Another trick questions - Modern/Liberal Catholic views

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I tried searching this topic, haven’t found much. What kind of views do Modern/Liberal Catholics hold vs conservative/traditional. I know this topic will be way open to review but I want to try and understand. Blessings.
 
Liberal and conservative are political terms, not religious. Politically someone who is anti-abortion is conservative and someone who is anti-capital punishment is liberal. But in both cases, the position is in line with Catholic values.

A so-called traditional Catholic might prefer the Mass in Latin, but I don’t think that’s the only definition of traditional. I definitely prefer the Mass in English but I also uphold Church teachings and traditions.

I think you need to define what exactly you are asking about.
 
This right here is why I didn’t want to be the first to reply to this thread because I saw this coming.

You do understand Saxum that words have multiple meanings in English yes? Love for example being the best example. The love I feel for my brother and sister is familiar vs the sexual and romatic love for my wife but we use the word for both without thinking about it.

In the same way liberal and conservative have so many many context your branding of hyretical is both laughably inaccurate and insulting.
 
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Counting the hours before this thread is closed.
You’re basically asking everyone to draw a line in the sand.
Remember when Christ wrote in the sand?
He was pointing out the failings of others without outright stating them.
Trust me, nothing good will come of this discussion. People love to pidgeon-hole others because it makes them feel better about their own faults and failings.
No bueno.

Have a blessed Triduum and a Holy Easter.
 
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Catholicism is about apostolic tradition, so the term traditional Catholic is redundant. The terms liberal and, perhaps, modern really do not apply to Christianity. Terms that are relevant are faithful/unfaithful, orthodox/heterodox.
 
I consider myself Conservative politically and Liberal as a Catholic. But I’d prefer the term Moderate for both, not because as some people would jump on me and call me “undecided” or “not knowing what I really want”, but because I take what I see of value from both and form my own opinion.
 
If one thinks about it, all Catholics have to be conservative: we must conserve the Faith and the traditions handed down by the Apostles. If liberal means that one wishes to deviate from the Apostolic Faith, then a Catholic cannot, in good conscience, enforce a liberal agenda.

Furthermore, in a Catholic context, the word “liberal” is synonymous with Modernist. The book “Liberalism is a Sin” is worth reading.
 
If one thinks about it, all Catholics have to be conservative:
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No they don’t because conservative has multiple meanings ranging from political to social. One can be conservative in the tradition sense or conservative in sense or taking ones time to measure ones thoughts or curb waste of resources.
we must conserve the Faith and the traditions handed down by the Apostles
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You can do that while adjusting and adapting to the times. Its thought processes like this where in the hypothetical scenario we encounter alien life you’d dismiss them as “animals” and unworthy of salvation because you are unable to widen your box of thought.

So no, your dismissive manor is both harmful to our future and extremely short sighted.
 
Faith should indeed be conserved, traditions on the other hand - it would depend on which tradition, as traditions are mostly man made. Holding on to traditions is admirable, but some traditions that hold back and restrict a person or organization from growing should be put in the past. The church, too, has done a lot of evolving over the course of its life.
 
Saxum, liberal means something different in my country, it is a conservative term
 
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I tried searching this topic, haven’t found much
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Have you figured out who is who yet? Now, go to their profile and look at their posting history. Once there, you’ll have access to a treasure trove (one person’s treasure is another person’s posting history) of Catholic interpretations. Without going into details, let us know if this thread has been helpful for you. 😖
 
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I have a hard time responding to this. And I suspect many will assume political definitions here.

To me, there isn’t a ‘Liberal’ or ‘Conservative’ Catholic. There are the disciplines of the church (changeable), the doctrines of the church (can evolve over time based on the teaching magisterium inherent in the Church), and the dogmas that make up the Church.

A Catholic has to give assent to the Church and it’s authority. To the extent that they aren’t in communion (and I fail in this, I think everyone does to some extent) with the Church’s rules, they are in the wrong, and quite possibly sinning. I.E. a Latin priest cannot marry. If he chooses to get married then there are consequences, even though it is just a discipline. He also has likely sinned against the oath he made when he became a priest. If I choose to be pro choice, then I’m advocating for the allowance of an inherently evil position, and may be sinning myself.

While I have the power to do these things (advocate for married priests, or abortion) I don’t have the authority. So if I exercise my authority to do those things, I’m in the wrong.

There isn’t a ‘conservative’ or a ‘liberal’ about it.

There is leeway in some matters. I can choose to go to Church in jeans for a variety of reasons, and while it may bug someone, it isn’t sinful or necessarily wrong. I can choose to disagree with the Pope’s stance on immigration or taxation; and that is just fine.

But in matters of faith and morals I’m bound to educate my conscience properly and give assent to the Church.

So someone not in line with the Church (be it someone attacking the Pope’s validity, or advocating for something out of line with the faith and morals of the Church) isn’t ‘Liberal’ they are just wrong.
 
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How about we stop putting qualifiers in front of the word catholic?
 
**Thank you to all that have replied… I knew this would be a very heated topic and am not sure I even asked it correctly BUT I’ve found some helpful answers…

And by no means was I trying to label any Catholic because in the end we are Catholics, just with different likes, on prayer, mass celebration, worship, etc. but in the end we all follow Christ just differently.

Blessings to all.
 
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