Anne Catherine Emmerich vs protestantization

[pnewton]

Who is Clemens Brentano and what does he have to do with ecumenism?

He was a German poet and novelist who was the one who first wrote the quote above in the original post.

 

[fred_conty]

When some Protestants say, “I take Jesus as my personal Lord and Saviour”
they mean that this replaces Baptism, being born into God’s kingdom. And to others it means that once saved always saved. And they usually say this at the altar call.

Catholics on the other hand mean by this “I take the person of Jesus as my Lord and Saviour.” And this is accomplished in Baptism, being born again into the Kingdom of Christ. In which we take Jesus and reject the devil.

When Catholcs say “I take Jesus as my personal Lord and Saviour” we do it each time we receive him at an altar call in Holy Communion. And we also say “we take Jesus as our personal Lord and Saviour” for Holy Communion unites us as one body in Christ.

 

[thistle]

Personally, I do not believe the writings of Anne Emmerich.

 

[asia53]

Personally, I do not believe the writings of Anne Emmerich.

I agree. There is a serious question of authenticity .

From EWTN:

In 1892, well after her death, her Cause for Beatification was introduced by the bishop of Münster. She subsequently attained to the title of Venerable, indicating Rome’s recognition that she lived a life of heroic virtue. However, in 1928 Rome suspended the Cause of Beatification when it was suspected that Brentano fabricated material attributed to her. The Holy See has since permitted the Cause to be re-opened on the sole issue of her life, without reference to the possibly doctored writings.

Anne Catherine Emmerich

 

[awsiukiewicz]

Here’s what the visionary had to say:

"I saw many pastors cherishing dangerous ideas against the Church. . . . They built a large, singular, extravagant church which was to embrace all creeds with equal rights: Evangelicals, Catholics, and all denominations, a true communion of the unholy with one shepherd and one flock. There was to be a Pope, a salaried Pope, without possessions. All was made ready, many things finished; but, in place of an altar, were only abomination and desolation. Such was the new church to be, and it was for it that he had set fire to the old one; but God designed otherwise."

Life and Revelations of [Ven.] Anne Catherine Emmerich, Vol. 2

what is that everyone is missing here…seems to speak for itself…a table sans relic…glad handing in mass…talking in church…administering the Sacrament of Holy Communion to Lutherans…Im sure ill be suspended but is there anyone out there concerned…I’m working out west and the Director of Religious Education at the Parish where we attend Mass is a Mason…wears the ring…a local physican came to give a talk to the parish students about the importance of practicing ‘safe sex’ stressing the importance of using condoms…sorry but this is not isolated stuff…Pax

 

[otjm]

what is that everyone is missing here…seems to speak for itself…a table sans relic…glad handing in mass…talking in church…administering the Sacrament of Holy Communion to Lutherans…Im sure ill be suspended but is there anyone out there concerned…I’m working out west and the Director of Religious Education at the Parish where we attend Mass is a Mason…wears the ring…a local physican came to give a talk to the parish students about the importance of practicing ‘safe sex’ stressing the importance of using condoms…sorry but this is not isolated stuff…Pax

It would appear that you have a problem separating wheat from chaff.

If relics are required either by Canon law or liturgical law, please cite the reference.

No clue what you mean by “glad handing” - whether it is the exchange of peace or holding hands during the Our Father; one is suggested, the other has no liturgical direction whatsoever as to what one is to do with one’s hands during teh Our Father and there are ample threads on the matter.

Talking in church is discourteous to others but is not a matter of liturgical rules that I am aware of - please cite a source.

*** to Lutherans receiving Communion, there are very limited circumstances where that might be allowed; obviously it is not allowed as a common practice, and if that is occurring, then you need to speak with the bishop concerning time, place, and persons involved, including how you know they are Lutherans. And if you have not witnessed it, then you need to understand how the Church considers gossip, including the duty to confess when one has engaged in it.

Likewise, the fact that someone is wearing a Masonic ring, unless you are speaking directly with them, is not a matter of publication - see comments about gossip.

And if you did not attend the lecture by the physician, then it is not something you have sufficient evidence of to be able to speak with the bishop - “I heard” is called hearsay in civil courts, and generally has as much evidentiary validity with bishops as it has with judges. And likewise the comment about gossip.

There are things occurring in the Church which are wrong, but it is not the duty of the third person who heard someone else say something about it, to repeat it. And that third person has no ability to do anything about it, any more than you or I have anything to do with someone who spouts off to someone else about their opinion about the invalidity, say, of Vatican 2.

You most certainly can pray about what concerns you. You can also stop presuming that no one else cares; but caring about something and having an ability to affect or change it are two entirely different things.

If you are director of religious education, then you are to promote and assist in the education of others - children and/or adults - in the Faith. That means teaching what the Church teaches, and does not include focusing on your concerns. In other words, if one is teaching about the Eucharist, it means teaching what the Church teaches, and not specifically dragging Lutherans into the class presentation. Or, for that matter, focusing on who might be wearing a Masonic ring.

And none of this has anything to do with the OP, so let’s get back on topic.