Since the Bible (Holy Scripture) is a Catholic document, this is much like another country taking our consitution and arriving at completely different set of laws based on that constitution and then claiming that the framers of that constitution didn’t understand what it really meant.
no…it comes from false prophets
When I was LDS, we were taught that LDS doctrine, unlike Christian doctrine, was not derived from an interpretation of scripture, but was the result of direct revelation to the prophet Joseph Smith and his successors. Has Mormonism changed that much in 24 years? Is Mormonism now merely the result of fallible men pouring over the scriptures and giving their personal interpretations thereof?
Ohh how I wish you could show me where the bible articulates your doctrine of the Trinity, of a triune God who is three co-equal Persons of One Nature.Since the Bible (Holy Scripture) is a Catholic document, this is much like another country taking our consitution and arriving at completely different set of laws based on that constitution and then claiming that the framers of that constitution didn’t understand what it really meant.
Amazing.
Any organization or individual that borrows from, or uses, standard Christian thought or terminology to describe or discuss an idea similar to but different from the original meaning of that Christian thought, or understanding, is in heresy.
Sorry, Todd, but you err. Christ originated the “Trinity doctrine” ( Doxology: “baptize them in the Name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit” ). The Apostles knew of and understood the Trinity and used the term in the greetings and/or salutations of their letters. Also The early Chrch Fathers, long before 325 AD, used the “Trinity Doctrine”. The NT is full of references and description of the Trinity.
From a Catholic perspective, there are two ways of deviating from Christianity:Any organization or individual that borrows from, or uses, standard Christian thought or terminology to describe or discuss an idea similar to but different from the original meaning of that Christian thought, or understanding, is in heresy.
The Church of Latter-day Saints ( Mormon ) uses Christian terminology and ideas borrowed from Christianity which meanings are entirely different from that of Christianity. It is therefore heretical regardless of it source.
Would you call Gnostics, with their myriad of theories and theologies borrowed from Christianity, as Christians and non-heretical?
PAX DOMINI
Shalom Aleichem
Mormonism however has strayed so far that they are not considered to be separated brethren. They are not of the same vine, they are something “other”.Any organization or individual that borrows from, or uses, standard Christian thought or terminology to describe or discuss an idea similar to but different from the original meaning of that Christian thought, or understanding, is in heresy.
The Church of Latter-day Saints ( Mormon ) uses Christian terminology and ideas borrowed from Christianity which meanings are entirely different from that of Christianity. It is therefore heretical regardless of it source.
Would you call Gnostics, with their myriad of theories and theologies borrowed from Christianity, as Christians and non-heretical?
PAX DOMINI
Shalom Aleichem
Javl,Sorry, Todd, but you err. Christ originated the “Trinity doctrine” ( Doxology: “baptize them in the Name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit” ). The Apostles knew of and understood the Trinity and used the term in the greetings and/or salutations of their letters. Also The early Chrch Fathers, long before 325 AD, used the “Trinity Doctrine”. The NT is full of references and description of the Trinity.
It would be nice if you read and understood scripture, the early Church Fathers, and Catholic Church history before you embarrass yourself with such statements.
PAX DOMINI
Shalom Aleichem
Yes Rebecca,
Well, since you claim he’s a sinful man, I guess that’s up to you to find the reference.
once again, we must be a broken record with STM
lol…it would be easier if your church did not change doctrine everytime one of their doctrines was proven to be false or ridiculous…
Easy enough to remedy. But I wasn’t speaking of you personally. I was speaking about Mormonism, ie, the doctrines. Not of individuals, whom God judges, not me.
PAX DOMINI
Interesting thought; I was speaking from a Vatican quote on the LDS trinity doctrine. You have moved on to another topic here by introducing LDS terminology and ideas? One would have to take one by one to determine which has a Christian foundation leading to heresy, and those which do not have a Christian foundation are not heresy but another gospel from a foriegn source other than Jesus Christ and his Catholic church.
Sorry but LDS protestations that we are “not allowed to infer” ring a bit hollow considering all the "inferring done by LDS members on a recently closed thread.
Yes Rebecca,
Not so ToddAre you a baptised, confirmed confessed Catholic at anytime? If you were and you know these 2000 year old biblical apostolic teachings and reject them, then you define your self as a heretic.
If non of the above applies, then rest assured you are not a heretic, being an LDS only makes you a non believer in the revelations and teachings of Jesus Christ from the first century. You maybe what the Indians were to the gospel before the Church evangelized them.
Peace be with you