Another senseless death of a white man. Will charges ever be pressed?

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Please do not respond saying, “well, that’s just townhall”.

Cary Aspinwall and Dave Boucher are investigative reporters for The Dallas Morning News . They deserve a Pulitzer Prize for an article written last summer that apparently no one in America has read, which is why I am summarizing it here today. It was about a man named Tony Timpa who cried for help more than 30 times as Dallas police officers pinned his neck to the ground. Before he died, Timpa shouted repeatedly, “You’re gonna kill me!”

And kill him the police officers did. After Timpa became unconscious, the officers who had him cuffed assumed he was asleep. As the minutes passed, the officers joked about waking him up for school and making him waffles for breakfast.
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Not sure where the status of this case is.
 
I see this as another example of police brutality that needs to be investigated along with the AA community concerns about police treatment. I realize that the media right now is micro focused on the AA. That doesn’t mean cases such as this should be ignored or downplayed. The ongoing brutality just shows that police tactics need investigation.
 
For those well-meaning people who have been misled by the leftist media into believing that there is systemic racism among our police:
19 unarmed whites were killed by police in 2019. The year 2019 was the safest for unarmed blacks: only 10 were killed by police in all of 2019, and more than half were attacking the police just prior to be killed. Better than 2015 (under President Obama), when 38 unarmed blacks and 35 unarmed whites were killed by police, according to left-leaning Washington Post.
Police are 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black than an unarmed black to be killed by police.
 
1cthlctrth said:
19 unarmed whites were killed by police in 2019. The year 2019 was the safest for unarmed blacks: only 10 were killed by police in all of 2019
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This is nothing to brag about, considering that blacks make up only 13.4% of the population, but according to the figures you just posted, they were victims in 34% the killings by police of unarmed people.
Police are 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black than an unarmed black to be killed by police.
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Yes, they are in a dangerous profession.
 
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It’s surprising Leaf that some of your compatriots do not appreciate the simple maths you point out here. Or perhaps the poster had no idea what proportion of Americans are black?

Another stat worth looking at is the scale of police shootings /killings in the US vs other comparable countries. I suspect “everyone” tends to reach for guns fairly quickly in the US since they are held to be such ordinary accoutrements.
 
Rau said:
It’s surprising Leaf that some of your compatriots do not appreciate the simple maths you point out here. Or perhaps the poster had no idea what proportion of Americans are black?
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Perhaps the maths is too simple to actually be of use in determining racism.

What are the statistics for people who resist arrest?

What is the statistics for people under the influence of drugs with medical conditions who resist arrest?

Would not these be factors also in fatal encounters with police?

Are we ‘simply’ assuming these remain the same across race categories?

Do black people also commit 13% of say murders and robberies?

Are we ‘simply’ also assuming rates of offence are proportional to the rates of population?
 
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I’m making none of those assertions. But read again the post to which Leaf responded…
 
silentwitness said:
Are we ‘simply’ also assuming rates of offence are proportional to the rates of population?
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Sure. Why wouldn’t we?

At best, we can only say that police arrest offending blacks at a higher rate. There is no way of knowing if blacks offend more often than whites or if racist police arrest more blacks. Any explanation is bound to be racist.
 
Dovekin said:
Sure. Why wouldn’t we?

At best, we can only say that police arrest offending blacks at a higher rate. There is no way of knowing if blacks offend more often than whites or if racist police arrest more blacks. Any explanation is bound to be racist.
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I wouldn’t go that far. Crime rate probably follows other parameters such as education, employment, poverty etc.
 
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silentwitness:
Are we ‘simply’ also assuming rates of offence are proportional to the rates of population?
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Sure. Why wouldn’t we?

At best, we can only say that police arrest offending blacks at a higher rate. There is no way of knowing if blacks offend more often than whites or if racist police arrest more blacks. Any explanation is bound to be racist.
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Police arrest unoffending blacks at a higher rate.
Police kill unoffending blacks at a higher rare.
And pointing out racism is not itself a racist act.
 
There are a lot of variables, obviously, Senator Tim Scott (SC) has talked about how he’s been pulled over by the police in what seems to be at a higher rate than say the average white citizen. So, statistics and all statistics are nothing to shy away from if we want to pursue the best solution.
 
13% of the population, half the perpetrators of violent crime.

Best way to help the black community is repeal laws that target marijuana possession, reform welfare aid so that single mothers don’t benefit more than married mothers with a father in the home, and most importantly, address immigration in a manner that aids black men, as they are Negatively impacted by both legal and illegal immigration far harder than white men are. Until black men can get a good job and provide for their families without being undercut in the job search.
 
RhodesianSon said:
single mothers don’t benefit more than married mothers with a father in the home,
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It makes sense to give more help to a person who makes less money though. Single women aren’t holding off on marriage because they want food stamps or cheques. They’re more likely to hold off marriage because either their baby daddies don’t want them, or they feel like they don’t make good husbands for one reason or another.
 
I’ll respectfully disagree. I have personally known couples who wouldn’t marry because they would lose out on benefits.
 
RhodesianSon said:
13% of the population, half the perpetrators of violent crime
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13% of population, 50% of those who are convicted of violent crime. Or accused. Your stats do not say.

There may be some correlation between those who are perpetrators of violent crime, and those who are convicted/accused of it, but that is what is being questioned.
 
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