An interesting window into some young peope's perspective

[speters33w]

Here is paragraph 1625 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church:

1. The parties to a marriage covenant are a baptized man and woman, free to contract marriage, who freely express their consent; “to be free” means:

• not being under constraint;

• not impeded by any natural or ecclesiastical law.

My problem with the song is direct disregard for many of the principles and morals the Church holds. Here is paragraph 1632

1. So that the “I do” of the spouses may be a free and responsible act and so that the marriage covenant may have solid and lasting human and Christian foundations, preparation for marriage is of prime importance.

The example and teaching given by parents and families remain the special form of this preparation.

The role of pastors and of the Christian community as the “family of God” is indispensable for the transmission of the human and Christian values of marriage and family, 135 and much more so in our era when many young people experience broken homes which no longer sufficiently assure this initiation:

It is imperative to give suitable and timely instruction to young people, above all in the heart of their own families, about the dignity of married love, its role and its exercise, so that, having learned the value of chastity, they will be able at a suitable age to engage in honorable courtship and enter upon a marriage of their own

It’s actually really easy to look up stuff in the Catechism.

There are searchable catechisms here:

kofc.org/un/en/catechism/index.html#

and here:

usccb.org/beliefs-and-teachings/what-we-believe/catechism/catechism-of-the-catholic-church/epub/index.cfm

Just choose your flavor!

 

[Anglewannabe]

After reading what you quote above, I believe it is more of a responsibility for parents to teach their children Catholic morals as to what a good marriage is. It is not for them to dictate what the kids is to do.

For example, it is a parents responsibility to teach children to not have sex outside of marriage. If the parents did not teach their child that, they fell short of their responsibility.

If the parents did indeed teach their kid premarital sex is wrong yet the child after moving out and having a place of their own chooses to have sex, the parent can not stop them.

Does that make sense?

 

[speters33w]

So the question “May I ask for your daughters hand in marriage?” is moot. Just a formality and the answer doesn’t matter.I get it.

Very enlightening this thread has been.

 

[BlueEyedLady]

I do think that young people would be better off if they did consult their parents about a possible marriage. My cousins, who are Jehovah Witnesses, always had (name removed by moderator)ut from parents on both ends and where chaperoned. No premarital sex there, or babies born out of wed lock either.

I don’t meant to say marriages should be prearranged or anything like that. However, if I was a young girl today, (no so anymore) I would ask my father what he thought of a potential husband. Also, I would never go with someone without my family meeting them first. Just this simple rule could save a lot of young people a lot of trouble. Having to meet family can be just enough to ward off jerks. Not always, but it does help.

I am for a lot of old fashioned ways. But then I am old fashioned and old.

That’s not really practical for a lot of young people. A lot of people go away for college, and then often take a job far from their hometown. If I followed this rule in my early 20’s, I would have had to make an 8 hour road trip with a man before our first date. And now I live so far from my parents that a flight, or an 18 hour drive would be required.

My parents didn’t get to meet my husband until we had been together for a just shy of a year. It wasn’t on purpose, my parents just couldn’t afford to come visit and my husband and I never had the same few days avaible to go see them. They only met him once before we got engaged, but they were very supportive. They raised me to make good choices and use sound judgement in major life decisions. Besides, isn’t that what parents are supposed to do?

 

[speters33w]

My wife and I had some discussion about this thread, and she has convinced me that I am too stuck on the cultural “ask Dad for the hand” question. That is culture, not Catholic practice. That was a little humbling for me to realize.

Really, in the light of the Catechism paragraph I quoted above, It’s more appropriate for the father to ask some version of the old “What are your intentions, boy?” question. Then the families can assist the young (or old) to-be couple in the walk towards marriage.

Because the couple freely give themselves to each other.

 

[theCrow]

Whoa, whoa, wayyyy too much analyzing going for a fun, pop reggae song.

Well what about all of us who really like AC/DC’s “Highway To Hell?”

It’s just music! Enjoy it! Rock n roll!

 

[VeritasLuxMea]

Uhhhh is it just me or is this actually a very positive message compared to most pop music today??? It’s about the young man’s intention to marry a woman and start a family. That ought to be a common theme but these days…

 

[white_sheep]

My wife and I had some discussion about this thread, and she has convinced me that I am too stuck on the cultural “ask Dad for the hand” question. That is culture, not Catholic practice. That was a little humbling for me to realize.

Really, in the light of the Catechism paragraph I quoted above, It’s more appropriate for the father to ask some version of the old “What are your intentions, boy?” question. Then the families can assist the young (or old) to-be couple in the walk towards marriage.

Because the couple freely give themselves to each other.

She’s right. I mean what should I have done if my fiance who was in RCIA and I really wanted to get married and really thought it was the right thing to do and that God had brought us together and it was part of his plan for us, but her lukewarm Lutheran father whose life is driven by money more than anything else had said no? Just not marry her because he says so? What if he says it’s because I’m Catholic? Should I just move on and act like the previous 4 years of dating never happened? Frankly, I don’t have a lot of respect for most of her parents decisions, they’re normal people. We try to be good Catholics. There’s a world of difference there. I’m not about to start letting people of the world tell me how I should live my life, or who I should marry. We aren’t going to start using contraception because they think we should either.

Also, consider the disaster that usually erupts when daddy tells princess she can’t date ol’ so and so.