Animals are more important than people

[generh55]

Are you suggesting this is avoidance behavior to the human condition?

Yes - that is a better way to say it.

 

[Marc_Anthony]

I wouldn’t call PETA terrorists either; simply because no-one is “terrorized” by them. there is no collective fear or change in public life resulting from their actions; at worst some have chosen not to wear fur where they might be active.

Some long-ago Soviet once said, “The purpose of terror is to terrify.” Nobody’s terrified of PETA.

ICXC NIKA.

I don’t think that’s strictly true. If you make an enemy, a true enemy, of PETA, you should be afraid. Unless you’re a large international and very rich corporation like KFC.

 

[Marc_Anthony]

I have no problem with good stewardship.

A leading animal rights leader claims that the earth should be limited to 300 million humans to leave room for the animals. Guess how he thinks we should accomplish this? Oh and by the way - they will be left standing.

That is extremist. While I hate the mstreatment of animals and support societies like the SPCA and other animal shelters, I don’t want anything like that to occur, of course.

 

[odile53]

Anybody else here ever notice that while the PETA folks throw paint on old ladies in fur coats, they never throw paint at bikers wearing black leather jackets?

 

[Newbie2]

I noticed something the other day on Idol or the Talent show. A little girl singer was advanced to the next round. She was asked what she would do with the money. She answered {paraphrasing) - she would give it to the animals.

Whatever happened to feed the poor?

Oh, come on! She’s TEN YEARS OLD. It’s not like she had time to prepare an answer either.

Chances are mom and dad wouldn’t let her spend it ***all ***on the animals, either.

Anybody else here ever notice that while the PETA folks throw paint on old ladies in fur coats, they never throw paint at bikers wearing black leather jackets?

How true. I’d like to just once see that happen. Apparently the cute and furry creatures need more protection than cows do, eh?

 

[buffalo]

Oh, come on! She’s TEN YEARS OLD. It’s not like she had time to prepare an answer either.

Oh come on? That is today’s politically correct answer. Where does a 10 year old learn a PC answer from?

And the audience thought the answer just great.

 

[JaneGrey]

Oh come on? That is today’s politically correct answer. Where does a 10 year old learn a PC answer from?

And the audience thought the answer just great.

Politically correct is not necessarily a bad thing.
Who is anyone to instruct anyone else on what cause to support? A good cause is a good cause. Do we accuse people who work with battered women and those with breast cancer of having no heart for abused children? One could even make an argument that less fortunate children require the help and charity more before women as the former is more vulnerable.
We all choose to support the causes we do for a variety for personal reasons.

The 10 year old could have said she was going to spend all the money on Barbies or costume jewellery. I would not have thought less of her if she said that, but she showed she was thinking of something other than herself. I dont want to put her on a pedestal but maybe as she grows up she d be more likely to grow up aware, and maybe also consider human charities.

 

[JaneGrey]

And worse.

They have also slaughtered animals by the thousands, yet noisily campaigned against aquariums serving fish in their cafeterias, likening it to cannibalism.

They are offensive and destructive. They do not do any of the dirty work in actually helping abused animals, the way Bide-a-Wee or other true humane organizations do.

Yes PETA are extremists but most well informed animal rightists/welfarists (whatever word is acceptable for these threads) do not support them. Many are misinformed about them.
I agree with some of their campaigns but their core philosophy and mission statement unsettles me. Plus they give the rest of us a bad name.

Thank you for introducing us to Bideawee. Have had a look at their website and they seem great.I ll make sure to inform my friends and family in the States of them.

 

[Sailor_Kenshin]

Politically correct is not necessarily a bad thing.
Who is anyone to instruct anyone else on what cause to support? A good cause is a good cause. Do we accuse people who work with battered women and those with breast cancer of having no heart for abused children? One could even make an argument that less fortunate children require the help and charity more before women as the former is more vulnerable.
We all choose to support the causes we do for a variety for personal reasons.

The 10 year old could have said she was going to spend all the money on Barbies or costume jewellery. I would not have thought less of her if she said that, but she showed she was thinking of something other than herself. I dont want to put her on a pedestal but maybe as she grows up she d be more likely to grow up aware, and maybe also consider human charities.

I won’t even call it ‘political correctness.’ It has evil in its heart. It exists only to quash free speech----but from one point of view only.

I can’t remember the names of other real humane organizations, but they do the true dirty work of rescuing abused animals—up to their elbows in dirt, dung, and disease.

That takes a special charism, to be sure.

 

[Marc_Anthony]

Politically correct is not necessarily a bad thing.
Who is anyone to instruct anyone else on what cause to support? A good cause is a good cause. Do we accuse people who work with battered women and those with breast cancer of having no heart for abused children? One could even make an argument that less fortunate children require the help and charity more before women as the former is more vulnerable.
We all choose to support the causes we do for a variety for personal reasons.

The 10 year old could have said she was going to spend all the money on Barbies or costume jewellery. I would not have thought less of her if she said that, but she showed she was thinking of something other than herself. I dont want to put her on a pedestal but maybe as she grows up she d be more likely to grow up aware, and maybe also consider human charities.

Exactly.

I honestly can’t believe you think it’s a bad thing that a child wants to donate to acharities that help abused animals.

 

[MrAkirafication]

 

[Dale_M]

Anybody else here ever notice that while the PETA folks throw paint on old ladies in fur coats, they never throw paint at bikers wearing black leather jackets?

Good point! On the other hand, one of their more famous exploits concerned the 40-something editor of Vogue magazine. While she was dining at the Four Seasons restaurant in New York City back in 1996, three PETA protesters approached her table and threw a dead raccoon into her soup.

Ms. Wintour, to her credit, calmly motioned to the waiter and asked for coffee, please.

 

[buffalo]

Exactly.

I honestly can’t believe you think it’s a bad thing that a child wants to donate to acharities that help abused animals.

The point I was making is that this has penetrated deeply into the American psyche that children are now carrying the flag. Contrast this to say 20, 30, 50 and 100 years ago.

And the next question, how far do we want this to go and at what expense?

 

[GEddie]

The point I was making is that this has penetrated deeply into the American psyche that children are now carrying the flag. Contrast this to say 20, 30, 50 and 100 years ago.

The difference is, IMNAAHO, that children today are potentially so sheltered that they understand animal need before human need.

This may also have been the case in 1980, but definitely not 1910.

And the next question, how far do we want this to go and at what expense?

Barring a mass repentance, it will go on; and the expense will be human life itself, in the special place GOD intended.

ICXC NIKA.

 

[Newbie2]

The point I was making is that this has penetrated deeply into the American psyche that children are now carrying the flag. Contrast this to say 20, 30, 50 and 100 years ago.

You could give her a little credit for not saying something selfish on the spur of the moment. You might disagree, but I don’t sense any great conspiracy here.

 

[miniquedoes]

In my city, they are working so hard to make animal shelters “no kill shelters.” Wish they could do that for actual humans

 

[Sailor_Kenshin]

In my city, they are working so hard to make animal shelters “no kill shelters.” Wish they could do that for actual humans

Amen.

Again, there is something deeply wrong about a society that values animal life over human.

 

[Rence]

Anybody else here ever notice that while the PETA folks throw paint on old ladies in fur coats, they never throw paint at bikers wearing black leather jackets?

Because the whole animal is used, not just the hide or the fur. It’s a complete waste to kill an animal for its hide and throw the rest of the animal away like it’s garbage. When the leather is taken, the meat is also taken. There is very little waste. At least that’s one way to answer your question.

 

[Rence]

In my city, they are working so hard to make animal shelters “no kill shelters.” Wish they could do that for actual humans

I have yet to see a “kill shelter” for humans There are no shelters for humans that will put them down after 7 days of being there.

 

[Verbum_Caro]

Having people call for physical violence towards the young woman who threw the puppies in the river, or anyone else who abuses animals, is a positive thing in my opinion. I support that. I hope these people get their hands on her.

Rence,

What is it exactly that you support? If “these people” get their hand on her it would mean a mob tracks her down and brutalizes her. You don’t mean that, do you?

VC