And Then They Came for J.K. Rowling

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I think LGBT+ and radical feminism have a natural tendency to cannibalize themselves because they are centered on the glorification of themselves in every facet of society, and that inevitably means them clashing with one another, like when two animals that are both highly territorial are interested in the same stretch of land. This story is spreading because Rowling is so high profile, but it wasn’t the first and it won’t be the last.
 
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UGCC said:
It’s not about the magical fantasy elements of the works; it is about the fact that some of the names of characters are names of actual demons. And some of the spells are genuine satanic incantations
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Got a source for that? The only things I could find were actual Wicca practitioners saying that the books weren’t anywhere near resembling the occult.
 
Again: see Fr. Ripperger, an ordained exorcist of the Church, and head of the Auxilium Christianorum.
 
UGCC said:
It’s not about the magical fantasy elements of the works; it is about the fact that some of the names of characters are names of actual demons. And some of the spells are genuine satanic incantations.
To use the name of a demon - which is actually a descriptor of its function - without the authority of the provision of faculties by the Church, gives one no authority over it. And to invoke a demonic title without faculties empowers the said demon.
As stated above, Rowling has the same inscription on her arm as the satanic Baphomet: no Catholic should go anywhere near Rowling or her works.
Anyone who is interested should search the web for Fr. Ripperger’s exposition on Rowling and her work.
I know many people enjoy these books/ films, but that’s just the truth, I’m afraid.
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Give an example (the role of the character if you don’t want to write the name)
 
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Pretty sad actually to see many Catholics very much of the world these days.
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I find your post to be lacking in charity, and frankly, in logic.

First of all, Harry Potter is a children’s book, and the magic spells in the books are fictional. No child or adult in their right mind has ever thought otherwise. If some people are incapable of distinguishing between fiction and reality, that’s their own personal problem, and should not be generalized to the larger population. Which leads us to the second point, which is the manifest lack of charity in your post.

I realize that some Catholics like to hold over-the-top beliefs, and they are free to do so. However, I personally draw the line of tolerance at the point where such Catholics start insinuating that Catholics who do not share their ridiculous beliefs are “of the world”, “lukewarm”, and other such nonsense. A Catholic is not “of the world” just because he or she is capable of distinguishing fiction from reality. It’s quite unfortunate that not all people enjoy that ability.

As for the “glorifying magic” nonsense, I have never met anyone, nor myself been inclined, to practice magic or think that magic is “glorious” because of Harry Potter. This is because the majority of humans understand that the magic of Harry Potter is fictional. Meaning it’s not real. Meaning it doesn’t exist. Meaning no one’s going to try to do it seriously.

What’s really sad is that some Catholics prefer to reduce Catholicism to either Harry Potter, women’s swimsuits, or any other such insignificant issue, rather than actually practice Catholicism and Catholic charity and refrain from throwing baseless insinuations at people.

Harry Potter is only dangerous for the er, special type of person who doesn’t realize where fiction ends and where reality begins. It’s preferable if such persons did not generalize their experience to the rest of the population.
 
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I think you need to read my post above.
If it were just a matter of fiction then you may well be right.
 
I’m sorry: I don’t think I understand your question.

Are you trying to discern which figures bear these names?
 
Please let’s keep this on topic. If you want to discuss Harry Potter, please make a new thread.

This thread is about J.K Rowling and her comments over the last few weeks, not her work.
 
I always found that the issues certain Christians (primarily fundamentalist Protestants) had with Harry Potter were unfounded in the actual novels by J. K. Rowling and that the critique came from people who had never read the books.
I always advocated for these books as good, moral reading stuff that advocates charity and Christian family values.
When I read what Rowling had written on twitter I thought “good for her.” She’s showing her true morals are not unchristian, but rather in line with good Christian understanding of gender. I thought for sure this must change the minds of some of these people… But I was mistaken… It’s EXACTLY the same unfounded arguments and discussion as last time…
 
UGCC said:
Again: see Fr. Ripperger, an ordained exorcist of the Church, and head of the Auxilium Christianorum.
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I will never understand why this priest’s name is thrown around like he’s the personification of the Magisterium itself. He’s an individual priest with individual opinions. Nothing against him, but he has this collection of devotees who seem to view his every utterance as an infallible, divinely inspired truth.
 
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Again: see Fr. Ripperger, an ordained exorcist of the Church, and head of the Auxilium Christianorum
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That’s just one opinion from one priest. Several other priests disagree with this opinion.
 
Are the magic spells fictional? I have heard otherwise, from exorcists. JK Rowling went to witch school herself and some of those spells have been said to be real. Exorcists have had to do exorcisms on children and demons clarified they gained entry through Harry Potter.

I do not see Harry Potter being anything good for children or adults. Children can name all these names of characters in Harry Potter, yet can those same kids name the 12 Apostles?

We all need to remember that satan is the father of lies who comes to destroy. He comes as an angel of light. It is pretty safe to say the smoke of Satan has entered through things like Harry Potter. We see it even praised by Catholics.
 
Lou2U said:
This thread is about J.K Rowling and her comments over the last few weeks, not her work
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To keep the thread on topic:
Much as I love Twitter, they’re verrrry quick to crucify someone they don’t agree with, which is funny to me since a lot of twitter users seem to think that they’re the paragons of tolerance and open-mindedness.
Nuance and debate in the internet is a lost concept. It’s easier to just shout your opponent down and stick your fingers in your ears when someone responds. Just take a look this forum lol, especially the Philosophy and World News. I’ve never taken anything said there too seriously
 
c4csp said:
Are the magic spells fictional? I have heard otherwise, from exorcists. JK Rowling went to witch school herself and some of those spells have been said to be real. Exorcists have had to do exorcisms on children and demons clarified they gained entry through Harry Potter
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People keep saying ‘exorcists said,’ ‘Rippenger said,’ but pagans and Wiccans alike have said that none of the spells are remotely similar to what they do.
I feel like out of all people they would be most interested in promoting this idea, but they aren’t lol.
 
Funvod said:
To keep the thread on topic:
Much as I love Twitter, they’re verrrry quick to crucify someone they don’t agree with, which is funny to me since a lot of twitter users seem to think that they’re the paragons of tolerance and open-mindedness.
Nuance and debate in the internet is a lost concept. It’s easier to just shout your opponent down and stick your fingers in your ears when someone responds. Just take a look this forum lol, especially the Philosophy and World News. I’ve never taken anything said there too seriously
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I completely agree. Twitter in particular isn’t designed for nuanced debate. The whole point of it is to get across whatever you want to say in 280 characters, which makes real discussion impossible. People want to see in black and white, but issues rarely, if ever, take that form.

Social media has just made it possible for people to exist in their own echo chambers, and then they forget that’s not how the world actually works. Hence cancel culture and the horrific abuse people get if they don’t respond exactly as they ‘should’. Rowling acknowledged this in her essay.
And please, let’s keep this on topic. Harry Potter/Fr Rippenger’s opinions have been discussed here hundreds of times. If you want to talk about it again, make a new thread. Don’t derail this one, please.
 
c4csp said:
Are the magic spells fictional? I have heard otherwise, from exorcists
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I have heard it said that the Earth is flat. That doesn’t make it true.
c4csp said:
JK Rowling went to witch school herself and some of those spells have been said to be real.
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Which witch school, where, and when? I doubt the accuracy of any such statement absent significant evidence. And “Fr. X said so” is not significant evidence. And again, someone saying that the spells are real doesn’t make it so.
 
Lou2U said:
Social media has just made it possible for people to exist in their own echo chambers, and then they forget that’s not how the world actually works. Hence cancel culture and the horrific abuse people get if they don’t respond exactly as they ‘should
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Cancel culture especially is ridiculous. I get the sentiment, but it’s gotten to the point where people csn get up in arms about a 10 second video clip that has no context.
If you have the time to argue in a twitter thread for hours you have the time to do 30 seconds of googling.
 
And the relevance of your opinion to this thread is what, precisely?

I have no idea if he has a raft of devotees or not; he is an ordained and appointed exorcist of the Church, and an authority on occultism and demonology. He is one of over 150 exorcists of the Auxilium Christianorum who are consistent in their teaching on the matter.

The reason I recommend searching Fr. Ripperger’s comments on the subject is that they are widely available and readily accessible on the internet. Perhaps you could find the comments of another exorcist on the matter to whom you’ve not taken a personal dislike, if that feels more agreeable?

Either way you should really stick to the subject matter of the thread. Maybe start a ’ Why is Fr. Ripperger so popular?’ thread?
 
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