Answers from an Orthodox Jew

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My point was not about avoiding medical issues. It was about forcing body branding for tribal identy onto someone without their concent. How safe or unsafe it is was irrelevant. Also, the practice has been going on for thousands of years regardless of this new data from WW2. So yes they are not doing it to avoid medical issues but to brand their child.
 
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Jews atone for their sins in the same ways they always have even when there was a Temple, that is, by means of prayer, good deeds, alms-giving, and turning away from bad behavior toward others, including those they have offended and wronged. The blood sacrifices of animals could atone only for unintentional sins, not for intentional sins. Further, such sacrifices were always based on prayer and the intention to repent from past negative behavior.
 
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There is no such thing as atheism. But a government that protects the most vulnerable of us is a government that is better. People have a basic set of rights that no cultural tribal excuse should be allowed to violate. We should push back agaist the idea of everyone has rights except in culture A or B.
 
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We have already answered and discussed your concerns in the best ways we can. I see little point now in repeating the same arguments. We would both be better off to agree to disagree on this issue. Don’t you think your last remark here is rather offensive to Catholics, as well as being inappropriate since you are a participant on a Catholic Forum?
 
I once attended class at the university with a young man who became religious as a teenager and whose parents had never given him a Bris Milah. He elected to undergo it at age 18. He was in excruciating pain and could barely sit down for 3 days. His doctor told him that when certain anatomical events
That’s a painful anecdote to read, but thanks anyhow. My father was circumcised in the US Army at age 21 (non religious), and complained about it for the rest of his life.
 
Let me see if I got this straight.

You are telling me that the prayer alone is sufficient, and that the respective sacrifice that goes with the prayer is not necessary if the sin was intentional. Is that it?

How do you atone for unintentional sins, then?

Also, did God excuse jews not to do as He instruced to on Yom Kippur? If I remember well the instructions in Leviticus, you are supposed to offer holocaust, incense, sacrifices and so on for the expiation of sins, besides prayers.
 
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You are telling me that the prayer alone is sufficient
He didn’t say that. Maybe yes, maybe no. It depends on the prayer. People must also do good deeds and study Torah to help expiate their sins. Often, they must undergo some measure of physical or other suffering (at God’s decree) as well. Righteous people fast, voluntarily accepting that suffering as atonement.
and that the respective sacrifice that goes with the prayer is not necessary if the sin was intentional. Is that it?
Actually, you are not allowed to bring a sacrifice for an intentional sin. That is an invalid sacrifice and a violation of Torah law.
How do you atone for unintentional sins, then?
If intentional sins may be atoned for with prayer, fasting and good deeds, then a fortiori, unintentional sins can also be atoned for in that manner. The institution of sacrifice was a Divine gift to ease the process of atonement for less serious sins. Now that gift has been taken away.
Also, did God excuse jews not to do as He instruced to on Yom Kippur? If I remember well the instructions in Leviticus, you are supposed to offer holocaust, incense, sacrifices and so on for the expiation of sins, besides prayers.
Perhaps it was an oversight. I’ve noticed a common pattern among anti-Semites of conspicuously leaving the word “Jews” uncapitalized. It is not appreciated.

The day itself of Yom Kippur, which translates as the “Day of Atonement,” effects atonement. The absence of the Temple Service is as noted before, a tragic lack, which makes the atonement process more difficult, but does not in any way prevent atonement.
 
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The prophet Hosea has the answer regarding how we are to atone for unintentional sins. Hosea had previously prophesied the destruction of the Temple and our not having animal sacrifices nor kings as rulers for many a day (Hosea 3), and in Hosea 14, he now informs the Jewish people that bulls shall be replaced by our lips. Thus the proper atonement replacement for unintentional sins, according to Hosea, is by means of contrite prayer. No mention is made of the need for animal or blood sacrifice.
 
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Do you mean Hosea from 8th BC?

Well, he was right. The Temple was indeed destroyed during the Babylon captivity. But God allowed it to be rebuilt a few decades after.

I would like to read more about how he got this interpretation regarding prayer being suficient in case there is no temple. I’m sure he must have a Torah study regarding this subject.
 
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Issues why it was closed? I think some people started evangelizing and other members flagged their posts until the thread was automatically closed.
 
It was started by @meltzerboy2 as an “ask me anything” about Judaism thread. So there was no one theme.
Link to it is in the first post of this thread.
 
Hi, I have read that Judaism dies not believe in original sin, specifically in terms of individual responsibility for inheriting it.

Would have Jesus Christ been raised in the Jewish faith being taught that if an innocent baby or child died before the age of reason, that the child would be welcomed by our Heavenly Father into Heaven?
 
Hi, I have read that Judaism dies not believe in original sin, specifically in terms of individual responsibility for inheriting it.
The Jewish Encyclopedia is always a good place to look, here it is on sin
Would have Jesus Christ been raised in the Jewish faith being taught that if an innocent baby or child died before the age of reason, that the child would be welcomed by our Heavenly Father into Heaven?
Christian and Jewish beliefs about the afterlife are quite different.
 
Thanks for the link, Kaninchen. It is chock full of information regarding sin from the Jewish perspective.
 
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Hi @Kaninchen, haven’t seen you in awhile!

Long story short, there is no original sin in the sense that someone is born already blameworthy due to Adam’s sin. Judaism teaches that children are blameless/innocent in the eyes of Heaven before the age of majority, which is 12 for a girl and 13 for a boy, after which they are held responsible for their actions.
 
Hi @Kaninchen, haven’t seen you in awhile!

Long story short, there is no original sin in the sense that someone is born already blameworthy due to Adam’s sin. Judaism teaches that children are blameless/innocent in the eyes of Heaven before the age of majority, which is 12 for a girl and 13 for a boy, after which they are held responsible for their actions.
I was raised in a non-Catholic denomination that teaches we are born with a sinful nature ie we all have a propensity to sin but that like Judaism the child is blameless until he/she reaches the awareness of their own responsibility for their own personal sin.

Somehow the teaching that infant baptism saves the child from their original sin came into being. It is interesting since the early church was comprised of converts from Judaism. I have read that infant baptism took a couple hundred years to formulate or at least be recorded.

A loving Father casting babies into hell unless they were baptised does not make sense to me.
 
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