And the noose is getting tighter

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I think we can be relatively sure no Republican having any sense of privacy at all will ever run again. The Dems are seeking absolute power by personal destruction of their opponents, and are likely to achieve it after Trump. We, of course, will pay the price.
 
Other candidates have published their tax returns. Trump chose to break that long-standing convention.

I guess the kinds of people who won’t run for President are the kinds of people who don’t want their private dealings made public. We can debate whether that’s a warranted intrusion into personal affairs of a candidate, but seeing as several previous candidates in both parties were willing to allow the electorate to peak into their private finances, it doesn’t seem such a horrible precedent to me.
 
Ridgerunner said:
I think we can be relatively sure no Republican having any sense of privacy at all will ever run again.
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Every President of modern time has disclosed his tax returns. Until President Trump, that is.
 
Democrats like to think that the noose is getting tighter. Keep thinking that. Live in your dream world.
 
Rebellion is not a virtue. Scripture puts rebellion alongside of witchcraft/divination. We are commanded to be meek, humble, obedient, kind.
 
Rebellion is a great virtue. I love rebels. Our country was formed on the backs of rebels.
 
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RuthAnne said:
Rebellion is a great virtue.
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Would you show me the Catholic teaching that says this?

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1834 The human virtues are stable dispositions of the intellect and the will that govern our acts, order our passions, and guide our conduct in accordance with reason and faith. They can be grouped around the four cardinal virtues: prudence, justice, fortitude, and temperance.

Along side:

908 By his obedience unto death, Christ communicated to his disciples the gift of royal freedom, so that they might “by the self-abnegation of a holy life, overcome the reign of sin in themselves”:

That man is rightly called a king who makes his own body an obedient subject and, by governing himself with suitable rigor, refuses to let his passions breed rebellion in his soul, for he exercises a kind of royal power over himself. And because he knows how to rule his own person as king, so too does he sit as its judge. He will not let himself be imprisoned by sin, or thrown headlong into wickedness.
 
The hazard, I think, is that we’ll be assured of uninteresting and less capable people running for that office. People of real accomplishment often leave some eggshells behind.
TheLittleLady said:
Every President of modern time has disclosed his tax returns. Until President Trump, that is.
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Not quite. LBJ was the first to do it. Gerald Ford didn’t.
 
You do realize he is going to win next fall, don’t you? These incessant fantasy topics from the new swarm of anti-Trump posters is tiresome. Hopefully, they will all go away again when he wins a second-term, as he is likely to do.
 
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niceatheist said:
Other candidates have published their tax returns. Trump chose to break that long-standing convention.

I guess the kinds of people who won’t run for President are the kinds of people who don’t want their private dealings made public. We can debate whether that’s a warranted intrusion into personal affairs of a candidate, but seeing as several previous candidates in both parties were willing to allow the electorate to peak into their private finances, it doesn’t seem such a horrible precedent to me.
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But it’s not a requirement or a law. It’s just a precedent. Presidents break them all the time. Remember when Pres. Carter and the First Lady chose to walk in the inaugural parade instead of riding?

I think that Pres. Trump is very wise to break a “precedent” that is not useful to anyone. If this kind of thing continues–searching every nook and cranny of a person’s life to see if they are somehow “flawed,” we will NEVER find ANYONE who is “clean enough” to run for President. EVERYONE has a skeleton in the closet.
 
Because less transparency just inevitably leads to better leaders
 
Peeps said:
I think that Pres. Trump is very wise to break a “precedent” that is not useful to anyone. If this kind of thing continues–searching every nook and cranny of a person’s life to see if they are somehow “flawed,” we will NEVER find ANYONE who is “clean enough” to run for President. EVERYONE has a skeleton in the closet
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The Democrats are very good at hiding things, even when they brag about them on TV like Biden, because the Dem media closes ranks around them. it will only be the Republicans who will be hurt by this. But I suppose that’s the intent of all this rooting out of everything in a person’s life.
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Because less transparency just inevitably leads to better leaders
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No. But total transparency can and usually seems to lead to leaders who have either been on the public payroll for life or have trust funds from a previous generation. Harry Truman is the last president who actually made his living as an ordinary citizen.
 
Ridgerunner said:
No. But total transparency can and usually seems to lead to leaders who have either been on the public payroll for life or have trust funds from a previous generation. Harry Truman is the last president who actually made his living as an ordinary citizen.
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There are two things wrong with this. One is that there is no reason to think that transparency is any less of a challenge to public personalities or politicians than it is for real estate developers. The other is that there is no reason to think that real estate developers would, in general, make better presidents than Senators or Mayors or Governors.
 
RuthAnne said:
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LeafByNiggle:
Our country was nearly destroyed by rebels too.
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You give the democrats way too much credit.
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No, the civil war very nearly did destroy our nation. If one is to extol the virtues of being a rebel then one must not pick and choose which rebels to extol.
 
“We” are already paying the price… just what is trump hiding? I want to know.
 
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