Anti-Semitism in Bible Commentaries

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I have been reading some old Bible commentaries, some written by Church fathers, and I have noticed something disturbing: the old Bible commentaries have some very harsh language in regard to the Jewish faith. I remember reading one bible commentary and the Saint that was speaking used the term, “That Stupid Jew. . .”

I am not the only one to notice this. The Haydock Biblical Commentary published within the 1800 was a Catholic Bible Commentary and it contains some very harsh language regarding the Jewish people.

My question is this: How can we Catholics today trust any Biblical Commentary or any proclaimed “Saint” of the church that uses harsh, condescending language against the Jewish faith? How can we trust that Biblical commentary to be under God’s grace?
Antisemitism is so scary - possibly, maybe demonic in origin. How disappointing is it that there are rumors that the early church fathers were anti-Semitic.
 
this is the link to the definitive, modern Church position

ewtn.com/library/CURIA/PBCJWSCR.HTM

It takes quite a while to digest this document, but it is important to the general subject of the importance of the Old Testament and to the absence of a basis for discrimination against Jews.

There is no Biblical basis for anti-semitism.

Just have to be careful understanding any of the ancient writings, including Church fathers.
 
Do these church fathers arrogantly think that they are so good that they can condescend the jewish faith?
 
I have been reading some old Bible commentaries, some written by Church fathers, and I have noticed something disturbing: the old Bible commentaries have some very harsh language in regard to the Jewish faith. I remember reading one bible commentary and the Saint that was speaking used the term, “That Stupid Jew. . .”

I am not the only one to notice this. The Haydock Biblical Commentary published within the 1800 was a Catholic Bible Commentary and it contains some very harsh language regarding the Jewish people.

My question is this: How can we Catholics today trust any Biblical Commentary or any proclaimed “Saint” of the church that uses harsh, condescending language against the Jewish faith? How can we trust that Biblical commentary to be under God’s grace?
Antisemitism is so scary - possibly, maybe demonic in origin. How disappointing is it that there are rumors that the early church fathers were anti-Semitic.
First, it would help if you would reference the specific quotations that are bothering you so other people can look at them.

Secondly, commentaries and footnotes are not divinely inspired. They are products of men, who are all sinners. So, we have to read critically to see what is of value and what is not of value in a particular footnote or commentary. The last several Popes have made a special effort to reach out to members of the Jewish faith (our older brothers in the faith, as Benedict XVI has called them) and to eliminate any type of anti-Semitism. We should remember that Jesus and all the apostles were Jews.
 
Do these church fathers arrogantly think that they are so good that they can condescend the jewish faith?
Saying “that stupid Jew” is like saying “that stupid Catholic”, it has nothing to do with the Truth of the Faith, simply a passing comment on a fallible human being by another equally or even more fallible human being.

Do you think Pilate was a smart Roman? Do you think those Jews who called for the Crucifixion of Jesus weren’t "STUPID?"


**There were many Jews, like Jesus, Mary, Joseph & 11 of the 12 Apostles & many disciples, including St. Paul, who were faithful & honorable Jews! Some were stupid Jews at times, but many ended up making the right decision!
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Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, OraPro Nobis Peccatoribus!

mark
 
Saying “that stupid Jew” is like saying “that stupid Catholic”, it has nothing to do with the Truth of the Faith, simply a passing comment on a fallible human being by another equally or even more fallible human being.

Do you think Pilate was a smart Roman? Do you think those Jews who called for the Crucifixion of Jesus weren’t "STUPID?"


**There were many Jews, like Jesus, Mary, Joseph & 11 of the 12 Apostles & many disciples, including St. Paul, who were faithful & honorable Jews! Some were stupid Jews at times, but many ended up making the right decision!
**
Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, OraPro Nobis Peccatoribus!

mark
Jews that don’t become Christians are stupid? Is this what you are saying?
 
Do these church fathers arrogantly think that they are so good that they can condescend the jewish faith?
Well, the Jewish faith, insofar as it rejects the divinity of Christ, is false.🤷

It is racism towards Jews that one must avoid.

But one must bear in mind that the saints were far from perfect, and one also must be mindful of the fact that the Church Fathers lived in a very different world from us.

Who knows, perhaps the good Catholics of the 23rd century might be shocked at some of the mannerisms of good Catholics today if they were to read about them.
 
I read the Fathers alot, and I dont see anything more harsh than how the Lord Himself talked to them, “You brood of vipers, how can you, being evil, speak what is good? For the mouth speaks out of that which fills the heart.” Matt 12:34, and there are many more passages. Keep in mind that in the early Church many Jews helped get Christians persecuted and killed. St. Polycarp, when he was being martyred, there were Jews who were helping to gather fuel to have him burned, as we see in the account of the Martyrdom of Polycarp chapter 13, the account says that they were accustomed to do things like that. Hard feelings toward the Jews was not racism like we see in separatists groups, there were some justifiable reasons. And, there was also the theological battles that Christians had with the Jews, and the Fathers of the Church spoke in the same spirit as did the Lord and John the Baptist when speaking to and about the Jews.
 
I read the Fathers alot, and I dont see anything more harsh than how the Lord Himself talked to them, “You brood of vipers, how can you, being evil, speak what is good? For the mouth speaks out of that which fills the heart.” Matt 12:34, and there are many more passages. Keep in mind that in the early Church many Jews helped get Christians persecuted and killed. St. Polycarp, when he was being martyred, there were Jews who were helping to gather fuel to have him burned, as we see in the account of the Martyrdom of Polycarp chapter 13, the account says that they were accustomed to do things like that. Hard feelings toward the Jews was not racism like we see in separatists groups, there were some justifiable reasons. And, there was also the theological battles that Christians had with the Jews, and the Fathers of the Church spoke in the same spirit as did the Lord and John the Baptist when speaking to and about the Jews.
"Although such beasts are unfit for work, they are fit for killing. And this is what happened to the Jews: while they were making themselves unfit for work, they grew fit for slaughter. This is why Christ said: “But as for these my enemies, who did not want me to be king over them, bring them here and slay them”.

A Catholic “saint” compares Jews to beasts fit only for slaughter.Now was that just a matter of “hard feelings” or were there some “justifiable reasons”?🤷
 
"Although such beasts are unfit for work, they are fit for killing. And this is what happened to the Jews: while they were making themselves unfit for work, they grew fit for slaughter. This is why Christ said: “But as for these my enemies, who did not want me to be king over them, bring them here and slay them”.

A Catholic “saint” compares Jews to beasts fit only for slaughter.Now was that just a matter of “hard feelings” or were there some “justifiable reasons”?🤷
Tell me then, when Scripture uses the same language for all who reject Christ, that judgment will come upon them for rejecting Christ, then what makes such statements about Jews who reject Christ any different? Jesus says, (John 15:6) “If anyone does not abide in Me, he is thrown away as a branch and dries up; and they gather them, and cast them into the fire and they are burned.” Such statements that you quoted (and please let me know where you cited that), are just as applicable to non-Jews who reject Christ. If I reject Christ then I am growing fit for the slaughter. Somehow people have gotten so politically correct that they think they have to hold Jews to a lower standard than everyone else, as if we have to never apply the same standard to Jews as to the rest of the world. The Jews who practice Orthodox Judiasm come from the Pharisees, and have you read how Jesus speaks about them? When saints are talking about Jews they are not talking about Jews as a race, but as those who reject the Messiah, the same ones who saw His miracles but were so hard hearted that they wanted Him dead, and the same ones who wanted Christians dead the centuries after.

The Jews had every reason to recognize Jesus because they had the Old Testament. There were many Jews who did recognize Christ and they became the first Christians, but there were many more who rejected Christ even after all His miracles. It is such hardness of heart, that after having all the right reasons to believe in Christ, to reject Him still is worthy of much greater judgment and rejection from God than those who did not have the same history as the Jews.
 
chosen people,

I just noticed that you are Jewish, and my last message I wrote thinking I was writing to another Christian. But as you can tell, the same language used by Catholic saints about Jews is the same language written about non-Jews who reject the Messiah. Certain rhetoric used by the saints was spoken more as a spiritual punishment and not so much physically, unless it is meant that certain people have rejected and offended God that God in turn permits people to be punished on earth, as we see in the Bible. Your Scriptures which are our Old Testament demonstrates that God has done that, even to Jews.
 
I’m really not sure why people would expect early Christians to have a happy dappy view of Jews… Considering from their perspective

First they Crusified the Christ, which while today we know this ultimitaly is the doing of all us sinners, none the less the Jews directly involved certainly would bare their share of blame. Peter certainly expected repentance and conversion from them, and was fairly successful.

Second, the Jews that continued to reject the Christ, immediatly started systematically persecuting the Fathers.

Third, the Jews kicked all Christians out of the synagog’s. Early on Christian jews still celebrated Jewish service, and then added the Lords supper later on in the day. This can actually be seen refereneced in the bible it’s self!

Apocalypse 3
drbo.org/chapter/73003.htm
7 And to the angel of the church of Philadelphia, write: These things saith the Holy One and the true one, he that hath the key of David; he that openeth, and no man shutteth; shutteth, and no man openeth: 8 I know thy works. Behold, I have given before thee a door opened, which no man can shut: because thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name. 9 Behold, I will bring of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie. Behold, I will make them to come and adore before thy feet. And they shall know that I have loved thee. 10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I will also keep thee from the hour of the temptation, which shall come upon the whole world to try them that dwell upon the earth.
11 Behold, I come quickly: hold fast that which thou hast, that no man take thy crown. 12 He that shall overcome, I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God; and he shall go out no more; and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God, and my new name. 13 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith to the churches.
Significant to early Christians, because they weren’t allowed in the Synagogs already by the time John wrote this.

So not to justify anti-semitism, but I find it shocking that anyone would expect early Christians wouldn’t have stronger feelings here than we do. They may be the commendable saints who won an incorruptable crown, but they were still human, still sinners, still weak like we are now.
 
Tell me then, when Scripture uses the same language for all who reject Christ, that judgment will come upon them for rejecting Christ, then what makes such statements about Jews who reject Christ any different? Jesus says, (John 15:6) “If anyone does not abide in Me, he is thrown away as a branch and dries up; and they gather them, and cast them into the fire and they are burned.” Such statements that you quoted (and please let me know where you cited that), are just as applicable to non-Jews who reject Christ. If I reject Christ then I am growing fit for the slaughter. Somehow people have gotten so politically correct that they think they have to hold Jews to a lower standard than everyone else, as if we have to never apply the same standard to Jews as to the rest of the world. The Jews who practice Orthodox Judiasm come from the Pharisees, and have you read how Jesus speaks about them? When saints are talking about Jews they are not talking about Jews as a race, but as those who reject the Messiah, the same ones who saw His miracles but were so hard hearted that they wanted Him dead, and the same ones who wanted Christians dead the centuries after.

The Jews had every reason to recognize Jesus because they had the Old Testament. There were many Jews who did recognize Christ and they became the first Christians, but there were many more who rejected Christ even after all His miracles. It is such hardness of heart, that after having all the right reasons to believe in Christ, to reject Him still is worthy of much greater judgment and rejection from God than those who did not have the same history as the Jews.
You have made a mistake in your translation…When Christ said that ‘‘Those who do not abide by Me are thrown away as a branch that dries up are gathered up and cast into the fire’’, meant that if you do not treat one another with love and kindness they are dead inside and have no love of God…not that Jews who choose to be Jewish are not loved by God or Christ. On the contrary, God no matter who you believe He is loves you, and will lead you to perform good works for yourselves and your fellow man. This is what God means for His children. Not to pick things apart and squabble over them. I would be highly offended by a lot of the comments some have made on this subject. I do not believe that Jews do not deserve the kingdom of Heaven, or that they are less than Christians or Catholics. Jesus was a Jew, and just because there are those who believe that they are somehow above Jews because they are Catholic and were baptized into the Catholic religion/Christian religion, is not proper thinking. Jews are equal in respect to others, as well as their religious belief. And Elohim is also the same God that Catholics, even though we call Him by another name, loves us and looks for us to love one another. And to be kind to one another. We should work to understand one another better. Not get into trying to convert one another into or out of our chosen religious beliefs.
Shalom and God’s peace be with you COPLAND3.
 
I’m sorry for the mistake…I meant this comment for chosen people…or to anyone interested in getting a better idea that the Jews were not being fit for the slaughter.So sorry.

And to my Jewish friends on this site, Shalom and God be with you.
 
Jews that don’t become Christians are stupid? Is this what you are saying?
He may be sticking his foot in his mouth, but I would like to say God’s peace be with you hellopeople. Jews aren’t stupid. They follow a close relationship with God. Even if they do not believe the Messiah has come to us yet. God is with all of us. And he wants us to treat one another with respect, love, and kindness. I would be willing to listen to a Jew if he/she were to speak of God to me. Or anything else for that sake. I have Jews who married into my family’s families. I have uttmost respect for one’s choice as far as religions go. Catholics aren’t the only ones who will inherit the kingdom of Heaven.

🙂
God’s peace be with you.
 
I have no problem stating I think Jews who reject Christ are choosing an incomplete, unfulfilled faith. Since these people reject Christ because they don’t beleive the Christ (and now believe radically different things about the coming Messiah than was believed then) I guess it’s understandable, but still sad. Christ is the fulfillment of the law, of the faith, of the promise to Adam/Noah/Abraham/Issac/Jacob/et al.

As for what this does in terms of salvation, certainly I place all non-Christians upon the home of God’s Mercy. I think it’s fair to say scriptures do address Jews directly in terms of final salvation, and it does clearly state that there will certainly be saved Jews. So there is no valid reason to believe they’re all not going to make it.

That doesn’t mean I’m not praying they will come to accept the Christ, and glory in the fulfillment of the promises made to the patriarchs.
 
You have made a mistake in your translation…When Christ said that ‘‘Those who do not abide by Me are thrown away as a branch that dries up are gathered up and cast into the fire’’, meant that if you do not treat one another with love and kindness they are dead inside and have no love of God…not that Jews who choose to be Jewish are not loved by God or Christ. On the contrary, God no matter who you believe He is loves you, and will lead you to perform good works for yourselves and your fellow man. This is what God means for His children. Not to pick things apart and squabble over them. I would be highly offended by a lot of the comments some have made on this subject. I do not believe that Jews do not deserve the kingdom of Heaven, or that they are less than Christians or Catholics. Jesus was a Jew, and just because there are those who believe that they are somehow above Jews because they are Catholic and were baptized into the Catholic religion/Christian religion, is not proper thinking. Jews are equal in respect to others, as well as their religious belief. And Elohim is also the same God that Catholics, even though we call Him by another name, loves us and looks for us to love one another. And to be kind to one another. We should work to understand one another better. Not get into trying to convert one another into or out of our chosen religious beliefs.
Shalom and God’s peace be with you COPLAND3.
Mary, Scripture is very clear that Christ is the way, and when people reject Him there are grave consequences, and they become more grave when people reject Him when they have been given more revealed to them. God’s love and mercy is beyond our comprehension, and His righteous judgment is also a reality that should never be overlooked. The seriousness of God’s commands is not to be taken as all roads lead to Heaven, as your language appears to represent. The commission from Christ to go and make disciples of all nations is not optional or loose and broad to where you can believe anything.
 
So not to justify anti-semitism, but I find it shocking that anyone would expect early Christians wouldn’t have stronger feelings here than we do…
Okay so anti-Jewish attitudes against Jews in the Catholic Church may be justified, if I understood your post, for 3 reasons. The first is that the Jews “Crucified the Christ”.

Now how did this happen?

Supposedly the figure of Yeshua bar Yosef was so popular among the Jews that the Romans deemed it wise to arrest him and execute him, presumably as a political agitator/leader. However, after he is arrested he is apparently so unpopular among the Jews, that the Romans are now “forced” to execute him, because of his unpopularity.

Now Judea was a vassal state under Rome so it’s not clear why they would defer to the Jews or the Sanhedria in making a decision to arrest and execute a Jew whom they considered a liability. In any case, the Sanhedria under Jewish law could not order anyone executed unless someone was willing to speak in his defense (the people involved in writing the Christian scriptures were perhaps unfamiliar with Jewish Law). Had he been sentenced by the Sanhedria he would have been stoned to death. If the crowds were so unruly couldn’t they easily have accomplished this? If the Romans wanted “to wash their hands” of the whole thing, and the Jews had in fact sentenced to him death and wished to see him die, why not just leave Yeshua to the Jews?

Of course, we have to understand how it came about that the same person who could draw crowds of thousands, suddenly, literally overnight,turned against him. This is explained as Yeshua claiming to be a god and rejecting Torah. The problem here is that suddenly, almost all people, Jew and non-Jew (Romans) are not able to recognize God, even face to face. This is the first time that this has ever happened. Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, Moses, the judges and the prophets and the nation of Israel are never in doubt that God is before them. This problem only arises with the figure of Yeshua in Christianity.

Now it is not clear why a single person would engender such an extreme reaction, however from a Jewish perspective according to God’s law in the Torah, the death sentence (by stoning) would have been indicated to a person advocating rejecting Torah and claiming to be a god in human form. So at best “The Jews” are being blamed for acting in accordance with the eternal covenant between God and the Jewish people (the logic here is that God made an eternal covenant with the Jewish people whose sole purpose was to bring the Jews to aid in the killing of the same God in human form because he stood in total contradiction to the eternal covenant between God and the Jews)🤷

Finally, according to Christian theology the whole point to the life of Yeshua bar Yosef was to sacrifice himself for the sins of mankind, and since Christians believe that Yeshua is a god and since it is impossible for a human to overcome a god - it follows that all actions leading to the execution of the Christian deity,were according to the Christian perspective, a part of their god’s plan.

So even forgetting the incongruities we can be sure that the Christian messiah was executed by the Romans, We can also be sure that not only did the Romans not have any inkling that this was a god but that the Jews did not even take him seriously enough to stone him. Of course, “Roman” Catholics don’t blame “the Romans” they blame “the Jews”

The second reason given is persecution of Christians. While a few martyrs are mentioned we never get any reliable historical evidence of this supposed wide spread persecution of Christians by Jews. The fact is that the Jews were caught up in a rebellion against Rome from 66 c.e. to 135 c.e and weren’t really in a position to do anything but defend themselves. However, we do know that the Romans systematically persecuted Christians as they did not qualify for the privi lege (2 words) of exemption from the Emperor’s religious ceremonies. Romans literally feed the Christians to the lions. Of course, “Roman” Catholics never discuss on this forum persecutions by the Romans, they do however have a lot to say about supposed persecutions by Jews (which apparently “just” ended about 1800 years ago but somehow justify 2000 years of Christian anti-Semitism).

Your third reason is that Jews developed laws against Christians. Which is certainly strange as the Jewish religion teaches that the Gentile has an easier path to the world to come than for the Jew, while the history of the Church is full of Papal bulls and Church edicts involved in denying basic civil and legal rights to the Jews.

The purpose of this thread should have been to acknowledge the existence of these anti Jewish attitudes in the Catholic Church and to show that since Vatican II, the Church has made a real and sincere effort to eliminate these attitudes among Catholic adherents. Instead, it has become a thread justifying and explaining Christian anti-Semitism.
 
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