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I was reading about a woman who abandoned her Quiverfull beliefs (along with her Christianity), and then went on to read the comments on the article. I saw these supposed quotes from early Christian figures:
ORIGEN:
“It is improper for a woman to speak in assembly, for no matter what she says it is of little consequence since it comes from the mouth of a woman.”
TERTULLIAN:
“Woman is a temple built over a sewer; the gateway to the devil.”
MARTIN LUTHER:
“If women bear themselves wear or bear themselves to death, that does not hurt. Let them die. This is why they exist.”
SAINT AUGUSTINE:
“I fail to see what use woman can be to man, if one excludes the function of bearing children.”
CLEMENT OF ALEXANDRIA:
“Every woman should be filled with shame by the thought that she is a woman.”
I did a very quick and rough google search (maybe just 2 minutes) on some of the quotes above but came up with nothing to refute these quotes (or confirm their accuracy).
Would like to know if anyone has seen these quotations before and what to make of them. I know Origen and Tertullian are not saints and vaguely recall that one of them (not sure now which) even became a heretic. And so did Martin Luther. But St. Augustine and St. Clement…
Here is the link to the article: rawstory.com/rs/2014/09/656002/comments/
On another note: It is easy enough to refute the statements in the article made against the Quiverfull movement and to maybe give a remedy to “perfect” the movement (like need guidance from Church teaching, need to study the example of the Blessed Virgin Mary on the role of women on the domestic Church, etc.) but I am more interested on the anti-women quotes cited by one of the commentors on the article.
(Comments are way down at the bottom, and this particular comment I cut-and-pasted above was the very top comment, at least when I last checked.)
Thanks for all the help!
I would do a more thorough google search later…
ORIGEN:
“It is improper for a woman to speak in assembly, for no matter what she says it is of little consequence since it comes from the mouth of a woman.”
TERTULLIAN:
“Woman is a temple built over a sewer; the gateway to the devil.”
MARTIN LUTHER:
“If women bear themselves wear or bear themselves to death, that does not hurt. Let them die. This is why they exist.”
SAINT AUGUSTINE:
“I fail to see what use woman can be to man, if one excludes the function of bearing children.”
CLEMENT OF ALEXANDRIA:
“Every woman should be filled with shame by the thought that she is a woman.”
I did a very quick and rough google search (maybe just 2 minutes) on some of the quotes above but came up with nothing to refute these quotes (or confirm their accuracy).
Would like to know if anyone has seen these quotations before and what to make of them. I know Origen and Tertullian are not saints and vaguely recall that one of them (not sure now which) even became a heretic. And so did Martin Luther. But St. Augustine and St. Clement…
Here is the link to the article: rawstory.com/rs/2014/09/656002/comments/
On another note: It is easy enough to refute the statements in the article made against the Quiverfull movement and to maybe give a remedy to “perfect” the movement (like need guidance from Church teaching, need to study the example of the Blessed Virgin Mary on the role of women on the domestic Church, etc.) but I am more interested on the anti-women quotes cited by one of the commentors on the article.
(Comments are way down at the bottom, and this particular comment I cut-and-pasted above was the very top comment, at least when I last checked.)
Thanks for all the help!
I would do a more thorough google search later…