in comparison to the date on the start of this thread.

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Niece of Martin Luther King Is Pro-Life Advocate
BOSTON All people, regardless of faith, need to protect the rights of the unborn, Alveda King, a pro-life advocate, told a crowd of more than 300 at Faneuil Hall at Boston University.

King, the niece of slain civil rights activist Martin Luther King, Jr., said protecting the rights of the unborn is part of her uncle’s dream for freedom. Her own father, civil rights leader A. D. King, was assassinated in 1969–a year after his brother.

“What would Martin Luther King say if he saw the skulls of babies at the bottom of abortion pits?” King asked. “If Martin Luther King’s dream is to live, our babies must live.”

King called for all assembled to take a leadership position on the issue of abortion, regardless of faith. Despite her call for action, King is opposed to violent and forceful measures, including the bombing of abortion facilities. “Anyone who values life will not take it for any reason,” King said. “We are not in the business of taking life.”

King addressed the issue of partial birth abortions, which she considers one of the most heinous crimes against the unborn.

“We have been fueled by the fires of women’s rights,” she said. “What about the rights of the baby who is artificially breached? We can’t sit idly by and allow legal murder. With today’s technology, there is no excuse for taking the life of an unborn.”

According to King, the fight to protect an unborn baby is not new. She pointed to the Bible for examples, which included the lives of Moses and Jesus, who were threatened before they were even born. King advocates adoption as a solution to unwanted pregnancies, and believes ministering to the “moms and dads” before they assume the role of parents is a positive step toward stronger families. “We’re sending mixed signals to our children by allowing promiscuous sex,” she said. King feels that by choosing life, people will realize her uncle’s dream. “How can the dream survive if we destroy the children?” King asked. “Life was very precious to my uncle and life today is precious. This is the season we celebrate the contributions of Martin Luther King and how he lived a life of love and gratitude. This is the day to choose life.” EWTN feature story, January 19, 2000 **
 
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smartblkchick:
Ok… I have to respond to this. Where on this thread did I play the race card? The only race card that was played was a pathetic attempt to goad me into agreeing with the anti-choice position by bringing up race issues that are only tangentially related to abortion. And yes, I do disagree with the boycott so much that I would deliberately try to counter the effort. I want women to continue to have the option to terminate an unwanted pregnancy. I think that this is an issue that is best left between a woman and her doctor.
Anti-choice? You support abortion. Why are you so reluctant to admit that?
 
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smartblkchick:
And yes, I do disagree with the boycott so much that I would deliberately try to counter the effort. I want women to continue to have the option to terminate an unwanted pregnancy. I think that this is an issue that is best left between a woman and her doctor.
Terminate an unwanted pregnancy?? You mean abort their child, dont you? You are just full of euphanisms. I find that a lot with people who attempt to defend the indefensible.
 
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smartblkchick:
It probably hasn’t had an effect because myself and several people I know personally are supporting American Girl Doll on this and ordered products BECAUSE of this organized boycott. I bought my cousin the Addy doll for Christmas. And, I emailed them and let them know why I was ordering the doll! I am even thinking about ordering one doll every six months or so to have on hand for my daughters when I have (or adopt) them.
You would adopt a child? Might flnd it hard to find one as 1.2 million potential adoptees are killed every year.
 
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estesbob:
Anti-choice? You support abortion. Why are you so reluctant to admit that?
I think I have stated on more than one occaision that I am pro-choice. Being pro-choice, by definition, means that I am pro-allowing a woman to choose abortion if that is what she wants. If you are against abortion, don’t have an abortion. But don’t tell me and all the other women out there what decisions we can or cannot make with regard to our fertility.
 
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estesbob:
You would adopt a child? Might flnd it hard to find one as 1.2 million potential adoptees are killed every year.
I already answered this statement, but I will answer it again just for you: If, when I am ready to adopt, there are no unwanted, abused, and neglected children out there for me to adopt, I see that as a GOOD THING!
 
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smartblkchick:
I already answered this statement, but I will answer it again just for you: If, when I am ready to adopt, there are no unwanted, abused, and neglected children out there for me to adopt, I see that as a GOOD THING!
A GOOD THNG… even if the reason there are no unwanted, abused & neglected children is because they were all MURDERED AND THROWN IN THE GARBAGE?

Am I correct in assuming you aren’t Catholic?

My apologies to Peace-bwu… I know you’ve asked us to stay on topic… I will not respond to this poster again.
 
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smartblkchick:
I think I have stated on more than one occaision that I am pro-choice. Being pro-choice, by definition, means that I am pro-allowing a woman to choose abortion if that is what she wants. If you are against abortion, don’t have an abortion. But don’t tell me and all the other women out there what decisions we can or cannot make with regard to our fertility.
In 1836 a Congressman from South Carolina stod in the floor in the US House and declared that if you oppose slavery then dont buy slave. Amazing, isnt it, how lame arguments are recycled over and over again, isnt t?

I see you have still more euphanisms to throw at as. Now slicing, diceing and flushing a unborn child down the sink beomes “a decision about fertility”. Why is is so hard for you to admit the obvious-you are abortion. Why are you s reluctant t use the term “ABORTION”
 
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