Annulment question if not married in the church, and not while in the church

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I was baptized in the catholic faith but left at 18, I was not married in the catholic church., 20 years later he left for someone else. If I do decide to convert to cathocism, would I need to get that marrage annuled if I were to ever decide to get married again. I do not have any plans to ever be married again. Would I need to get an annulment to take communion?
 
I was baptized in the catholic faith but left at 18, I was not married in the catholic church., 20 years later he left for someone else. If I do decide to convert to cathocism, would I need to get that marrage annuled if I were to ever decide to get married again. I do not have any plans to ever be married again. Would I need to get an annulment to take communion?
Welcome to CAF (Catholic Answers Forums)!! 😃

Here are a couple of websites that might help you figure out your situation. Much would depend on where you were married and by whom. The information there is reliable. You would not need to get an annulment to receive Holy Communion, but you would need to make a good confession if you haven’t been to mass in many years.

archden.org/tribunal/documents/nullity.htm

stcdio.org/annulment.htm

God bless you.

Gertie
 
I was baptized in the catholic faith but left at 18, I was not married in the catholic church., 20 years later he left for someone else. If I do decide to convert to cathocism, would I need to get that marrage annuled if I were to ever decide to get married again. I do not have any plans to ever be married again. Would I need to get an annulment to take communion?
As a baptized Catholic, you were required to marry in the Church. Presuming that your marriage was not in the Church, and you received no dispensation to marry from the bishop, that marriage would be preseumed invalid.

You would need a degree of nullity to marry in the Church, but it would be very easy to get. All you would need to do is provide proof of Catholic baptism, and proof that the marriage was non-Catholic. It could be done in a matter of weeks.

My sister’s husband had a similar issue, and it was resolved very quickly.

Furthermore, as a baptized Catholic, you don’t need to “convert”. Just go to confession and resume attending Mass.

God Bless
 
Furthermore, as a baptized Catholic, you don’t need to “convert”. Just go to confession and resume attending Mass.
God Bless
Having been away for 20 years, it might be good to avail yourself with some refreshment of what and why Catholics believe what they do and how they practice that Faith. I don’t expect that practice has changed much in twenty years. Come on home. 🙂 👍
 
As a baptized Catholic, you were required to marry in the Church. Presuming that your marriage was not in the Church, and you received no dispensation to marry from the bishop, that marriage would be preseumed invalid.

You would need a degree of nullity to marry in the Church, but it would be very easy to get. All you would need to do is provide proof of Catholic baptism, and proof that the marriage was non-Catholic. It could be done in a matter of weeks.

My sister’s husband had a similar issue, and it was resolved very quickly.

Furthermore, as a baptized Catholic, you don’t need to “convert”. Just go to confession and resume attending Mass.

God Bless
if this person were only baptized, would 't they still need to go through RCIA before receiving Holy Communion? maybe it was just not mentioned in the post that the person had been baptized and confirmed both in the Catholic church.
 
I was baptized in the catholic faith but left at 18, I was not married in the catholic church., 20 years later he left for someone else. If I do decide to convert to cathocism, would I need to get that marrage annuled if I were to ever decide to get married again. I do not have any plans to ever be married again. Would I need to get an annulment to take communion?
each marriage case is unique so this is a general answer only. If facts are as you state, (and in my experience there is often a lot more to the story that posters don’t reveal up front–not that they should necessarily, at least not here), then your marriage was invalid due to lack of form (you did not follow Catholic law on marriage) and to have that investigated and established is a rather simple paperwork process, not a full annulment proceeding. Yes it must be done if you ever wish to marry. If there is no intervening marriage or plans to marry all you need is confession and absolution to return to the sacraments. Welcome Home!

In general for other poster here in with similar questions. The first best place for a Catholic to go is straight to the parish priest with these issues. This is just a stop on the way, like looking in the phone book for restaurant listings is not going to get you fed unless you actually go to the place and order your food.

and no, a baptized Catholic adult who has not been prepared for the other sacraments does not belong in RCIA, but in a class with others like herself in the same situation, and that only if she needs sacramental preparation. I strongly urge anyone who has been away from the Church for a long time, particularly if they practiced another faith during that time, to speak with the priest and follow his advice on getting more and deeper education on their faith, since they likely have many more questions and issues, and deserve to have help with them.
 
Dear sister meridith,
I was baptized in the catholic faith but left at 18, I was not married in the catholic church., 20 years later he left for someone else. If I do decide to convert to cathocism, would I need to get that marrage annuled if I were to ever decide to get married again. I do not have any plans to ever be married again. Would I need to get an annulment to take communion?
Absolutely not. Annulment ONLY comes into consideration if you want to marry (“again”) in the Catholic Church.

Please keep us informed of your Faith journey.

Abundant Blessings,
Marduk
 
if this person were only baptized, would 't they still need to go through RCIA before receiving Holy Communion? maybe it was just not mentioned in the post that the person had been baptized and confirmed both in the Catholic church.
OP said she left the faith at age 18. I assumed she had her sacraments.

God Bless
 
OP said she left the faith at age 18. I assumed she had her sacraments.

God Bless
i know that many people entered our church over easter who had been baptized Catholic, but had never been confirmed. so for whatever reason, they did not receive their sacraments.
just wanted to point that out.
 
i know that many people entered our church over easter who had been baptized Catholic, but had never been confirmed. so for whatever reason, they did not receive their sacraments.
just wanted to point that out.
Yes, of course. Since she said “baptized Catholic and left at 18” rather than “baptized but not raised Catholic”, or something like that, I assumed she was raised Catholic until age 18. My assumption may be incorrect.

Also, I don’t think there is any canonical requirement for preparation before going to confession or receiving the Eucharist. After all, in the Eastern Churches, baptism, Eucharist and confirmation are all given to the infant at once. So, she has the right, as a baptized Catholic, to go to confession and receive.

In fact, after being away for so many years, I think immediate confession is probably far more urgent than anything else.

God Bless
 
Yes, of course. Since she said “baptized Catholic and left at 18” rather than “baptized but not raised Catholic”, or something like that, I assumed she was raised Catholic until age 18. My assumption may be incorrect.

Also, I don’t think there is any canonical requirement for preparation before going to confession or receiving the Eucharist. After all, in the Eastern Churches, baptism, Eucharist and confirmation are all given to the infant at once. So, she has the right, as a baptized Catholic, to go to confession and receive.

In fact, after being away for so many years, I think immediate confession is probably far more urgent than anything else.

God Bless
i think the best thing would be to talk with a priest and he will guide her as to what she needs to do.
 
Yes, I was confirmed, about the age of 10. I don’t remember too much of actual learning from that. And I do feel that I would need to rejoin. I left at 18, “never to return”, but had very little understanding of the faith, only that it was legalistic, no faith involved. Yes, I did go to another church, in my late 20’s, Luthern ELCA for about 5 years, then went non-denom untill last year. When I say rejoin, or convert, it is because I knew very little. I never considered myself Catholic. Just FYI. I would not have asked a Bishop for permission to marry outside the church, because I wasn’t Catholic, so I didn’t need permission. In effect I excommunicated myself. because of lack of knowledge about what it really means to be Catholic.
 
One of the true advantages of being a Catholic. You get to marry someone outside the Catholic Church and get a free get out of marriage free card as soon as you want to divorce the person. Where as the Protestants are stuck having to get an annulment. Isn’t that ironinc. Seriously, ever since I learned about annulments and how easy they are to get in this country I question the Catholic Church’s position on whether they think divorce is alright.

I want to further explain that I fully understand I know very little relative to what the whole process or situation is. It is ignorance or thinking one knows what they do not which causes problems with the Faith or a wrong impression of Catholics and for the moment, I admit to falling into this trap for this topic.

However, I just don’t understant why it appears it is so easy to get an annulment and why there is a stupid tecnicality like the one I sarcastically referred to above.
 
Dear brother wjp,
One of the true advantages of being a Catholic. You get to marry someone outside the Catholic Church and get a free get out of marriage free card as soon as you want to divorce the person. Where as the Protestants are stuck having to get an annulment. Isn’t that ironinc. Seriously, ever since I learned about annulments and how easy they are to get in this country I question the Catholic Church’s position on whether they think divorce is alright.

I want to further explain that I fully understand I know very little relative to what the whole process or situation is. It is ignorance or thinking one knows what they do not which causes problems with the Faith or a wrong impression of Catholics and for the moment, I admit to falling into this trap for this topic.

However, I just don’t understant why it appears it is so easy to get an annulment and why there is a stupid tecnicality like the one I sarcastically referred to above.
Perhaps you don’t know, but the Vatican overturned over a thousand annulments that were granted in the U.S. a few years back. A popular annulment case (I think it involved a Kennedy) was likewise overturned by the Vatican, IIRC. Annulments are definitely not a “get out of marriage free card.” You seem not to have studied the matter enough to know just how strict the criteria and standards are in order to obtain an annulment.

Blessings
 
Dear brother wjp,

Perhaps you don’t know, but the Vatican overturned over a thousand annulments that were granted in the U.S. a few years back. A popular annulment case (I think it involved a Kennedy) was likewise overturned by the Vatican, IIRC. Annulments are definitely not a “get out of marriage free card.” You seem not to have studied the matter enough to know just how strict the criteria and standards are in order to obtain an annulment.

Blessings
No I did not know that but it makes sense to me. And you misunderstood my post. I said the tecnicality of not getting a dispensation and therefore never having a valid marriage is a get out of marriage free card. Likewise, I admitted to having a very limited understanding based only on what I have heard.
 
What are you talking about here? Please read this: forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=5138372&postcount=35

Blessings
From what I have heard, the Code of Canon law prohibits a Catholic from marrying outside the Church without a dispensation or else it is an invalide marriage. However, this does not apply to Non Catholics. Their marriages are presumed valid. So, I think this is a very weird and ironic tecnicality capable of abuse.

A Catholic can not get the dispensation and therefore not have to worry about being in a committed marriage. Whereas Protestants do not have that luxury.
 
A Catholic can not get the dispensation and therefore not have to worry about being in a committed marriage. Whereas Protestants do not have that luxury.
But then the Catholic in question is NOT validly married. He is just “faking it,” and if he knows to exploit that “technicality”, he knows it. :mad:
 
Dear brother wjp,
From what I have heard, the Code of Canon law prohibits a Catholic from marrying outside the Church without a dispensation or else it is an invalide marriage. However, this does not apply to Non Catholics. Their marriages are presumed valid. So, I think this is a very weird and ironic tecnicality capable of abuse.

A Catholic can not get the dispensation and therefore not have to worry about being in a committed marriage. Whereas Protestants do not have that luxury.
It’s not that simple. The canon law stating that a marriage that has not acquired a dispensation from disparity of cult only applies to those who have not defected from it by a formal act. There are three cases to consider:

(1) A Catholic who, through invincible ignorance, or vincible ignorance without malice, enters into such a marriage. In such a case, the ignorance is a mitigating factor, and the marriage is presumed valid, unless other circumstances warrant invalidity. Therefore such a person would have to go through the process of annulment if the Catholic wants to marry in the Catholic Church.

(2) A Catholic who, with full knowledge of the law, enters into such a marriage. In such a case, such a Catholic can conceivably be considered to have defected from the Catholic Faith by a formal act (the marriage). In such a case, the Catholic is excommunicated, and would be considered a non-Catholic. So his/her marriage would be no different than a non-Catholic marriage, and if such a person wants to marry in the Catholic Church in the future, he/she would also need to go through the annulment process (if annulment indeed applies).

(3) A Catholic who marries a non-Catholic apostolic Christian. In such a case, the marriage is always presumed valid, but illicit.

Blessings,
Marduk
 
The Church does not grant annulments. It does investigate the validity of a marriage when the situation warrants it and can grant a declaration of invalidity if it is found that the marriage did not exist from the beginning. Divorce is a civil affair and does not affect a person’s relationship with the Church in and of itself. Marriage and Matrimony are not the same.
 
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