Angry at God and disillusioned by modernity (more)

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small things as sexual harassment
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You may not like the media response to sexual harrassment, but when it happens, it is not a “small thing”. If it were your mother or sister, would you think it to be a “small thing”? I’m not sure if you’re saying harrasment is no big deal, or if it’s just the response to it that is problematic.
 
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The media is extremely fake. The majority of human beings do not hold those views.
 
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And it makes me feel sick that I am growing up young in an era where any woman can simply accuse a man of rape and get off more easy on it. I feel like if I was born 30-40 years before my time, I would be able to live it up young here before it all went down the tube and got corrupted.
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I don’t know why you think life was any easier for those of us born 30 or 40 or 50 years or more before you. Young people have always felt that they have it worse than anyone else. It is part of becoming an adult!!

You could have been drafted to go fight and die in a far away place, but, you do not have to worry about your draft number coming up on TV.

You could have lived in a time with air raid bomb drills in the classroom, at a time when kids got Polio.

Go back not that much further and you would have had a time when there were no antibiotics or labor laws.

Give thanks that you have been born in a time when you are not likely to die from a small cut. At a time where you are free and do not have to do hard labor 14 hours every day. When and where there is clean drinking water and flush toilets.
 
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What I’m referring at here is stuff that isn’t really harassment at all. The only reason that certain incidents are considered harassment is because some group said it was harassment.

And our society has already been corrupted here and God is just going to allow it to continue and it’s not going to be like he will go “Alright, I will reset the clock of the events back”. It bothers me that he is alone can be the only example of “good” and any deviance to him is evil and corruptness.

God only commands or desires a certain kind of perfection. Why would I want to go to Heaven and be with God for eternity if his design laws for eternity would eliminate all imperfections and desires, something that makes me who I am? It’s really bad that one can’t just “opt out” of both Heaven and Hell, because if that eternal life is actually like it’s described, than I’d rather not exist at all after I die. The Bible basically has verses saying that Heaven is beyond our imagination and that still may sound very cool and all, but still.
 
I was there 50 years ago. No, things were not perfect. There was crime and all the rest. No one died from small cuts, we had flush toilets, and antibiotics. By 1961, only 161 cases of Polio were reported in the US. The lie being spread - speaking generally - is that dysfunctional living, alternative lifestyles, abortion and No-Fault Divorce (created out of thin air) are goods is 100% false. I got my draft card. A friend got Conscientious Objector status.

And NO, it’s false to believe it’s all part of becoming an adult! Adults, most adults, were looked up to, especially parents.
 
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If you notice, I kept going back further and further in history.

Of course there were abx and flush toilets 50 years ago. However, kids were still vulnerable to smallpox and 60 years ago polio. It was not heaven on earth in the 1950s as our OP seems to believe.
 
I was there in the 1950s. It was demonstrably better than today. Much better. And I have other eyewitnesses.
 
It wasn’t literally a heaven on earth, but it seemed nicer in a lot of ways compared to today.
 
No, it wasn’t heaven on earth, but people, in general, were more civil, as in civilized. Good neighbors were a lot more common.
 
I think that we now tend to confuse the virtual world of social media with the real world.

People have two different faces, one they show online and another that exists off-screen.

That is definitely something that did not happen 50 years ago. People could not hide behind a screen name!
 
It’s easy to look at the past and say: Yeah, that looked easier and better.

The reality is different.

We say young people have it harder today because of internet and a corrupt culture but try to imagine being a young Christian in Rome prior to Constantine. Get caught and get thrown to lions. Sure seems like that would have been a super easy time to live.

Or how about growing up when black people were seen as non-persons or Jews were seen as non-persons or when the Irish were seen as non-persons?

Or how about growing up when you knew at any minute you could be drafted to fight in a war you didn’t believe in?

Or growing up in the greatest depression ever seen?

Or growing up in a country where people were so desperate they started eating their own babies?

But yeah, we in this developed country with all our conveniences… we REALLY have it harder than all those people.

I don’t mean to be sarcastic. I am not negating that young people have a hard go… I just don’t think it’s any better or any worse than any other generation.

I grew up before the internet. I dealt with bullying, molestation (and NO adults stepped in or helped to stop it because that was ‘just what boys did’), extreme isolation (had literally no friends except the odd few my mother would pick for me), poverty (and I don’t mean mom couldn’t buy the Barbie I wanted, I mean we often went without food). I couldn’t go to college because we couldn’t afford it and the loan people wouldn’t give us a loan. I didn’t finish High School because our principal didn’t like me and decided to give us as hard a time as possible. And even I don’t think I had it ‘that bad’. Because I heard stories of how my mother grew up and I realized no… I was still leading a more privileged life than some.

Perspective is important.

We have a hard time seeing outside our current lens but it’s important we take those glasses off and look at the past with hard, cold truth.

If you want a better life don’t pine for what’s behind, work for what’s ahead.
 
People still hid. I didn’t grow up with internet and I had a ‘public’ face and a ‘private’ face. The internet may have changed things but it’s not as different as we think.

I say this as someone who plans to ban her children from internet until they’re 16.
 
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I’ve been feeling a lot of anger towards God and the morality/belief doctrines of the Catholic church and other Christian churches
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Join the club, my friend. It’s all part of the human experience. 🙂
 
No, but it does create opportunities for unscrupulous people and creates a sense of isolation.
 
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I was there in the 1950s. It was demonstrably better than today. Much better. And I have other eyewitnesses.
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I know African Americans who lived in the deep south at that time. They would say your statements are 100% false.
 
This life - current society - needs its past. It needs to understand it. The 24/7 media promotion of dysfunctional living constantly distorts the truth about life. Constantly. I recommend ignoring the media, including most TV and movies. When I was growing up, TV was clean. No warnings required. My parents lived through the Great Depression. They lived through World War II. This promotion of bad-wrong behavior requires all of us to not participate in most of what is promoted as fun. The fun I had was wholesome. Not like today.

I am a professional researcher and a student of the decline of Western society. I lived through it. Total strangers wanted to overturn what was good and moral. That’s documented.
 
I recognize that our culture glorifies the bad but other cultures in the past have done this as well.

In MY youth the culture was to accuse victims, to shush victims and sexual abuse, as a result, was everywhere. Like I said, NO adults in my life stepped in to stop it even AFTER I told them because it was the culture back then that this is ‘just what boys/men did’. And no, it wasn’t just a ‘my family’ problem, since other adults I was exposed to had the exact same mentality.

Heck, at 17 I came out to a social worker and she laughed at me and told me I was clearly just looking for attention.

So yeah… that was only 20 years back. I have a hard time believing it was ANY better before that since one culture bleeds into and shapes the next.
 
A search of documented events shows your bias against the progress black people made in the United States.
Separate but equal doctrine overturned (1954)
Bus segregation ruled unconstitutional by Browder v. Gayle (1956)
Civil Rights Act (1957)
 
I’ll tell the folks who lived through it and have relayed their experiences to me that Ed on the internet said they were biased.
 
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