An open letter to Notre Dame's president to release abortion protestors

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Free the ND 88!

i love the “freedom of conscience for women.” line one of the mindless rabble posted in reply to the article.

So if my conscience tells me to murder someone because they are an inconvenience, then it is OK???

The lies, even if eloquently presented by those who condone murder, ie. “freedom of conscience, freedom of choice, freedom of privacy…” are still just lies.

It is truly sad that in the US, on a once “Catholic” University, the right to freedom of speech that protects the most innocent among us, the unborn and the elderly and frail, has been thrown in the trash, like an aborted baby!

Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, Ora Pro Nobis Peccatoribus, nunc et hora mortis nostrae!

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As a voting Roman Catholic, I applaud Norte Dame for reconizing the President of the United States Democratic principle and leadership. My Cardinal, gave his Archdiecies permission to vote for President Obama if we liked what he could do for America. The Roman Catholic Church is different from the American Catholic church in that we respect a persons views. You don’t have to agree with me to be a Catholic.
My Cardinal didn’t excommumicate me!!!
I think you have more important things to worry about than whether as a nation we fund abortions or stem-cell research.
WITHOUT FUNDING, ABORTIONS WILL STILL BE PREFORMED AND STEAM CELL RESEARCH WILL CONTINUE.
Where were you guys when George Bush;. Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton was president, they shared the same views as President Obama? Are you using Catholic Answers to influence voters for the Republican party?:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
President Jenkins didn’t arrest anyone, the police did, the police were trying to keep law and order and some Americans didn’t want to do the right things and were arrested, President Jenkins doesn’t want to interfere with the police doing their jobs.:)🙂
 
Does anyone expect jail time for the arrestees? Let the wheels of justice turn.

After all, they announced that they were going to ND to be arrested. Why now complain about it?
 
WITHOUT FUNDING, ABORTIONS WILL STILL BE PREFORMED AND STEAM CELL RESEARCH WILL CONTINUE.
Where were you guys when George Bush;. Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton was president, they shared the same views as President Obama?
George W Bush didn’t fund stem cell research, and I don’t think any of those others did either. I don’t think an of them voted for increased abortion funding either.

Furthermore, without funding, it will happen less. When we elect pro-life candidates there is a chance it could be banned.
Are you using Catholic Answers to influence voters for the Republican party?
For pro-life candidates regardless of party

usccb.org/faithfulcitizenship/FCStatement.pdf
Read this. Specifically page 34 (of 42). It saays that intrinsic evils can neve be supported, and abortion is an intrinsic evil.
The Roman Catholic Church is different from the American Catholic church
What is this American catholic church you’re talking about? The USCCB is a group of U.S. Roman Catholic bishops.
in that we respect a persons views.
Certain views are contrary to the church, contrary to the Lord, and contrary to human rights. Respecting people’s right to hold a view does not mean endorsing that view or even leaving it unchallenged.
You don’t have to agree with me to be a Catholic.
The catholic teaching is that abortion is an intrinsic evil. Intrinsic evils must always be opposed.

Ask yourself: Am I using letting politics define my faith or am I using my faith to guide my politics?
 
As a voting Roman Catholic, I applaud Norte Dame for reconizing the President of the United States Democratic principle and leadership. My Cardinal, gave his Archdiecies permission to vote for President Obama if we liked what he could do for America. The Roman Catholic Church is different from the American Catholic church in that we respect a persons views. You don’t have to agree with me to be a Catholic.
My Cardinal didn’t excommumicate me!!!
I think you have more important things to worry about than whether as a nation we fund abortions or stem-cell research.
WITHOUT FUNDING, ABORTIONS WILL STILL BE PREFORMED AND STEAM CELL RESEARCH WILL CONTINUE.
Where were you guys when George Bush;. Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton was president, they shared the same views as President Obama? Are you using Catholic Answers to influence voters for the Republican party?:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
President Jenkins didn’t arrest anyone, the police did, the police were trying to keep law and order and some Americans didn’t want to do the right things and were arrested, President Jenkins doesn’t want to interfere with the police doing their jobs.:)🙂
Excuse me but you sound like an “Americanized”, liberal Catholic. I am a Roman Catholic and I knew I could never vote for him because of his stance on life. I respect your right as an American to voice your opinion.
 
Also, I just purchased a Vatican flag to fly with my “stars and stripes”. I do not know if it is appropriate but I am going to put the Vatican flag at the top:shrug:…for I am a Catholic American.
 
Also, I just purchased a Vatican flag to fly with my “stars and stripes”. I do not know if it is appropriate but I am going to put the Vatican flag at the top:shrug:…for I am a Catholic American.
Actually, per flag etiquette, “When flown with the national banner of other countries, each flag must be displayed from a separate pole of the same height. Each flag should be the same size. They should be raised and lowered simultaneously. The flag of one nation may not be displayed above that of another nation.”
 
. . .

What is this American catholic church you’re talking about?

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I’m not sure, but I think it might be this:

accus.us/

They aren’t in communion with Rome, and claim their lineage through the Old Catholic Union of Utrecht. They seem quite liberal - almost “Episcopal Lite.”

Though, that poster also has as religion: “Roman Catholic, post-Vatican II.” After a post like that, the folks over on Traditional Catholicism would have a field day…
 
It certainly looks like it.

Being arrested is one thing, having them get prosecuted for it, is quite another.
I agree. I can almost understand bringing the police in, and having the arrests made, to preserve order, and keep the protestors from disrupting Obama’s speech (though, they even got a little heavy-handed on that respect). However, to take it to the next step and press charges is entirely inexcusible.
 
As a voting Roman Catholic, I applaud Norte Dame for reconizing the President of the United States Democratic principle and leadership. My Cardinal, gave his Archdiecies permission to vote for President Obama if we liked what he could do for America. The Roman Catholic Church is different from the American Catholic church in that we respect a persons views. You don’t have to agree with me to be a Catholic.
My Cardinal didn’t excommumicate me!!!
I think you have more important things to worry about than whether as a nation we fund abortions or stem-cell research.
WITHOUT FUNDING, ABORTIONS WILL STILL BE PREFORMED AND STEAM CELL RESEARCH WILL CONTINUE.
Where were you guys when George Bush;. Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton was president, they shared the same views as President Obama? Are you using Catholic Answers to influence voters for the Republican party?:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
President Jenkins didn’t arrest anyone, the police did, the police were trying to keep law and order and some Americans didn’t want to do the right things and were arrested, President Jenkins doesn’t want to interfere with the police doing their jobs.:)🙂
I think you need to do a little research. Funding of abortion was at an all time low under George Bush. He limited support for abortion in many ways. He also protected Catholics who didn’t want to be involved with abortion. Obama immediately reversed these policies after his inauguration. We as Catholics need to make sure we will not be involved with abortion. Obama’s plan and that of his cohorts do not do that.
 
I agree. I can almost understand bringing the police in, and having the arrests made, to preserve order, and keep the protestors from disrupting Obama’s speech (though, they even got a little heavy-handed on that respect). However, to take it to the next step and press charges is entirely inexcusible.
Why is that inexcusable for folks who announced ahead of time they were coming to the campus to be disruptive?

I thought conservatives were always parroting stuff about ‘personal responsibility’. OK, let’s let the chips fall where they may.

Once again, does anyone think that the state of IN is going back to corporal punishment? At worst, these folks may be fined. Possibly.
 
Why is that inexcusable for folks who announced ahead of time they were coming to the campus to be disruptive?
Oh yes, nothing like the sight of an 85 year old Priest and people peacefully praying the rosary that is really disruptive. Invite me to your University and I’ll show you the definition of disruptive!!
I thought conservatives were always parroting stuff about ‘personal responsibility’. OK, let’s let the chips fall where they may.
I thought Father Jenkins should represent Jesus. Would Jesus really do this? St. Peter attacked a Guard and cut off his ear. Jesus pleaded for his release.
Once again, does anyone think that the state of IN is going back to corporal punishment? At worst, these folks may be fined. Possibly.
This episode represents what is wrong with “Catholic” Universities.
 
Oh yes, nothing like the sight of an 85 year old Priest and people peacefully praying the rosary that is really disruptive. Invite me to your University and I’ll show you the definition of disruptive!!
He didn’t expect to be arrested? What is the usual response when security tells you to move and you don’t?
I thought Father Jenkins should represent Jesus. Would Jesus really do this? St. Peter attacked a Guard and cut off his ear. Jesus pleaded for his release.
Jesus went to jail.
This episode represents what is wrong with “Catholic” Universities.
Says you.
It certainly looks like it.
Someone going to jail on a misdemeanor trespassing bounce? One what planet?
Being arrested is one thing, having them get prosecuted for it, is quite another.
Prosecution is a long way from persecution.
 
He didn’t expect to be arrested? What is the usual response when security tells you to move and you don’t?
I didn’t say anything about being arrested. You said the protesters were being disruptive. When I successfully rebut that, you change what you say.
Jesus went to jail.
Quite unjustly I might add.
Says you.
Your point?
Someone going to jail on a misdemeanor trespassing bounce? One what planet?
I sincerely hope you are right. But Father Jenkins should have dropped the charges. He CAN do this despite what he says.
Prosecution is a long way from persecution.
Notre Dame, the USA’s Premier Catholic University, arresting people for peacefully protesting the President.
 
I didn’t say anything about being arrested. You said the protesters were being disruptive. When I successfully rebut that, you change what you say.
Sorry, They *were *disruptive. I believe they were asked repeatedly to leave private property. A refusal will get you arrested.
Your point?
Everyone has an opinion.
I sincerely hope you are right. But Father Jenkins should have dropped the charges. He CAN do this despite what he says.
Yes, he can. But then he would look foolish for ever having brought the charges. And folks who want to similarly trespass would be emboldened. I’m really not sure if he should or should not.
Notre Dame, the USA’s Premier Catholic University, arresting people for peacefully protesting the President.
A private university, trying to conduct graduation ceremonies for students, their parents and celebrated guests, confronts demonstrators who have invaded private property, first stating an intention to disrupt the services and be arrested. I think the college’s tactics were measured and reasonable.

They could have turned fire hoses on them, right?
 
Boll weevel, I guess we can count on your support for the St. Paul Police who are being sued by the protesters who were arrested during the RNC. unlike the 85 yo priest, they were NOT praying, but damaging private property and planning serious mayhem…

I like your moniker…

when I was a kid I remember the song “Boll Weevel”
 
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