Another one bites the dust - bannon

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I truly cannot understand how anyone thinking person could have voted for Trump.

He’s a cheat. He has refused to pay poor, working-class people for the services for which he contracted. He defrauded others out of their money with his Trump University.

He’s incompetent. He was an incompetent businessman whose multiple bankruptcies destroyed many of his creditors but improved his bottom line, just as he and his companies are profiting from his presidency.

He lies. And his lies are stupid and easily disproved, like his claim about Trump Wineries this week, and the size of his electoral win, and the number of people who attended his inauguration, and the number of bills he’s signed, and not knowing who David Duke is, and his phones being tapped, an my personal favorites, all the plans he had for Day 1: He would hire the best of the best, he had a plan that would provide health care for everyone at a “fraction,FRACTION, of the cost”, and he would have a plan for defeating ISIS. None of that was true.

Trump is the most unqualified person ever to hold the office of the President of the United States. His knowledge of history, international relations, and governance is minuscule, and, what is worse, he is unaware of his ignorance and even less inclined to reduce it. He has made our great country a laughing stock on the world stage and reduced our influence and leadership to a point that will be very difficult to improve.

And he is a racist. Over the course of decades his companies were fined for discriminating against minorities numerous times, and his statements this week have divided this country as it has not been since the sixties. White supremacists and the KKK rightly viewed his statements as approval and encouragement for their hateful views.

And all this is justified because he nominated a SC Justice who is pro-life. If there has ever been a proof that the ends don’t justify the means, the 2016 election was surely it.

Again, how could any thinking person justify vote for this man? I know many on the right will say “But Hillary. . .” but, if she was deceptive (which I do not believe she was), she was smart enough to lie and not get caught. The R’s spent four years and $6+ million and couldn’t prove anything against her. A third-grader with yesterday’s newspaper could disprove Trump’s lies.
 
Trump might be gone by the end of the year. Could be gone sooner given how things are going these days. But that justice will be around for life. Better that Trump made that selection than Hillary. Need a little perspective there.

Two reasons I picked Trump over Hillary:
(1), I knew he would pick at least one Supreme Court justice, possibly more, and he would pick some number of federal district court judges. As I said above, better Trump than Hillary to make those picks 10 times out of 10 and I would vote for him again just for this alone. Supreme Court justices last far beyond the term(s) of the Presidents who nominated them.
(2), Trump is not a neocon. This is why Sanders was so popular: because he isn’t a neocon either. A lot of voters on both sides did not want another neocon in the White House.
 
Zzyzx Road;14856700]Jared is probably the only adviser in Trump’s camp who is untouchable. Because he’s family and no one’s been able to hang anything on him. Also word on the street is that Jared and Ivanka are classic New York liberals and have strongly represented that point of view within the White House while Donald Trump Jr. is more like his father.
This is one reason people should have voted for Cruz. If the Democrats even win the House with the incompetence of the Senate, it’s all Trump needs to excuse left-wing behavior from his NYC and Hollywood roots. Concerning considering there may be 2-3 SC picks on the horizon.
That said, the speculation out there is that this was by mutual agreement, that once outside the White House environment, Bannon would be free to take his best shots at the establishment. If that’s the case, then Bannon isn’t finished by any means, he will just no longer be limited to what he could do from inside the WH. So when Bannon goes off again, Trump has plausible deniability in saying “he doesn’t work for me anymore; I can’t tell him what to do”. Also remember Bannon wasn’t in Trump’s camp to begin with, he originally worked for Ted Cruz so there may be something to that angle as well.
The never-trump crowd and the left are celebrating. This could turn real sour for them in the end.
 
I’d like if we could go a week without hearing about someone else leaving.
It’s not so bad. If you really want to shake up DC, these are the kind of fights that need to be had and won.

Jury’s still out on how this could go, but people have celebrated Trump’s defeat prematurely, many, MANY times before.
 
Trump might be gone by the end of the year. Could be gone sooner given how things are going these days. But that justice will be around for life. Better that Trump made that selection than Hillary. Need a little perspective there.

Two reasons I picked Trump over Hillary:
(1), I knew he would pick at least one Supreme Court justice, possibly more, and he would pick some number of federal district court judges. As I said above, better Trump than Hillary to make those picks 10 times out of 10 and I would vote for him again just for this alone. Supreme Court justices last far beyond the term(s) of the Presidents who nominated them.
(2), Trump is not a neocon. This is why Sanders was so popular: because he isn’t a neocon either. A lot of voters on both sides did not want another neocon in the White House.
So you believe that the end justifies the means.
 
Cruz is a neocon. That alone made him unacceptable to a lot of voters.
 
Trump might be gone by the end of the year. Could be gone sooner given how things are going these days. But that justice will be around for life. Better that Trump made that selection than Hillary. Need a little perspective there.

Two reasons I picked Trump over Hillary:
(1), I knew he would pick at least one Supreme Court justice, possibly more, and he would pick some number of federal district court judges. As I said above, better Trump than Hillary to make those picks 10 times out of 10 and I would vote for him again just for this alone. Supreme Court justices last far beyond the term(s) of the Presidents who nominated them.
(2), Trump is not a neocon. This is why Sanders was so popular: because he isn’t a neocon either. A lot of voters on both sides did not want another neocon in the White House.
If you had to do it over again, would you still vote for Trump?
 
If you had to do it over again, would you still vote for Trump?
If the same opponent Hillary Clinton, then most definitely yes. As bad as Trump has been, Hillary would have been far worse. See above my two big reasons. I was voting against Hillary as much as I was voting for Trump.

If it had been Sanders opposing Trump, then while I’d shy away from letting Sanders pick that next justice, his opposition to the neocons would at least give me a choice I could live with.

Remember that new Supreme Court justice will be there long after everyone else in the current and next Administration are gone.
 
If the same opponent Hillary Clinton, then most definitely yes. As bad as Trump has been, Hillary would have been far worse. See above my two big reasons. I was voting against Hillary as much as I was voting for Trump.

If it had been Sanders opposing Trump, then while I’d shy away from letting Sanders pick that next justice, his opposition to the neocons would at least give me a choice I could live with.

Remember that new Supreme Court justice will be there long after everyone else in the current and next Administration are gone.
Often when I read posts such as this one which on CAF is frequently, I get the impression Trump could indeed shoot someone on Fifth Ave and as long as he nominated Gorsuch, that’s all that matters to many here. You can thank Mitch though for holding up the seat for a year. What puzzles me though is even if Roe is ever overturned and the matter is returned to the states, what’s going to keep women from traveling to a state where abortion would still be legal to obtain a legal one or poor women who can’t afford to travel from procuring an illegal abortion if she sees no way out due to her economic conditions and if there is not enough support in terms of social and educational programs in place so she doesn’t feel a need to choose to end her pregnancy? But it seems if nominating Gorsuch is all that comes of the Trump Presidency, nevermind for instance if there remains sick people without healthcare or if tens of millions lose theirs as was projected in the case of each Republican plan that was voted on this year, ya’ll will consider his term a success.
 
And if Deloitte fails, there is always Ernst and Young.

If the United States government fails, there is no replacement./QUOTE

I personally don’t see the US government failing because “Bannon” bites the dust. Most people in any position are dispensable and replaceable as much as human nature likes to tell us our place of work might fall apart without ME. Nope.
 
Often when I read posts such as this one which on CAF is frequently, I get the impression Trump could indeed shoot someone on Fifth Ave and as long as he nominated Gorsuch, that’s all that matters to many here. You can thank Mitch though for holding up the seat for a year. What puzzles me though is even if Roe is ever overturned and the matter is returned to the states, what’s going to keep women from traveling to a state where abortion would still be legal to obtain a legal one or poor women who can’t afford to travel from procuring an illegal abortion if she sees no way out due to her economic conditions and if there is not enough support in terms of social and educational programs in place so she doesn’t feel a need to choose to end her pregnancy? But it seems if nominating Gorsuch is all that comes of the Trump Presidency, nevermind for instance if there remains sick people without healthcare or if tens of millions lose theirs as was projected in the case of each Republican plan that was voted on this year, or workers wages do not increase but the rich benefit, race relations worsen, etc etc, not all but many here will still consider his term a success. I just find it all puzzling from people who identify as pro-life.
 
Often when I read posts such as this one which on CAF is frequently, I get the impression Trump could indeed shoot someone on Fifth Ave and as long as he nominated Gorsuch, that’s all that matters to many here. You can thank Mitch though for holding up the seat for a year. What puzzles me though is even if Roe is ever overturned and the matter is returned to the states, what’s going to keep women from traveling to a state where abortion would still be legal to obtain a legal one or poor women who can’t afford to travel from procuring an illegal abortion if she sees no way out due to her economic conditions and if there is not enough support in terms of social and educational programs in place so she doesn’t feel a need to choose to end her pregnancy? But it seems if nominating Gorsuch is all that comes of the Trump Presidency, nevermind for instance if there remains sick people without healthcare or if tens of millions lose theirs as was projected in the case of each Republican plan that was voted on this year, or wages do not increase but the rich benefit, race relations worsen, etc etc, many will still consider his term a success. I just find that so puzzling from people identifying as pro-life.
 
Often when I read posts such as this one which on CAF is frequently, I get the impression Trump could indeed shoot someone on Fifth Ave and as long as he nominated Gorsuch, that’s all that matters to many here. You can thank Mitch though for holding up the seat for a year. What puzzles me though is even if Roe is ever overturned and the matter is returned to the states, what’s going to keep women from traveling to a state where abortion would still be legal to obtain a legal one or poor women who can’t afford to travel from procuring an illegal abortion if she sees no way out due to her economic conditions and if there is not enough support in terms of social and educational programs in place so she doesn’t feel a need to choose to end her pregnancy? But it seems if nominating Gorsuch is all that comes of the Trump Presidency, nevermind for instance if there remains sick people without healthcare or if tens of millions lose theirs as was projected in the case of each Republican plan that was voted on this year, ya’ll will consider his term a success.
Yeap, their safe haven is always abortion. Which is unfortunate bc other things are going on that don’t represent a true prolife stance
 
If the same opponent Hillary Clinton, then most definitely yes. As bad as Trump has been, Hillary would have been far worse. See above my two big reasons. I was voting against Hillary as much as I was voting for Trump.

If it had been Sanders opposing Trump, then while I’d shy away from letting Sanders pick that next justice, his opposition to the neocons would at least give me a choice I could live with.

Remember that new Supreme Court justice will be there long after everyone else in the current and next Administration are gone.
Fair enough.

But didn’t Gorsuch say that abortion and gay marriage are settled law?

Also, didn’t he say that the fetus is not entitled to protection under the law?
 
And you are following the narrative of the RIGHT media.

So not sure why you think your tendentious source is any better than my sources.

AGAIN, with the double standard.
Only in your mind, i.e., I read leftist sources for news as well as conservative, which is why I stated that one should intersperse where they get their news by reading articles from both sides of the political spectrum.

Which me leaves me still wondering, if you access or bother to read from conservative news outlets?

Some suggestions: Washington Times, Washington Examiner, Washington Free Beacon, Town Hall, The Daily WIre, The Natonal Review, The Daily Caller, The American Spectator, The American Conservative, City Journal . . . . . etc.

Even the Wall Street Journal, the NY Post, the Hill, and Politico can have differing perspectives, even if they are considered part of the liberal MSM.

p.s. And your clear bias shows through, when you call my “source” (singular) tendentious.
 
Except though he said that no one was capable of fixing Washington like he was, his military instincts are better than the generals, fixing obamamcare was easy, he was working on a great plan.

Also Carl Ichan stepped down today as well as advisor

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Yes, the markets should react to this more than Bannon leaving. But that’s only my opinion.
 
I truly cannot understand how anyone thinking person could have voted for Trump.

He’s a cheat. He has refused to pay poor, working-class people for the services for which he contracted. He defrauded others out of their money with his Trump University.

He’s incompetent. He was an incompetent businessman whose multiple bankruptcies destroyed many of his creditors but improved his bottom line, just as he and his companies are profiting from his presidency.

He lies. And his lies are stupid and easily disproved, like his claim about Trump Wineries this week, and the size of his electoral win, and the number of people who attended his inauguration, and the number of bills he’s signed, and not knowing who David Duke is, and his phones being tapped, an my personal favorites, all the plans he had for Day 1: He would hire the best of the best, he had a plan that would provide health care for everyone at a “fraction,FRACTION, of the cost”, and he would have a plan for defeating ISIS. None of that was true.

Trump is the most unqualified person ever to hold the office of the President of the United States. His knowledge of history, international relations, and governance is minuscule, and, what is worse, he is unaware of his ignorance and even less inclined to reduce it. He has made our great country a laughing stock on the world stage and reduced our influence and leadership to a point that will be very difficult to improve.

And he is a racist. Over the course of decades his companies were fined for discriminating against minorities numerous times, and his statements this week have divided this country as it has not been since the sixties. White supremacists and the KKK rightly viewed his statements as approval and encouragement for their hateful views.

And all this is justified because he nominated a SC Justice who is pro-life. If there has ever been a proof that the ends don’t justify the means, the 2016 election was surely it.

Again, how could any thinking person justify vote for this man? I know many on the right will say “But Hillary. . .” but, if she was deceptive (which I do not believe she was), she was smart enough to lie and not get caught. The R’s spent four years and $6+ million and couldn’t prove anything against her. A third-grader with yesterday’s newspaper could disprove Trump’s lies.
Mitch McConnell should be thanked for the SC Justice not Trump.
 
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