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**And this is one of the MOST frustrating things **- I think that people reading such obsenity will think this is how all Americans think - or when someone on a Catholic Answer site defends such vile communication, other Catholics, non-Catholics, non-Christians will think this is the way all Catholics think… it doesn’t speak well for our country or our faith.
Context matters though. We are plain-spoken (even kind of exaggerators) by nature and have a whole culture adapted to that trait. In the past three decades most of us have been made dizzy and numb from a confusing, broad, facelss campaign to teach us to use fifteen-syllable words to avoid accidentally offending people while we aren’t allowed to know what we said that offended them or even whom we offended.:confused: This is a technique to make it harder to think and as we slowly awoke and realized we had been manipulated and needed to get our bearings we found that saying anything, however innocuous, in plain English was suddenly a legally actioanble offense under random, unpredictable circumstances. That might go over in some places but not here. The confusion, frustration and suspicion this brought about means we have lived in a dark haze of forbidden, repressed emotions which we wouldn’t have ever thought of having in our lives if it weren’t for the years of public mind manipulation we just went through. Of course, if we say, “What is this petition for?”, no matter how innocently, we are met with a blast of rage and vague loaded questions: “Isn’t love worth something? Do you have to hate everyone? Why must we reject all that’s beautiful?” until a crowd starts to form. Even saying, “I’m on my way to church, where are you going?” can be an opener to an emotional dragging-over-the-coals that just wouldn’t have happened back when people conversed by asking and answering factual questions.
So, the extreme rudeness of some media is like the cold wind that blows the smoke out of the room – of course it’s a shock, but what a relief to change the air once in a while. Hardly anyone who reads Ann Coulter takes comments about raping the earth literally. It’s a relief to hear someone not be afraid to be accused of saying it. To actually go ahead and say something we’re so often accused falsely of saying as an intimidation tactic to silence us, takes the power of insinuation away from the false accusers.
 
Context matters though. We are plain-spoken (even kind of exaggerators) by nature and have a whole culture adapted to that trait. In the past three decades most of us have been made dizzy and numb from a confusing, broad, facelss campaign to teach us to use fifteen-syllable words to avoid accidentally offending people while we aren’t allowed to know what we said that offended them or even whom we offended.:confused:
I’ve found the move to civil speech to be in the vein of charity - you may not be offended to be called something because it holds no power of history for you or your family - however the use of racial, cultural, gender slurs are used to offend, and if you find that you are confused as to what and why things are offensive you might consider getting into a dialogue with those who find it offensive, taking the unique position of openness to a discussion can really help both sides of this issue.
This is a technique to make it harder to think and as we slowly awoke and realized we had been manipulated and needed to get our bearings we found that saying anything, however innocuous, in plain English was suddenly a legally actioanble offense under random, unpredictable circumstances. That might go over in some places but not here. The confusion, frustration and suspicion this brought about means we have lived in a dark haze of forbidden, repressed emotions which we wouldn’t have ever thought of having in our lives if it weren’t for the years of public mind manipulation we just went through.
Sorry… I have no idea what this references.
Of course, if we say, “What is this petition for?”, no matter how innocently, we are met with a blast of rage and vague loaded questions: “Isn’t love worth something? Do you have to hate everyone? Why must we reject all that’s beautiful?” until a crowd starts to form. Even saying, “I’m on my way to church, where are you going?” can be an opener to an emotional dragging-over-the-coals that just wouldn’t have happened back when people conversed by asking and answering factual questions.
I’m sure that there is a story associated with this, and I am sorry if someone was rude to you, not following what this has to do with Ann Coulter?
So, the extreme rudeness of some media is like the cold wind that blows the smoke out of the room – of course it’s a shock, but what a relief to change the air once in a while. Hardly anyone who reads Ann Coulter takes comments about raping the earth literally. It’s a relief to hear someone not be afraid to be accused of saying it. To actually go ahead and say something we’re so often accused falsely of saying as an intimidation tactic to silence us, takes the power of insinuation away from the false accusers.
If you find Coulter’s rhetoric refreshing, I would certainly NOT agree ---- I think that the venomous tone is actually destructive to the image of Christians, to the image of all who are pro-life. Perhaps those who are ‘in on the joke’ don’t take offense, but many do - many Catholics, many Christians, and more disturbing non-Catholics - non-Christians take this kind of ‘smoke blowing’ as representing what we profess -
 
I’ve found the move to civil speech to be in the vein of charity - you may not be offended to be called something because it holds no power of history for you or your family - however the use of racial, cultural, gender slurs are used to offend, and if you find that you are confused as to what and why things are offensive you might consider getting into a dialogue with those who find it offensive, taking the unique position of openness to a discussion can really help both sides of this issue.
We discussed it for many, many hours, until the move from “let’s learn to be sensitive (which everyone was all for)” to “if someone gets control of the discussion anyone who fails to shout agreement first and loudest will be slandered and harried indefinitely until that person chooses the next victim” was complete in 1993 or 1994, around here. Dialogue was exactly what we who were blindsided by all this were pleading for the whole time. The things we could be attacked for saying ranged from “The car in this picture is a classic,” to “I suppose I’ll just have to study hard and I’ll pass,” to “Should I wipe the blackboard?” And some I still have no clue what the person who was attacked said. It could have been anything at all.
On our first day of required multicultural ed, two young men tried to raise a logical discussion of the role of common culture in American history – apparently hoping for analytical discussion – and the teacher emotionally hounded them until they had to leave the class. After that we sat watching all term waiting for signals to what emotions we were to show never knowing what the content was. I was the main one trying to ingratiate myself to the teacher and her favorites and also introduce real dialogue, not disagreement, just some kind of factual content instead of raw emotion, even if only to find out what the emotional language referred to.:confused:
I’m sure that there is a story associated with this, and I am sorry if someone was rude to you, not following what this has to do with Ann Coulter?
There are many thousands of stories of which these are examples, and it has to do with Ann Coulter because her appeal is that she isn’t emotionally intimidated. If someone genuinely feels injured when soemone won’t sign a petition without reading it first or wants to ask what a teacher is talking about or says “I’m going to Safeway” instead of whatever we’re supposed to say this month, well, please explain why instead of using intimidation.🤷
I lived as an adopted adult with an African-American family to whom I owe a lot, and with whom I managed to achieve dialogue because they wanted dialogue too. They didn’t talk campusese. I could actually ask questions: “Is it really harder?”
“Well, it’s harder driving, because you get stopped more and it’s insulting.”
“Oh. Sorry to hear that.” That’s dialogue, and plain English fostered it for us.
 
We discussed it for many, many hours, until the move from “let’s learn to be sensitive (which everyone was all for)” to “if someone gets control of the discussion anyone who fails to shout agreement first and loudest will be slandered and harried indefinitely until that person chooses the next victim” was complete in 1993 or 1994, around here. Dialogue was exactly what we who were blindsided by all this were pleading for the whole time. The things we could be attacked for saying ranged from “The car in this picture is a classic,” to “I suppose I’ll just have to study hard and I’ll pass,” to “Should I wipe the blackboard?” And some I still have no clue what the person who was attacked said. It could have been anything at all.
On our first day of required multicultural ed, two young men tried to raise a logical discussion of the role of common culture in American history – apparently hoping for analytical discussion – and the teacher emotionally hounded them until they had to leave the class. After that we sat watching all term waiting for signals to what emotions we were to show never knowing what the content was. I was the main one trying to ingratiate myself to the teacher and her favorites and also introduce real dialogue, not disagreement, just some kind of factual content instead of raw emotion, even if only to find out what the emotional language referred to.:confused:

There are many thousands of stories of which these are examples, and it has to do with Ann Coulter because her appeal is that she isn’t emotionally intimidated. If someone genuinely feels injured when soemone won’t sign a petition without reading it first or wants to ask what a teacher is talking about or says “I’m going to Safeway” instead of whatever we’re supposed to say this month, well, please explain why instead of using intimidation.🤷
I lived as an adopted adult with an African-American family to whom I owe a lot, and with whom I managed to achieve dialogue because they wanted dialogue too. They didn’t talk campusese. I could actually ask questions: “Is it really harder?”
“Well, it’s harder driving, because you get stopped more and it’s insulting.”
“Oh. Sorry to hear that.” That’s dialogue, and plain English fostered it for us.
Wow your experience was awful - but isn’t it fantastic that with your adopted family you’ve been able to have this important discussion that led to your ability to understand each other…

Ann Coulter may not be emotional intimidated - but she works to intimidate others with her offensive rhetoric - it is as offensive as that teacher you had, only because it impacts a larger ‘class room’ it has the potential to do more damage.
 
weanies… I’m surrounded by weanies…🤷 :rolleyes:
distracted Ellen, just a heads up: this is not an ad hominem attack–I just want you to know that you misspelled this anatomy part wrong–it is spelled wienie, or plural wienies.

Peace & Love to you, sister! (And to your female companion, Ann)
 
Wow your experience was awful - but isn’t it fantastic that with your adopted family you’ve been able to have this important discussion that led to your ability to understand each other…

Ann Coulter may not be emotional intimidated - but she works to intimidate others with her offensive rhetoric - it is as offensive as that teacher you had, only because it impacts a larger ‘class room’ it has the potential to do more damage.
It’s not mainly about race where I live, it’s more about the meaning of gender (the PC answer is that we each have a built-in responsibility and need to create our own genders), adulthood/childhood (the contradictions in the PC version of this are so thick it gives me a sour stomach just to try to sort through them, but that is no reprieve from having to remember to call sixth-grade girls “young women” and also scowl visibly at any sign of a suggestion that teenagers get after-school jobs or that they ever be held responsible for crimes they commit):hypno:. It touches on animal rights (there are the ones who feel that people shouldn’t eat honey because it exploits bees, and those who find it horrible to own a pet), sexuality (what is currently “natural and healthy” and what isn’t is a real task to keep track of), social structures (someone I know was complaining that people she had once intellectually respected and trusted had copped out by having children and getting jobs), consumption (there are people who will stop you on the sidewalk in clusters to demand an account of what you are eating or whether you are wearing leather), sexism (and the dreaded Dead White Male literature, to be read only as a prelude to denouncing its assumptions and heterosexist languaging structures), economics (opposing a new entitlement program is always dangerous no matter how wasteful or socially destructive it may be), religion (mention God or say you’re going to church in most public places near me and see the socially dominant people in earshot act as if you’d told a sick joke to their great-grandmothers)… it’s not just one class.
It began with the colleges and universities in the late 80’s and early 90’s; soon the same tactics invaded buses and bus stops, restaurants and bars, office lunch rooms, sidewalks in front of stores, libraries, community bulletin boards, editorial pages, laundries, lines at grocery stores and the magazine covers by the till. It’s high schools and middle schools now. It’s sitcoms, talk shows and celebrity gossip news. Escape is impossible.
If it were just exposure to different opinions, it wouldn’t bother me at all. But more and more people are screaming under the pressure of constant insinuations that all thoughts that would have been possible in 1984 or 1985 are now unmutual.
That’s why it never occurred to me to see Miss Coulter as intimidating others. I never saw dissidents as having the power to intimidate anyone. It gives me something new to think about. I appreciate the insight. Maybe there is a way out there of resisting with just enough boldness and not too much.
 
***Unfortunately, **her books, and her cable news commentary don’t come with a disclaimer - ‘don’t take this seriously - this isn’t really how American Christians believe we should be represented’ *
That’s why I’m spreading the word here on this message-board, for the benefit of the unenlightened. 😉
 
One of the intimidation tactics the PC police use in the unpredictability of the new rules and the forms of enforcement. That’s why I found Miss Coulter so refreshing when I first discovered her; she treats them as a bunch of totally predictable regular people there is no reason to fear. Saying you’re going to church can be met, at different times, by anything from “That’s nice” to “So, you mean you’re looking for a faith community that helps you get in touch with your true self?” (no, I mean I’m going to church) to “:mad::rolleyes:ohhh… well, I think it’s OK if it makes you feel part of something bigger than yourself as long as you keep it in perspective and don’t become one of those hateful people” to “:mad::bigyikes: Why did you stop thinking? Why do you go to church? Why are you oppressing people? Why do you want to force your beliefs on everyone? Listen to me – just listen to me! – you’re responsible for every war that ever happened!” on and on and on while you walk away to get to church on time. The fact that the same person could react in any of these ways is designed to make it hard to know what to prepare for, so we will come off hard and detached, and yet be unprepared when they bully us at the same time.
 
Thanks for finding some of these lovely reflections of the ‘Christian’ way in which this women communicates - it is an embarrassment to women, to people of faith, to Americans. 👍
i could mention other women who are an embarrassment… but uh…

i won’t…
 
And you have made it clear, Ellen, that you do not care for that part of the anatomy and that you prefer women, and specifically Ann–whom I’m sure does not return your ardor.
whats this Ellen stuff??

as for the rest of this post… not worthy…
 
one time i read this poll… where women were asked what they most are attracted to in men…

sense of humor was either 1 or 2 on the list…
 
**And this is one of the MOST frustrating things **- I think that people reading such obsenity will think this is how all Americans think - or when someone on a Catholic Answer site defends such vile communication, other Catholics, non-Catholics, non-Christians will think this is the way all Catholics think… it doesn’t speak well for our country or our faith.
but your ceaseless judgmentalisms are so wonderful…

not obscene at all…
 
Well it wouldn’t be controversial if everyone agreed with it. I think her style of verbal bomb-throwing appeals to people who feel, rightly or wrongly, oppressed by liberal political correctness in the media, schools, polite society, etc. But it’s characteristic of her to go beyond the pale and for the jugular.
but umm…

uh… whatever happened to that… i have this vague memory of something i heard in childhood…

something about sticks and stones not breaking bones or something like that… :confused:
 
But then we do have the pure example of American Christian, er hmm ‘Catholic’ like those who might well be the proper example of the Catholic Faith such as Pelosi, Kennedy, Kerry, Reid, and so on. And might we be better Catholics if we give out awards to those who not only advocate for abortion but provide the funding under government auspices to pay for them.
Oh dear where did I ever get the idea that perhaps I might be wrong if I do not follow their example and become a proper Catholic liberal hypocrite.
😃

i guess some “Catholics” are too busy attacking pro-life Ann Coulter to attack the ones who promote abortion…

hmmm… seems they forget that ***promoting aborton is an excommunicatable offense…***but then, i doubt everyone on CAF who calls themselves Catholic is remotely Catholic…

do they think they have to claim to be CAtholic to be allowed on the forums?

Hellllllllllllooooooooooooooo…!!!

you CAN be another religion here @ CAF… you really don’t have to claim to be Catholic…

really…
 
She’s so far to the right, she’s on the shoulder and very close to the ditch!! The hatred just oozes from her! She’s in my prayers…(I promise I’ll try) :getholy:
well, hatred is like another related issue: racism

those who see ***racism!!! *** everywhere are probably more racist than those who don’t…
 
*** In the past three decades most of us have been made dizzy and numb from a confusing, broad, facelss campaign to teach us to use fifteen-syllable words to avoid accidentally offending people ***

while we aren’t allowed to know what we said that offended them or even whom we offended.:confused: ***This is a technique to make it harder to think ***

and as we slowly awoke and realized we had been manipulated and needed to get our bearings we found that saying anything, however innocuous, in plain English was suddenly a legally actioanble offense under random, unpredictable circumstances. That might go over in some places but not here.

The confusion, frustration and suspicion this brought about means we have lived in a dark haze of forbidden, repressed emotions which we wouldn’t have ever thought of having in our lives if it weren’t for the years of public mind manipulation we just went through. Of course, if we say, “What is this petition for?”, no matter how innocently, we are met with a blast of rage and vague loaded questions: "Isn’t love worth something? Do you have to hate everyone?

Why must we reject all that’s beautiful?" until a crowd starts to form. Even saying, “I’m on my way to church, where are you going?” can be an opener to an emotional dragging-over-the-coals that just wouldn’t have happened back when people conversed by asking and answering factual questions.

***So, the extreme rudeness of some media is like the cold wind that blows the smoke out of the room ***–

of course it’s a shock, but what a relief to change the air once in a while. Hardly anyone who reads Ann Coulter takes comments about raping the earth literally. It’s a relief to hear someone not be afraid to be accused of saying it.

To actually go ahead and say something we’re so often accused falsely of saying as an intimidation tactic to silence us, takes the power of insinuation away from the false accusers.
:extrahappy::dancing::clapping::tiphat:

As Ronald Reagan said:

Don’t be afraid to see what you see.
 
k that the venomous tone is actually destructive to the image of Christians, to the image of all who are pro-life. Perhaps those who are ‘in on the joke’ don’t take offense, but many do - many Catholics, many Christians, and more disturbing non-Catholics - non-Christians take this kind of ‘smoke blowing’ as representing what we profess -
um…

in case you haven’t noticed, NICE Christians don’t get anywhere either…

people take kindness for weakness…

(people who have no integrity, that is)
 
distracted Ellen, just a heads up: this is not an ad hominem attack–I just want you to know that you misspelled this anatomy part wrong–it is spelled wienie, or plural wienies.

Peace & Love to you, sister! (And to your female companion, Ann)
must be nice to have a life…
 
Ann Coulter on the Iraq war, April 17, 2003:

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In 1985, Muslim terrorists hijacked the Italian cruise ship Achille Lauro and threatened to kill the passengers and crew unless fifty imprisoned Palestinians were relesed by Israel. The terrorists doused American and British women with gasoline and taunted them with matches. They forced passengers to hold live grenades. When their demands were not met, the terrorists shot a wheelchair-bound American, Leon Klinghoffer, and forced other passengers at gunpoint to throw him overboard in his wheelchair.

… the Italian and Egyptian governments made a deal with the terrorists, offering the release of the Palestinians and safe passage to Tunisia !] to end the ordeal. The Americans were not… pleased.

So Oliver North conceived of an operation to get the terrorists back. North found out the terrorists were still [in Egypt] Working with Israeli intelligence, North ascertained the precise EgyptAir flight that would carry the terrorists out of Egypt. He devised a plan to intercept the plane, modeled on the military’s interception of Yamamoto, mastermind of Pearl Harbor [WWII].

President Reagan was briefed on the daring plan - along with copious warnings from timorous State Department officials that the Europeans might have their feelings [hurt], America would look like a cowboy, and it would only strengthen the hard-hardliners in Egypt. Asked if the operation should proceed, Reagan said, “***Good God! They’ve murdered an American here. Let’s get on with it.” ***

Admiral Frank Kelso, the officer in charge of America’s Sixth Fleet in the Mediterranean, ordered his men to carry out the mission. In no time flat, Tomcat fighters had taken off from the U.S. aircraft carrier Saratoga. Guided by Hawkeyes, the Tomcats caught up with the EgyptAir flight. The fighters stealthily trailed their target in total darkness, their lights off, even in the cockpit. The American pilots flew so close to the EgyptAir flight, they used flashlights to read the plane’s tail number. Then the Tomcats swooped in, surrounded the EgyptAir flight, and forced it to fly to a NATO base on Sicily controlled by the United States. The New York Post headline the next day was, “GOT EM.” And then Abul Abbas was released by the Europeans and given safe haven to Iraq under Saddam Husssein - whom liberals have assured us was not harboring terrorists. Republicans keep catching terrorists and liberals keep sending them back. If there is a parable of how liberals support the enemy, this is it. Admiral Kelso, whose men carried out the dauntless EgyptAir interception, was cashiered out of the navy because of Tailhook…

To jog the memory of the horror that was Tailhook, Lieutenant Paul Coughlin, the officer who made the most lurid allegations, accused a lack Marine of molesting her. But she kept identifying different lack males as the perpetrator. Liberals managed to put their concern for racist accusations against lacks on the back burner in this case. (When liberals get going, the ironies never end.) Though Admiral Kelso was cleared of any wrongdoing after an official navy investigation, liberals still wanted him punished. Former representative Patricia Schroeder… engaged in a hysterical witchhunt of Kelso, marching with her fellow termagants to the Senate to demand that their colleagues deny Kelso retirement with four stars. The New York Times editorialized against Kelso.

The Left’s relentless attacks on Oliver North hardly require elaboration. He was investigated, charged with a crime, indicted by Lawrence Walsh, and his Senate campaign was destroyed. Al Gore compared North’s supporters to Down yndrome children. Now Democrats are demanding that Europeans be let into Iraq so they can release some more terrorists, while liberals do their part at home, carving up the colonels and admirals who capture the people who murder Americans.

“The Plan” [for the war in Iraq] (Nov 2003)

The Democrats’ new method of opposing the war on terrorism while pretending not to oppose the war on terrorism is to keep demanding that Bush produce a “plan”. Senator John Kerry said the difference in how he would have prosecuted the war in Iraq is: “I would have planned.” Yes, the invasion of Iraq was the usual unplanned, spur-of-the-minute thing that took eighteen months of discussion

[Coulter lists numerous Democrats’ complaints against the president in this matter of a “plan”]… The Democrats’ incessant demand for a “plan” tends to suggest there is something called “The Plan” which would magically prevent bad things from ever happening - especially something as totally unexpected as violence in the Middle East. Violence in the Middle East constantly comes as a bolt out of the blue to liberals. We’re at war with Islamic lunatics. They enjoy blowing things up and killing people. What further insights do liberals have to impart about this war? Bush said deposing Saddam Hussein and building a democracy in Iraq was an essential part of the war on terrorism. He did not say that invading Iraq would instantly end all Muslim violence and rainy days that make liberals blue… [F]ewer troops have been killed by hostile fire since the end of major combat in Iraq than civilians were murdered in Washington, D.C last year (239 deaths in Iraq compared with 262 murders in the U.S. capital)… How long before we just give up and pull out of that hellish quagmire known as Washington, D.C.?😃

*** The Democrats’ conception of a “plan” is like the liberal fantasy that there’s a room somewhere full of unlimited amounts of “free” money that we could just give to teachers and hospitals and poor people and AIDS sufferers and the homeless, if only the bad, greedy Republicans would give us the key to that wonderful room. Republicans should claim the [Iraq war] “plan” is in that room, in lockbox.***

It’s interesting that after we’ve finally gotten liberals to give up on seven decades of trying to plan an economy, now they want to plan a war…

*** Needless to say, the Democrats have no actual plan of their own, unless “surrender” counts as a plan. ***

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