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Why does being liberal or conservative affect anything that’s being said about Coulter’s ways? I don’t have to be on one side or the other to point out that what she is doing is WRONG.
 
Oh, did you puposely leave out the great presidents such as Lincoln and Reagan who happened to be Republicans?
He missed Lincoln, because its tough to call Lincoln a conservative or a liberal; his preoccupation was really with winning the Civil War and ending slavery. If one believes that Roosevelt-Roosevelt-Truman-Kennedy-Johnson style liberalism is good, they aren’t very likely to count Ronald Reagan as a great president. And, his list was not exclusively Republican or Democrat, as Teddy Roosevelt, while a liberal and a Progressive (and a Bull-Moose), was also a Republican.
 
Oh, did you puposely leave out the great presidents such as Lincoln and Reagan who happened to be Republicans?
I did overlook Mr. Lincoln and for that I apologize. One of my favorite Presidents. Every single day of his Presidency was unparalleled crisis while he had to deal with an unbalanced wife, the death of his son, and his own chronic depression. Truly what a man. Oh, and a progressive by the political standards of his time.

As for Reagan. My mother taught me that if one can’t say anything nice…😃
 
good question…

if you believe in abortion, i won’t respond to your posts any more… i don’t deal with those who believe its OK to kill a defenseless helpless child in its mother’s womb… there because of HEr and the man she slept with… totally innocent…

if it weren’t for the issue of abortion i wouldn’t be so … “not lukewarm” about liberals…
It’s immaterial to me how you feel about abortions or whether you respond to anyone’s posts. That’s entirely up to you.

No, I do not “believe” in abortion (any more than I “believe” in racism and poverty, i.e. that they do exist.) I’ve never advised any family member or friend to have an abortion, never taken a woman to a clinic to procure an abortion, and I would advise a woman who asked me for it to seek more humane alternatives. And whether you agree or disagree with me on that is also quite immaterial.
 
are you afraid to admit you’re a liberal??
No, I’m unwilling to take on a label which can mean a lot of things.

Celticsfan’s list of political positions is pretty much mine as well.

The fact that you are so obsessed with the label “liberal” is itself evidence for the amoral effect of Ms. Coulter on your thinking. You have a handy word that sums up a lot of stuff you don’t like, and you want to slap it on people without taking the trouble to find out what they believe and why. That is not virtuous in either a pagan or a Christian sense.

Edwin
 
Has she ever repented for her abominable remarks? Has she explained that she was speaking irrationally out of her grief and anger, and that in a cooler moment she recognizes that what she said was indefensible?
Edwin
it’s a free country. She can say what she wants… If you don’t like it, you don’t have to listen…

or comment on CAF about it…

i rarely apologize for anything i say… unless i know that i have said something out of line… which usually happens only when i am upset…

maybe she doesn’t feel she has said anthing out of line… If she speaks her mind, i say it is not out of line and if someone else thinks it is … oh well…

God is her judge… no one else…

And whatever happened to that saying about how words cannot hurt me?

freedom of speech is an absolute assurance that someone is going to get his feelings hurt…
 
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The fact that you are so obsessed with the label “liberal” is itself evidence for the amoral effect of Ms. Coulter on your thinking. Edwin
shows what you know…

i thought & felt exactly the way Coulter does long before i read Coulter Book One…
 
Fine then. Distracted, I don’t want to EVER see you post about being upset by ANY comment any person makes, no matter how terrible it is. Since you think that people are entitled to say whatever they want.

You talk about freedom of speech…Man’s ammendments aren’t the same as God’s commandments.
 
It’s immaterial to me how you feel about abortions or whether you respond to anyone’s posts. That’s entirely up to you.

No, I do not “believe” in abortion (any more than I “believe” in racism and poverty, i.e. that they do exist.) I’ve never advised any family member or friend to have an abortion, never taken a woman to a clinic to procure an abortion, and I would advise a woman who asked me for it to seek more humane alternatives. And whether you agree or disagree with me on that is also quite immaterial.
well, seems to me that if someone were really THAT pro-life, it wouldn’t take 50 posts on an Ann Coulter thread to convicne someone…

just hope you are not - in any OTHER way promoting abortion…

Even mere Apathy about abortion promotes abortion…
 
Fine then. Distracted, I don’t want to EVER see you post about being upset by ANY comment any person makes, no matter how terrible it is. Since you think that people are entitled to say whatever they want.

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gee, you don’t believe in contradicting yourself, do you?
 
well, seems to me that if someone were really THAT pro-life, it wouldn’t take 50 posts on an Ann Coulter thread to convicne someone…

just hope you are not - in any OTHER way promoting abortion…

Even mere Apathy about abortion promotes abortion…
Abortion doesn’t really have to do with any of this debate. Saying stupid, uncharitable and un-Christian things are. Where do you get the idea that, because someone can’t stan Ann Coulter, that they promote abortion?
 
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As for Reagan. My mother taught me that if one can’t say anything nice…😃
Dear Reagan (hopefully in Heaven but even if in Purgatory): Please come to us and help us in our time of need… whisper some words of wisdom in BHO’s ear…

please do something!!!
 
Abortion doesn’t really have to do with any of this debate. Saying stupid, uncharitable and un-Christian things are. Where do you get the idea that, because someone can’t stan Ann Coulter, that they promote abortion?
Jesus:

Whoever is not against us is for us.
 
I think the thing that is dividing us is that, yes, we agree with Ann Coulter on abortion. It’s a terrible thing to do. Probably the most awful thing ever created.

But there’s a right way and a wrong way on standing up against it. Coulter’s hatred only inspires bickering and more hatred. There’s better ways to defend the unborn instead of blowing smoke. Her ways only create an even bigger wedge, a wedge that needs to be removed before any real change can be made.

I hope you can see our point, that Coulter is only doing the rest of us who share her beliefs a huge disservice.

But please don’t hide behind the whole, ‘It’s just humor,’ excuse. If someone attacked you and your family, but hid behind the “humor” label, it wouldn’t excuse anything. Even in humor, it’s possible for things to still be reprehensible, and a bad representation of a Christian. And if she truly wants to be Christlike, she wouldn’t make statements that intentionally antagonize people, EVEN IF the other side is doing it. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

And distracted, am I liberal? I despise abortions, no matter the reasoning. I stand firmly against the death penalty, I think the Iraq War was a bad decision, I stand against homosexual marriage, i wouldn’t raise a stink if marijuana was legalized, and I can’t stand Rush Limbaugh, Alan Colmes, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Keith Olbermann, Bill O’Reilly, and Ann. Your call.
well, we can certainly tell YOU have a lot of charity in your heart…
 
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Ann Coulter quote for the day:

An extensive study conducted by professors at Smith college and George Washington University confirmed that most liberals exhibit “narcissistic pathology” marked by “grandiosity, envy, a lack of empathy, illusion of personal perfection, and a sense of entitlement.” Liberals are twice as likely to value being popular as conservatives.

So if you’ve ever wondered, “Does Barack Obama ever get bored with all those fawning profiles?,” the answer is: No, liberals never tire of being praised for every desirable human attribute known to man, not least of which is their mind-boggling courage in the face of endless praise. When Obama materialized, the media were seized by a mass psychoses that hadn’t been witnessed since Beatlemania. OK magazine raved that the Obamas “are such an all-American family that they almost make the Brady Bunch look dysfunctional.” Yes, who can forget the madcap episode when the Bradys’ wacky preacher tells them the government created AIDS to kill Blacks! Still gushing, OK magazine’s crack journalists reported, “Mom goes to bake sales, Dad balances the checkbook, and the girls love Harry Potter” - and then the whole family goes to a racist huckster bellowing, “God d— America!

😃
 
Abortion doesn’t really have to do with any of this debate. Saying stupid, uncharitable and un-Christian things are. Where do you get the idea that, because someone can’t stan Ann Coulter, that they promote abortion?
The fact you are a celtics fan is more than enough to let us know you follow evil incarnate!😃
 
. Where do you get the idea that, because someone can’t stan Ann Coulter, that they promote abortion?
Where do you get the idea that, because someone can’t stan [sic] Ann Coulter, that they are any more charitable than [you say] Ann Coulter is?
 
Coulter (How to Talk to a Liberal…), on the Iraqi War (and etc) - emphasis mine [May 25, 2004]:

Abu Ghraib is the new Tet offensive. By lying about the Tet offensive during the Vietnam War, the media managed to persuade Americans we were losing the war, which demoralized the nation and caused us to lose the war. And people say reporters are* lazy*.

The immediate consequence of the media’s lies about the Tet offensive was a 25 percent drop in support for the war. The long-term consequence for America was twelve years in the desert until Ronald Reagan came in and saved the country… America may not be able to wait out twelve years of Democrat pusillanimity now that we’re dealing with Islamic lunatics who slaughter civilians in suicide missions while chanting “Allah Akbar!”

And yet the constant drumbeat of failure, quagmire, Abu Ghraib, Bush-lied-kids-died has been so successful that merely to say the war in Iraq is going well provokes laughter. The distortions have become so pervasive that Michael Moore teeters on the brink of being considered a reliable source. 😃

We have liberated the Iraqi people from a brutal dictator who gassed his own people, had weapons of mass destruction, invaded his neighbors, harbored terrorists, funded terrorists, and had reached out to … bin Laden.

So far, we have found chemical and biological weapons - brucella and congo-Crimean hemorrhagic fever, ricin, sarin, aflatoxin - and long-range missles in Iraq… The entire Kurdish region - one-third of the country - is patrolled by about three hundred American trooops, which is fewer than it takes to patrol the Kennedy compound in Palm Beach on Easter weekends.

But the media tells us this means we’re losing. The goalpost of success keeps shifting as we stack up a string of victories. Before the war, New York Times columnist Nichols Kristof warned that the war… would be a nightmare: “We won’t kill Saddam, trigger a coup or wipe out his Republican Guard forces.”

We’ve done all that! How incredibly lucky. 😃

Kristof… said, “Our last experience with street-street fighting was confronting untrained thugs in Mogadishu, Somalia. This time we’re taking on an army with possible bio- and chemical weapons, 400,000 regular army troops and supposedly seven milliion more in Al Quds militia”

And yet, somehow, our boys defeated them in just a few weeks! Incredibly lucky again!

:clapping::clapping::dancing::dancing:

… Now we’re fighting directly with Islamic loonies crawling out of their ratholes from around the entire region - which liberals also said wouldn’t happen…
 
Jesus:

Whoever is not against us is for us.
But Ann Coulter is against Jesus on many grounds. It just happens that abortion is not one of them!

How do you justify reducing Christianity to opposition to abortion? I agree that this is a very important issue, but it’s not the sum and substance of the Christian faith or even just of Christian ethics.

Edwin
 
Where do you get the idea that, because someone can’t stan [sic] Ann Coulter, that they are any more charitable than [you say] Ann Coulter is?
No one got this idea. You’re not being logical. No one is claiming to be more charitable than Ann Coulter, in the first place (our charity is not the point under discussion–I will let God decide whether I’m as uncharitable as Ann Coulter, though certainly one of my goals is not to be like her in that respect). And in the second place, “not standing Ann Coulter” is not in itself a sign of any virtue. There are plenty of vicious as well as virtuous reasons to dislike her. However, admiring the vicious things Ann Coulter says *is *a sign of poor judgment at the very least.

Edwin
 
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