Another one bites the dust - bannon

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PRmerger said:
He deserves every single complaint he’s gotten. And he’s probably gotten away with more things we should be complaining about.
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I’m sure there always be something for those that um "don’t care " for Trump will find to complain about. I prefer to stay positive and not fi nd MORE things to complain about anyone quite frankly or anything.
 
OraLabora said:
He provides us with lots of material. Lots of it deadly serious too.
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And fighting for the life of the unborn is DEADLY business as well. Supreme Court Justices can make a difference. Good grief can’t you guys at least be happy about that?
 
josie_L said:
No, the media provides you with a narrative and you follow it.
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So here’s the thing, josie, unless you have some sort of private, intimate, personal relationship with Trump, you get all your information about DT from the media as well.

So here’s that weird double standard that ProTrumpers are always manifesting: “I get to do it, but when you do it it’s wrong!”

Now, if you don’t want to acknowledge that you’re permitting for yourself what you object to in others, perhaps you can tell us how you have this intimate knowledge of DT that you don’t get from the media?
 
MaryT777 said:
My X husband was an audit partner at Deloitte and now CEO of a major company. That is true business and he did the same thing. On the flip side of the coin people who didn’t measure up, couldn’t properly excel in client relations were let go yearly and they found them a job with a client IF they were competent. If not they were let go which rarely happens.

Everyone simply wasn’t “cut out” for public accounting and not everyone who may seen well qualified is cut out for office in the government.

Does your company have a probationary period when hiring folks?
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Deloitte is a starting point for many in accounting and often times people do drop out of the rat race and join a company that hired Deloitte to do the auditing, especially when it becomes clear that they won’t advance/make partner. I don’t think that experience is comparable to a typical business.

My company has a probationary period but rarely do people drop out during that period.

As far as government goes, I would think that people working for the White House have largely already been vetted in other jobs. After all, Deloitte isn’t hiring fresh out college graduates for partners. So, I would expect that those hired to work in the White House should be mostly competent at that high level because they’ve proven themselves at lower levels. But Trump can’t seem to hire them. Perhaps the person that isn’t cut out for office in the government is Trump himself, since he can’t seem to properly run his office.
 
MaryT777 said:
I’m sure there always be something for those that um "don’t care " for Trump will find to complain about. I prefer to stay positive and not fi nd MORE things to complain about anyone quite frankly or anything.
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You do realize that each time you post an objection, you’re being…NEGATIVE, right?

So…

double standard being limned again.

“I permit for myself what I object to in others”.

Sheesh.
 
Jig_Saw said:
Deloitte is a starting point for many in accounting and often times people do drop out of the rat race and join a company that hired Deloitte to do the auditing, especially when it becomes clear that they won’t advance/make partner. I don’t think that experience is comparable to a typical business.

My company has a probationary period but rarely do people drop out during that period.

As far as government goes, I would think that people working for the White House have largely already been vetted in other jobs. After all, Deloitte isn’t hiring fresh out college graduates for partners. So, I would expect that those hired to work in the White House should be mostly competent at that high level because they’ve proven themselves at lower levels. But Trump can’t seem to hire them. Perhaps the person that isn’t cut out for office in the government is Trump himself, since he can’t seem to properly run his office.
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Perhaps the rat race at the white house is also not cut out for everyone as well as the high pressure of having your life made public. That’s my assessment and I agree with yours as well.

I don’t believe there is one way properly to run the office quite frankly. I don’t think necessarily keeping people for years and years just because they once were vetted makes for the best staff possible as well.

So far I think whether he properly runs his office is in the eye of the beholder. I might think you behold he doesn’t. 😃
 
PRmerger said:
So here’s the thing, josie, unless you have some sort of private, intimate, personal relationship with Trump, you get all your information about DT from the media as well.

So here’s that weird double standard that ProTrumpers are always manifesting: “I get to do it, but when you do it it’s wrong!”

Now, if you don’t want to acknowledge that you’re permitting for yourself what you object to in others, perhaps you can tell us how you have this intimate knowledge of DT that you don’t get from the media?
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Then let me add that you are following the narrative of the LEFTIST MSM, i.e., if people actually interspersed what they read by reading media that is not just left or left of center, i.e., conservative, they would have two viewpoints from which to form opinions.

And their understanding of things regarding Trump might actually change/vary, because the leftist media is very very anti-Trump, and therefore very biased.

Does that clarify things for you?
 
josie_L said:
I rarely use it too, but there comes a time when sarcasm is just the thing needed.
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The sad thing is some people simply cannot find it in their hearts to say anything that is not negative… I find those that do so consistently on every issue and every thread on the board interesting. Reminds me of the commercial with the Energizer Bunny for batteries years ago where something keeps on going and going in this case the complaining.

Just my personal thought.
 
MaryT777 said:
And fighting for the life of the unborn is DEADLY business as well. Supreme Court Justices can make a difference. Good grief can’t you guys at least be happy about that?
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Here’s the thing: pro-life doesn’t stop at birth. I do hope the new judge issues pro-life judgments. It remains to be seen if he does.

But cutting health care funding to the poor or enacting policies that will cause millions to lose health care insurance are a policies that are the very opposite of pro-life.
 
JimR-OCDS said:
More evidence that Trump is over his head and has been since he decided to run for president.’

He has no clue on how government works and this resulted in not vetting people correctly for the job.

He’s not a CEO, but a president.

He doesn’t get to order people as a CEO does, because he doesn’t pay them. The taxpayers do through the Congress which appropriates spending.

Mitch McConnell being removed would be another improvement in our government, but that will have to wait til is re-election time.

Jim
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Therefore the rapid turnover is not surprising then.

The upside is that the President knows that nobody is indispensable, and he is willing to make changes to correct and strengthen his administration with new appointees. He is decisive enough to part with some of his campaign team members and replace them with better, more professional suitable candidates.

Hopefully a replacement will stabilize thing further. For example, General Kelly as the chief of staff was a welcome face in the White House.
 
PRmerger said:
Maybe it will, maybe it won’t.

But it’s certainly worthy of discussion and I find it peculiar that people are upset that we’re talking about this very bizarre and chaotic administration.
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Why would anyone be upset? This is a message board and anyone is free to participate. I do find it peculiar people find everything about Trump negative. No one is completely worthy of negative criticism. That’s my thought. He has done a good thing with the Supreme Court Justice and perhaps more in the future which may be the best thing he ever does.

Maybe he will shock you all with some positive results as well!~:cool:

On that point we’re on opposite sides…
 
MaryT777 said:
Perhaps the rat race at the white house is also not cut out for everyone as well as the high pressure of having your life made public. That’s my assessment and I agree with yours as well.
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Perhaps, but this sort of attrition rate is extremely high and suggests poor hiring.
I don’t believe there is one way properly to run the office quite frankly. I don’t think necessarily keeping people for years and years just because they once were vetted makes for the best staff possible as well.
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So far I think whether he properly runs his office is in the eye of the beholder. I might think you behold he doesn’t. 😃
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No, I don’t believe a chaotic office is an effective one and given the number of top advisors that haven’t lasted 6 months suggests that this office is chaotic. People that flip employees that fast usually find difficulty hiring good employees later because they know they may be fired on a whim. Most business people understand this.
 
And if you’re wondering who these conservative media news outlets are, here are a few; Townhall, Washington Times, Washington Examiner, Washington Free Beacon, National Review, The American Spectator, The Daily Wire, The American Conservative, City Journal, The Federalist, The Daily Caller. . . . . etc.
 
OraLabora said:
Here’s the thing: pro-life doesn’t stop at birth. I do hope the new judge issues pro-life judgments. It remains to be seen if he does.

But cutting health care funding to the poor or enacting policies that will cause millions to lose health care insurance are a policies that are the very opposite of pro-life.
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I agree with you completely. Obamacare is a disaster and it would be nice if the Dems and The Republicans could come together with a plan. We have one insurer left in our state.

Let us pray for that a health care plan will be available that will make sure all are covered
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Jig_Saw said:
The risk of Bannon leaving the White House is him becoming a critic of Trump. Given his roots in right-wing propaganda, he could be very damaging to Trump.
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The writing was on the wall for Bannon after the spat with Mooch. In any case, though a loyal Trumper he is more of a liability to the President by being too much identified with radical right winger and therefore a hated figure by his opponents.
 
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