Anti-Catholic Christians

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I was attacked by anti-Catholic Christians online who were saying that the Catholic church is false and evil and that Jesus is re-crucified at every mass (I’ve heard this one before). I responded that that is false and that the Eucharist is a non-bloody sacrifice. I also said that the Catholic church compiled the bible.

This was the guys reply:

“Catholic comes from the Greek for universal. The Council of Nicea was in 325 AD. The New Testament was canonized then BUT if you do your research you’ll see it was only canonized because all 27 books were already well in circulation and recognized as from the Holy Spirit and authentic. It also settled a lot of heretical disputes. BUT if you know your catholic history you KNOW that century by century MORE demonic doctrines crept into the catholic church (hence why there was a divide between greek and roman), In time it was completely polluted hence God’s inspiration for the protestant reformation. And NO it is not a “protestant myth” that Christ’s flesh and blood must be offered again and again for grace, that’s called the eucharist and it’s in Catholic doctrine. I recommend watching Mike Winger’s Catholicism series as well as James Whites debates. I hope you can be set free to the glory of God.”

I didn’t realize some Christians believe that demonic doctrines crept into the Catholic Church. How would you refute this?
 
johnz123 said:
I was attacked by anti-Catholic Christians online who were saying that the Catholic church is false and evil and that Jesus is re-crucified at every mass (I’ve heard this one before). I responded that that is false and that the Eucharist is a non-bloody sacrifice. I also said that the Catholic church compiled the bible.

This was the guys reply:

“Catholic comes from the Greek for universal. The Council of Nicea was in 325 AD. The New Testament was canonized then BUT if you do your research you’ll see it was only canonized because all 27 books were already well in circulation and recognized as from the Holy Spirit and authentic. It also settled a lot of heretical disputes. BUT if you know your catholic history you KNOW that century by century MORE demonic doctrines crept into the catholic church (hence why there was a divide between greek and roman), In time it was completely polluted hence God’s inspiration for the protestant reformation. And NO it is not a “protestant myth” that Christ’s flesh and blood must be offered again and again for grace, that’s called the eucharist and it’s in Catholic doctrine. I recommend watching Mike Winger’s Catholicism series as well as James Whites debates. I hope you can be set free to the glory of God.”

I didn’t realize some Christians believe that demonic doctrines crept into the Catholic Church. How would you refute this?
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To refute is to prove it is wrong or in error. Prove the the CC is today exactly doctrinally the same as it was when it was referred to as “The Way” and you will have succeeded.
 
johnz123 said:
BUT if you do your research you’ll see it was only canonized because all 27 books were already well in circulation and recognized as from the Holy Spirit and authentic.
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This is what it means to say the Church ‘canonized’ the New Testament. That we recognized which books were authentically inspired by the Holy Spirit.
 
That’s a good point. There were other books in circulation like the gospel of Peter that were not included
 
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How would you refute this?
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I would not attempt to. In my experience you can not change the mind of someone like that. It is the result of indoctrination. If someone was not reasoned in to a position you can not reason them out of it.
 
My sister and her husband are anti-Catholic Christians and constantly “attack” our beliefs. I’ve learned to just not bring up religion or beliefs when we’re all together.
 
There were several cannons (the one of marcion for example) and apocryphal gospels. Ask them what basis they have to know if the NT writings come from those to whom they are attributed, knowing that all our information comes from tradition, a tradition that also supports Catholic doctrines that Protestants reject.

In addition there were books, accepted by all Christians today, whose authenticity was denied as the second epistle of Peter, the Apocalypse, the epistle to the Hebrews in many parts of the Christian world. It was only after the guns were they universally accepted.

Ask him to prove his statements about heretical doctrines that have infiltrated Catholicism.
 
“Demonic doctrines”- sounds like a Chick disciple.

With people like Winger- that’s what happens when you wrongly believe that we each have our personal interpretation of scripture. Scripture itself says that is not supposed to be so.
 
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To refute is to prove it is wrong or in error. Prove the the CC is today exactly doctrinally the same as it was when it was referred to as “The Way” and you will have succeeded.
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It was accomplished with over 30,000 people last year in the US alone. It does happen. :+1:t3:

Peace!!!
 
At a cost of six million dollars?

(You know, I expected that post of mine above to get maxed out on likes, immediately.)
 
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johnz123 said:
I didn’t realize some Christians believe that demonic doctrines crept into the Catholic Church. How would you refute this?
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The Protestant reformation was founded on the idea that Catholicism was fundamentally tainted. Many believed that the Church’s doctrines were demonic and that the Pope was the anti-Christ. This has mostly calmed down now, but there’s still fundamentalist groups that believe this. Many of them are not possible to have a rational argument with, especially online. Some believe various conspiracy theories about the Church as well.
 
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