Angela Bonavoglia Won't Let Catholic Church Silence Her

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Angela Bonavoglia won’t let Catholic Church silence her
Thursday, May 19, 2005

By MAKEBA SCOTT
HUNTER HERALD NEWS

Angela Bonavoglia, the controversial speaker and author who was banned from speaking at the Catholic Jesuit Loyola Retreat in Morristown last week by Paterson Bishop Arthur J. Serratelli, spoke before a packed audience at an alternate location instead - St. Mark Lutheran Church, also in Morristown.

Although clearly dismayed the bishop’s decision (“They don’t know me,” she quipped), Bonavoglia gave her speech as planned on May 11 and talked about the “invisible” crime of sex abuse against females and the need for the church to reconsider its policies on female ordination and priest marriage. **Both practices are banned under Catholic law. **

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LourdesladyN:
the need for the church to reconsider its policies on female ordination and priest marriage. **Both practices are banned under Catholic law. **

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If I’m not mistake, priest marriage COULD be overturned in the future by the church but female ordination is NOT possible now or ever.
 
Like a majority of U.S. Catholics (according to an April CBS News poll), Bonavoglia supports a re-evaluation of certain church policies, such as the ban on priest marriage, female ordination and all forms of birth control. Like a majority of U.S. Catholics (according to an April CBS News poll), Bonavoglia supports a re-evaluation of certain church policies, such as the ban on priest marriage, female ordination and all forms of birth control>>>>>

Interesting how they make this grand assumption. Not to mention that they aren’t even telling the truth about church teachings.

Lisa N
 
Same ole Same ole… these people are getting dull.

Accept the church’s teachings or don’t. But don’t change the church to fit your agenda.
 
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mommy:
Same ole Same ole… these people are getting dull.

Accept the church’s teachings or don’t. But don’t change the church to fit your agenda.
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Yep. I’m getting so :yawn: :yawn: of those people! I’m sick of their whinning and:crying: .
 
This person is catholic? if it´s that, this person have to reconsider many of his positions or leaving the church
 
This person is Catholic in name only. When heretics are judged they will be asked why they rejected God and his Truth.
 
Did Jesus end the Sermon on the Mount with : “Unless of course you don’t agree”

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Sir Knight:
If I’m not mistake, priest marriage COULD be overturned in the future by the church but female ordination is NOT possible now or ever.
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Actually priest marriage could not be changed.

Once ordained to Holy Orders, even the diaconate, one can not enter into marriage.

What could change in the Latin Catholic Church is the ordination of married men to the priesthood.

Married men can already be ordained to the diaconate in the Latin Church and to both the diaconate and priesthood in the Eastern Catholic Churches.
 
From the article: “‘A basic tenet of our church is the Primacy of Conscience - that we have an obligation to listen to our conscience - and our theology must reflect what people think and feel about church teachings,’ she said.”

Well dang!! Obviously theology and Church teachings are based on what people think they should be! Church teachings should always change to suit the feelings of the members!
Silly me, I’ve been doing it all wrong— I’ve been attempting to change my life to reflect the Church’s teachings. Silly, silly me! :whacky:
 
I like this quote by Bishop Arthur J. Serratelli:
]“We affirm the right of every person to free speech,” the diocese said in a statement released on May 10. “We affirm the right of every person to speak according to the dictates of conscience. However, we also hold fast to the doctrines of the faith and its teaching. It is inappropriate to create a forum in a Catholic House of Prayer for those who speak against the Church’s teachings.”
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AuntMartha:
I like this quote by Bishop Arthur J. Serratelli:
“We affirm the right of every person to free speech,” the diocese said in a statement released on May 10. “We affirm the right of every person to speak according to the dictates of conscience. However, we also hold fast to the doctrines of the faith and its teaching. It is inappropriate to create a forum in a Catholic House of Prayer for those who speak against the Church’s teachings.”
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Amen. A right to free speech does not mean a right to a venue for your free speech. Just like I have the right to own a gun, but that does not mean the gov’t must give me a gun, or that I can steal one.

Scott
 
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And married men, with dispensation can be ordained into the Roman Rite:

Church Law: Uniformed Informer Alert click here
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And as a dispensation to the Law can be granted this shows that this is a discipline that is codified in Church Law.

Explictly in these these two Canons from the Code of Canon Law.

Can. 277
§1 Clerics are obliged to observe perfect and perpetual continence for the sake of the Kingdom of heaven, and are therefore bound to celibacy. Celibacy is a special gift of God by which sacred ministers can more easily remain close to Christ with an undivided heart, and can dedicate themselves more freely to the service of God and their neighbour.

Can. 1037
A candidate for the permanent diaconate who is not married and likewise a candidate for the priesthood, is not to be admitted to the order of diaconate unless he has, in the prescribed rite, publicly before God and the Church undertaken the obligation of celibacy, or unless he has taken perpetual vows in a religious institute.

And here is the Canon from the Code of canons of Oriental Churchs.

Canon 373
Clerical celibacy chosen for the sake of the kingdom of heaven and suited to the priesthood is to be greatly esteemed everywhere, as supported by the tradition of the whole Church; likewise, the hallowed practice of married clerics in the primitive Church and in the tradition of the Eastern Churches throughout the ages is to be held in honor.
 
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And as a dispensation to the Law can be granted this shows that this is a discipline that is codified in Church Law.
Can. 277Can. 1037Canon 373
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Dearest David,
I am not implying that what you said was “uninformed” (Church Law: Uniformed/Informer Alert) I am stating that when the reporter alleged that priestly celibacy is church law in all cases, he was uniformed. As you have adequately shown------it is not a law that all priests be celibate. It is honored and preferred------but it is indeed dispensed in some cases.

I will try to be clearer in the future.

In Christ’s Peace,
 
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Dearest David,
I am not implying that what you said was “uninformed” (Church Law: Uniformed/Informer Alert) I am stating that when the reporter alleged that priestly celibacy is church law in all cases, he was uniformed. As you have adequately shown------it is not a law that all priests be celibate. It is honored and preferred------but it is indeed dispensed in some cases.

I will try to be clearer in the future.

In Christ’s Peace,
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I sort of thought that, but I thought that putting up the associated Canons would be useful for everyone to see.
 
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juno24:
From the article: “‘A basic tenet of our church is the Primacy of Conscience - that we have an obligation to listen to our conscience - and our theology must reflect what people think and feel about church teachings,’ she said.”

Well dang!! Obviously theology and Church teachings are based on what people think they should be! Church teachings should always change to suit the feelings of the members!
Silly me, I’ve been doing it all wrong— I’ve been attempting to change my life to reflect the Church’s teachings. Silly, silly me! :whacky:
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You know I often see those who want to change the Church to reflect their political beliefs talk about the “primacy of conscience”. Funny thing is I cant find ANYTHING in Church teachings that tells us conscience trumps doctrines.
 
Scott Waddell:
Amen. A right to free speech does not mean a right to a venue for your free speech. Just like I have the right to own a gun, but that does not mean the gov’t must give me a gun, or that I can steal one.

Scott
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Our Pastor came here from Poland and can be very blunt. During the election he commented that a Parsioner told him he needed to understand that in this country we have the right to free speech. He responded you also have the right to talk yourslef right into hell
 
These so-called “Catholics” will probably go to their grave still whining about things they don’t agree with. If they want a church that reflects all their thoughts, then why don’t they start one of their own. Lots of other people have.
 
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