An Interesting News Article on Women's "ordination"

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An interesting read. The headline is misleading readers by saying that she has become an ordained Catholic priest. She is clearly not validly ordained - nor can she be as the Church has not the power to ordain women to the priesthood.

It is hard to see how this woman even has a theology degree! She rightly says that Jesus did not say “Take this all of you , and eat it, except for you because you’re divorced. Or you because you’re gay. Or you because you got your tubes tied. Or you because you want a child so badly that you’re willing to do in vitro,” However this shows a complete lack of understanding on Catholic teaching in general and on the Eucharist. If she had in fact been getting sound Catholic teaching she would also understand why the Church can never ordain women. I wonder what translation of the Bible she uses, as it is plain that Jesus did not ordain women even though he had plenty of female disciples…

In my view, this heresy should be made known to all, and it should be made clear that she is certainly not a Catholic - not to mention Catholic Priestess!! What is more, the parishioners attending where she and other heretical ‘priests’ will celebrate “mass” should be discouraged from doing so and should be educated in their error in supporting such an organisation - they must be directed back to the true Catholic Church. There is so much more to be said on this topic - what galls me really is how she, or others like her, can claim to be Catholics (or even Christians) and bend and ignore God’s word to suit themselves…I hope she recants and repents soon.
 
“Remember Selma,” Iaquinta said. “It wasn’t easy. It wasn’t bloodless, but it was necessary.”
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This woman’s rants should be offensive to all those who invested sweat, blood, and tears in the civil rights movement.
 
That group “RomanCatholicWomenpriests” is extremely arrogant and odd. “Me and my ego before God” seems to be their motto. A woman who was formerly a Catholic Christian from my diocese went through their simulated ordination charade.

Years before that, she worked her way out of the Church. She moved from one parish to the next (each more heterodox than the previous) until even the (then) ultra-progressive bishop had enough and quietly made sure she could not longer take part in any liturgical or catechetical ministries in the diocese. Even the most uber-liberal pastors quietly wanted nothing to do with her.

Her ego would not allow her to be obedient and she left the Church. There were 2-3 articles in the local newspaper about her. I wish our former bishop would have made the effort to respond. It’s wonderful that Archbishop Timothy Dolan did speak up. Good for him.
 
“Everybody knows about the cross. When picking up the cross, there’s a cost. And sometimes the cost is negative responses.”

And maybe sometimes that cost is not being able to do something that you want? Something that the Church does not allow?

If she truly wanted to address this issue, I feel she should have gone about it a different way; a way that would be more respected in the global Catholic community.

Namaste.

SFO
 
just reminds me that I have more people to pray for, so that their eyes may be opened and not be blinded by their own egos.
 
Going through the motions of a Catholic ordination with a female “ordinand” is the same as going through the Roman Canon of the Mass with Fritos and Coca-Cola as the species - nothing happens because there is invalid matter.

In the end, the “people-of-God-recognize-my-priesthood” argument can be used by all the antipopes out there, too. Simply claiming something doesn’t make it so.

There will always be these people…this is nothing new in the history of the Church. The difference now is that the media is there to sensationalize everything.

Pray for their souls…it’s never too late to repent.
 
Anyone else notice the lack of under-50 women being “ordained”? 👍
 
I’m over 50. And quite frankly, I don’t know why anyone, man or woman, would want to be a priest. (And I stand in awe of those who choose such service!) But then, as a woman, I’ve never felt any sort of “restriction” because Catholic priests, or any priests, are not women. Having said that, I give thanks to those faithful men who have given their lives to serve the rest of us.

Women seemed to go through some sort of phase years ago where they objected to being denied the right to do a variety of jobs. In the process, they obtained the right to do many jobs that they never did before, no matter how difficult/boring/etc. I’m not sure how many women actually DO those jobs after all this hullaballoo. But now many jobs are technically open to people that weren’t open to them before.

Being a priest is not a glamorous job. It is hard work and there may be few, if any, “days off”, depending on the situation. How and where you do your work is done is not up to you ~ and you get switched around with no say in how that works out. You live in very limited circumstances (it’s actually a VERY BIG DEAL that our local pastor has a dog!) And one of your jobs is to listen to confessions which has to be, from the point of view of the priest, a very compassionate and patient exercise, to say the least.

Unlike priests, women have a very different and unique function in the world, although many women may avoid and/or deny this function is important. Women GIVE BIRTH ~ so in a sense, they participate in some small human way, with God in giving life. Men (the husbands of such women) undeniably participate in these new human lives, but they don’t have the same role as women.

When someone asks me about being the same as a man, since no man can do what I can do, my question is, why would I want to give up THE MOST IMPORTANT ROLE I can ever have in the world. NO MAN, can do what I do ~ give birth to a new human soul ~ why would I want to give that up to be ANYTHING?
 
Our Archbishop of Portland (in Oregon) wrote a letter to our local Catholic newspaper this past week to clarify a similar “ordination” of a woman to the “Catholic Priesthood” in a local Zion Lutheran Church here in Oregon. The Archbishop asked us to pray for these people who by their actions are now excommunicated from the true Catholic Church. I feel so sad for them. Like Eve in the garden they have tasted the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil. Like Eve, they spread their rebellion to others. In the meantime, they have sold their birthright (like Esau) for some old stew. The hand of the devil is in this, for sure. I came of age in the 70’s and for a few years I was confused about the apparent inequality of roles for men and women in the Church. I thank God that I was brought back into the Church. I pray for these women and men who are closed to God’s grace. Lord, open their hearts to the Truth of Your Love.
 
In the original article, there was a link to their website. If you go and look at their “ordinands” for 2007, are we sure that they are actually “ordaining” women. My goodness, not only do these women want to be priests, they apparently want to be men.

romancatholicwomenpriests.org/ordinands.htm

In Christ,
Irenaeus
 
How sad.

Shamefully I must admit I had the thought - no wonder they’re closing down St. Francis Seminary.

Three cheers for Archbishop Dolan!
 
From the origional post:
Her Catholicism born out of Vatican II, Iaquinta felt that women should be able to celebrate the Eucharist just like men.
“At no time did Jesus ever say, ‘Take this, all of you, and eat it, except for you because you’re divorced. Or you because you’re gay. Or you because you got your tubes tied. Or you because you want a child so badly that you’re willing to do in vitro,’” Iaquinta said.
So she went online and found an organization that eventually made her an ordained priest two weeks ago.

and the words just keep going :mad:
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What makes me sadder then anything else is the fact that Vatican II was never fully and truly explained to the Catholic people. In many cases it has been used for the “clappy happy” “feel good” “everyone is ok” generation that existed at the time and is still in charge in many cases even now. But then this is my opinion.
 
KathleenElsie said:
From the origional post:

What makes me sadder then anything else is the fact that Vatican II was never fully and truly explained to the Catholic people. In many cases it has been used for the “clappy happy” “feel good” “everyone is ok” generation that existed at the time and is still in charge in many cases even now. But then this is my opinion.
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And implemented by a generation of evil Bishops.
 
As sad as the whole business is, it is beginning to take on the attributes of a farce comedy.

Someone, commenting on “Pope Pius XIII” (an interesting Google, btw) said he was far too frothy and lacking in substance to be considered an anti-pope. He was a pseudo-pope. The claim these heretics have to the priesthood is similarly risible.

Notice too. Toss out one Church teaching, in this case, concerning the attributes of the Sacrament of Holy Orders, and all kinds of others, related to family, marriage, and sexuality, follow it out the chute. Coincidence? Doubtful; very doubtful.

Blessings,

Gerry
 
irenaeus1 said:
In the original article, there was a link to their website. If you go and look at their “ordinands” for 2007, are we sure that they are actually “ordaining” women. My goodness, not only do these women want to be priests, they apparently want to be men.

romancatholicwomenpriests.org/ordinands.htm

In Christ,
Irenaeus
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Seriously. If you follow the link to the photos of the “Ordination Ceremony on the Danube” it looks like a lesbian holloween party cruise.

On the one hand this is sad, and angering, (mostly because of the coverage) on the other, it is so preposterous that it could hardly even be viewed as scandalous. No one could be led astray by this charade. Anyone who gravitates toward these, ummm… ladies, for pastoral care has clearly chosen their own path.
 
jschwehm said:
Hi All:

news.yahoo.com/s/wisn/20070827/lo_wisn/13979744 :mad:

Jeff S.
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Do Catholic women have a right to ordination?
By Vivian Roe
Posted: Aug. 24, 2007

It’s alarming when self-proclaimed experts in theology and Catholicism (many of whom aren’t even Catholic) insist that there is a right to ordination of women to the Catholic priesthood.

With the recent faux-ordination to the Catholic priesthood of Alice M. Iaquinta of West Bend, the periodic debate begins again.

I’m a 37-year-old practicing Catholic woman with 12 years of Catholic education under my waistband. I have been an active and involved parishioner as an adult.

I have never once felt even slightly discriminated against by the church for being a woman.

As a girl, I was comforted by the abundance of exemplary female role models and saints honored by Catholicism. I knew that I was valued by the church as a girl for the feminine virtues I possess.

I’ve always had a firm grasp of the sensibility of having specific roles within the church community. Not everyone is suited to be a choir member or lector. Not everyone is suited to be a parish administrator. Not everyone is suited to be a priest. It’s that final point that some Americans get hung up on.

And let’s remember, the Catholic Church isn’t secluded to America. We are a universal church, one in which there is no priest shortage or demand for women’s ordination in other parts of the world. To alter the worldwide church to suit the agenda of one portion of the whole isn’t prudent or wise.

Iaquinta could face excommunication, and she may be offended as a woman - but that doesn’t erase the fact that Jesus was a man.

For sacramental purposes, and particularly during the Eucharistic rite of Mass, the priest is not a “symbol” of Jesus but a literal representation of Jesus. Transubstantiation that turns bread and wine into the body and blood of Christ isn’t symbolic; it’s a solemn recreation of the Last Supper.

Even if Leonardo DaVinci believed Mary Magdalene was at the table with the apostles, there’s no ambiguity that a man was at the center performing the miracle.

Should men ride the donkey and hold the baby in nativity plays? After all, if we are to ignore that Jesus was a man, it’s only logical that we should also ignore that Mary, his mother, was a woman.

Men can’t give birth. A 4-foot-5-inch man will never be drafted to the NBA. A 95-pound woman won’t be a heavyweight boxing champion. I’ll never be a swimsuit model. Waa! It must be discrimination.

I think that much of the irritation some women feel about the church’s discerned and discriminating position of a male-only priesthood boils down to displaced feminism.

Rather than embrace women’s unique role within the church, some complain as though we’re roped off to one side while every man has full access to holiness. I hope they are aware that not every man who applies to a seminary is accepted.

Women are already equal to men in God’s eyes and in the Roman Catholic Church’s eyes. We need to understand that equality doesn’t mean sameness. In fact, it’s our differences and the variety of roles, talents and treasures that bring us to one table to share all we have.

The church has every prerogative and right to be discriminating when it comes to priestly ordination. If a woman chooses to ignore this, it is she who has excommunicated herself from the church.

Vivian Roe of St. Francis is a stay-at-home mom. Her e-mail address is roevivian@yahoo.com
 
Thanks for posting that Rich.

I can’t even begin to believe that that was posted in the Journal Sentinel! :bigyikes:
 
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