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In short, don’t buy from KFC. They treat the animals poorly, and the food is disgusting rubbish that should not enter a human body.
Well said. That sort of illustrates a point I wanted to make that by helping animals and making sure they are healthy and happy, we also help ourselves. They are, after all, the source of a lot of our food. Wouldn’t you rather have meat or milk that came from a healthy, well fed cow than not?
 
WILKES-BARRE, Pa. (AP) – Humane officers say a Pennsylvania woman marketed “gothic kittens” with ear, neck and tail piercings over the Internet.

What sort of person does this?
Some one who does not have the best interests of the kittens at heart.

First there would be the trauma of the piercing - then going to owners who might not know how to look after piercings and the danger of putting rings in and cats getting caught on branches etc because of them.

I recognise the dangers of the collars my cat wear but I consider these less than the likely outcome of fights etc that the cats might into if they were out during the day and they are used to being indoor/outdoor cats.
 
and baby seals 😦
The seal hunt is a legitimate industry and fine people working for it. There are several things you need to understand. It is illegal to kill “whitecoats”, or pups under a certain age. There are about 6 million seals in Newfoundland, and the population is 500,000 or so, so there are about 12 seals per person. We only kill a tiny percentage each year, and they are used for meat, fur, and other things, like native art.

Seals have a great and natural life until they are slaughtered, unlike other farm animals like cows and chickens. They have the best situation of any animal that is used for food or fur.
 
“Many beverages and other processed foods made with high-fructose corn syrup and other sweeteners are high in calories and low in nutritional value. Regularly including these products in your diet has the potential to promote obesity — which, in turn, promotes conditions such as type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure and coronary artery disease.” ~ www.mayoclinic.com
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“Big Mac sandwich:
Nutrition Facts
Serving Size: 7.5 oz (214 g)
Amount per Serving
Calories 540 Calories from Fat 260
% Daily Value *
Total Fat 29g 45%
Saturated Fat 10g 50%
Trans Fat 1.5g
Cholesterol 75mg 25%
Sodium 1040mg 43%
Total Carbohydrate 45g 15%
Dietary Fiber 3g 12%
Sugars 9g
Protein 25g 50%
Vitamin A 6%
Vitamin C 2%
Calcium 25%
Iron 25%
Est. Percent of Calories from:
Fat 48.3% Carbs 33.3%
Protein 18.5%”* ~ www.thedailyplate.com

I’d take the corn syrup over the heart attack between two slabs of bread any day.

marietta
 
Well.It takes a real man to beat on an animal as vicious as a seal.With those threatening flippers and those big whiskers!!!Let’s see you take on one of these terrifying monsters, missy!!!
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supply and demand. if people didn’t wear animal fur, it would not be profitable to hold the hunt.
 
😦

supply and demand. if people didn’t wear animal fur, it would not be profitable to hold the hunt.
You mean they’re not really a threat?:eek: People are only bludgeoning these critters to death so they can decorate themselves?:confused:

We live in a sick world…😊
 
You mean they’re not really a threat?:eek: People are only bludgeoning these critters to death so they can decorate themselves?:confused:

We live in a sick world…😊
yep sad… in His providential care, God gives them fur to help them survive … and man comes along and rips it off their bodies even though we no longer need it for our own survival. shame on us. 😦
 
… and then blames the collapse of the cod fisheries on those pesky seals. hsicanada.ca/seals/seals_and_cod.html

It would be funny if it wasn’t so pathetic.
truly. if bludgeoning baby animals to death was justified by the depletion of food by that species, it’s a good thing that pinnipeds have neither the inclination nor the ability to grasp a hakapik themselves and start “culling” our population. we decimated their food supply, not the other way around. :cool:
 
Sorry,I couldn’t help myself,…

St Thomas Aquinas’ philosophical writings about the nature of animals, and the example set by Francis’ relationship with them, can both enlighten and inspire us today. These Catholic thinkers clearly illustrate the meaning of ‘catholic’ as ‘universal’ and ‘all-inclusive’. Yet not all Catholics treat animals in a way consistent with their veneration of these saints. Why is this? After presenting an address of Pope John Paul II regarding animals, I will explain the background of his claim that animals have a soul. The best source of this explanation is Aquinas, who also sets the stage for understanding how Francis can treat animals in a brotherly way. By recounting anecdotes from Francis’ life, I hope to show that he was an exemplary precursor of the modern animal rights activist. Having viewed the attitude towards animals of such spiritual Catholics, I will suggest a reason why more people don’t follow their lead.

In 1990, Pope John Paul II proclaimed [in a general audience] that ‘the animals possess a soul and men must love and feel solidarity with our smaller brethren’. He added that all animals are ‘fruit of the creative action of the Holy Spirit and merit respect’ and that they are ‘as near to God as men are’. The Pope emphasized that ‘animals possess the divine spark of life – the living quality that is the soul’.

The Pope was not advancing a new notion. This concept is rooted in the teachings of St Thomas Aquinas (1225-1274), who acknowledged the fact that animals possess a soul. Aquinas’ argument begins by observing that some things [e.g. rocks, minerals] are inert, while others are capable of movement, perception, thought, and desire. We call the former ‘non-living’ and the latter ‘living’. If some bodies are living and others aren’t, life can’t be explained by the mere fact that a thing is a body. So what is the source of life in a body? The source can’t bephysical, because if it were, then any material thing would be living, which is absurd. Aquinas reasons that a body is alive not merely because it’s a physical thing but because of a cause which isn’t bodily or material. Without an immaterial substance or soul, a body would simply be a corpse. So it’s the presence of a soul that distinguishes animate beings from inanimate beings.

An alternative explanation is that a physical organ, such as the brain, heart, or lungs is what makes someone live, rather than a soul. But this alternative fails to consider that the brain, heart and lungs are each a living organ. So what is it that makes each of these organs live? According to Aquinas, only something essentially different from a bodily organ can make these organs perform the activities of life. This essentially different substance is the soul, which organizes all the bodily organs so that they can function as a living unity.

For Aquinas, an essential difference in activity indicates an essential difference in an organism. The vegetative soul is the seat of a plant’s ability to absorb nutrition and grow by cell multiplication. Animal life reveals itself, not only in acts of nutrition, reproduction and growth, but also in sensation, motion, consciousness and self-direction. Since animals have a wider range of activities than the vegetative soul, Aquinas attributes to them a ‘sensitive soul’. Human life encompasses all the previously mentioned activities but is distinguished from other life forms by reasoning and choosing freely. The human soul, accordingly, is called the ‘rational soul’.
Embedded in substance

Besides making things live, the soul is the substance which underlies mental activities. No activity exists separately from a substance. Try to think of the activity of running without someone running. It can’t be done. Nor can colour, pleasure, or weight subsist in themselves. They are always found to inhere in a substance. In the same way, mental activities require a substance in which they are embedded. The activities of perception, thought, and desire presuppose the existence of the soul or a substance which unifies the various mental states of an animal. Because she has a soul, a cat knows that the sound of the can-opener is connected to the food she sees and tastes, which is what she desires. Her soul unifies her perceptions.

According to Aquinas, human and the ‘higher’ non-human animals possess the senses, desire, memory, and imagination. Inferring emotions from the behaviour of animals, Aquinas notes that they feel joy, sorrow, pain, pleasure, fear, anger, and love. He knew that animals respond emotionally to what they remember, as well as to present events. In regard to future events, he writes that animals show the emotion of hope. ‘If a hawk spies a bird that is too far away it does not go after it, as though it had no hope of catching it. But if the prey be nearby it makes a try for it, as though it hoped to capture it.’ Aquinas argues that animals also possess an estimative sense, which is responsible for the continuity between non-human and human intelligence. By means of this sense an animal is able to synthesize and organise the images stored in the memory in order to act suitably in a given situation.

all-creatures.org/ca/ark-210-1.html
 
In short, don’t buy from KFC. They treat the animals poorly, and the food is disgusting rubbish that should not enter a human body.
First of all, KFC doesn’t raise their own chickens. They buy them from poultry producers, hundreds of them. Some are good, some are bad as with everything else. It is the same with Hormel, Oscar Meyer, etc… Tyson has a few farms but not very many in comparison to private producers
Yay!

Organizations like PETA are a good start.There are extremists everywhere.I understand that PETAs philosophy doesn’t go hand in hand with the precepts of the Catholic Church.But, they do make people aware of certain issues.
Some people would call me an extremist!Of course, I don’t think I am.
The ASPCA should be supported,too.
I am actually very excited about this sudden attention to animals.
I do not think that animals should be given the right to vote.That’s just plain absurd!And I don’t think that animals are people,too.But, they are a part of Gods creation.And we need to act like the stewards we have been called to be!
My children call me a “tree hugger” (laughingly) because of my love for animals.
From experience, (and I mean experience) PETA is NOT a good start. PETA breaks the law to get their evidence, has a very unrealistic idea of what law enforcement is able to do and how fast they can do it and are literly a pain in the behind. They want everyone to be vegitarian, eating no meat nor dairy products nor eggs. Many of their members are also pro-choice so how does this make sense.
If someone were to donate to an animal welfare organization I would have to suggest your local animal shelter, ASPCA, or Humane Society. If you can’t donate money, time, no matter how short, is always appreciated. Also encourage your shelter to be a “No Kill” shelter and you can always adopt or foster animals depending on the state you live in.

If one follows the Catechism of the Catholic Church recommendations, you can’t go wrong.
 
Bingo! - that is exactly what the Pope talks about
when he mentions the trappings of materialism and secularism.

No one really listens to the Pope, on this issue and a variety of others.

My animals have souls and are happy.
 
My children call me a “tree hugger” (laughingly) because of my love for animals.I’m atree hugging dirt worshipper for all my trouble
From experience, (and I mean experience) PETA is NOT
Exactly.👍
Too bad everyone just decides to pick and choose what they decide is right or wrong.Lots of lip service out there…
 
I’m atree hugging dirt worshipper for all my troubleagreed it’s not a good idea.But,I doubt seriously if the places they expose are going to willingly volunteer information any more than your local baby murdering abortion clinic
No, they aren’t going to volunteer the information but PETA still uses deceit and illegal or immoral means to get that information. Also PETA has a habit of putting the blame where it doesn’t belong, i.e. Hormel, KFC, etc instead of putting the blame on the people who actually commit the crimes.
I totally respect and support our police officers.But,they drag their behinds on certain calls as to which they think are more important than others.If you have any cop friends,ask them.
I work for the Sheriff’s office and I understand and see why they have to prioritize certain calls, life threatening verses say phone harassment or a dog barking (we get a lot of those) There are only so many officers who cover a lot of area and each investigation or interview takes time. I understand the victims side too, (I have been there too)I tend to try to look at the big picture, but most of the officers try to work in timely manner and try to do the best they can with their resourses.
I do not agree with their tactics.But,the issues need to be addressed and talk is cheap.I wish everyone were Vegan.But,I also know that the kingdom of God is not about eating and drinking.(Romans 14:17).Pro-choice is more than just babies,…it is ALL life.Period.
I agree that the issue needs to be brought to the attention of the public but there are the right way of doing it and the annoying way of doing it. PETA is just annoying. I even had the president of PETA call and literly had no concept of what a warrant was, bond, or any of the things I would have assumed she would be familiar with, considering…

If one follows the Catechism of the Catholic Church recommendations, you can’t go wrong
Exactly.👍
Too bad everyone just decides to pick and choose what they decide is right or wrong.Lots of lip service out there…
Agreed, lots of talk (mostly whining) very little action
 
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