Any good news in the coronavirus hit world?

[JoeFreedom]

I agree, the market will bounce back when this is over.

It will bounce back but the longer it goes the longer it will take. I do it agree it will. My thoughts on this have evolved. I used to think, yeah… people are just waiting to go out, eat, go back on planes and cruises, do things, spend money… and that’s true. However, once we get out of this, many people won’t have money to spend because they lost their jobs and people won’t have as many places to spend it because many companies will have gone out of business, so while the desire will be there, the means may not. That’s not to say I’m being pessimistic about it, I used to be that, and I’d much rather be an optimist. So I’m hopefully that it will come back quicker than I think it will. I know will eventually, and I know we will get out of this.

So there’s hope at least.

 

[TheLittleLady]

God is still in control.

Spring is bursting out here in the USA, flowers and trees are beautiful. I wake up to a chorus of hundreds of songbirds.

 

[HarryStotle]

Tis_Bearself:

I agree, the market will bounce back when this is over.

It will bounce back but the longer it goes the longer it will take. I do it agree it will. My thoughts on this have evolved. I used to think, yeah… people are just waiting to go out, eat, go back on planes and cruises, do things, spend money… and that’s true. However, once we get out of this, many people won’t have money to spend because they lost their jobs and people won’t have as many places to spend it because many companies will have gone out of business, so while the desire will be there, the means may not. That’s not to say I’m being pessimistic about it, I used to be that, and I’d much rather be an optimist. So I’m hopefully that it will come back quicker than I think it will. I know will eventually, and I know we will get out of this.

So there’s hope at least.

One good suggestion I have read is for serology testing to be developed and scaled rapidly to identify those whose immune systems have dealt with the virus so they are safe to return to work and normal activity hopefully without risk of themselves being infected again since they have developed the antibodies to resist the virus.

Massive Coronavirus Testing Is the Way to Help Save the Economy

The fastest and safest way out of the rising coronavirus pandemic is "to test as many people as possible," argue…

reason.com

 

[JoeFreedom]

I still cannot understand why the 80% of us have to stay at home to protect the 20%. There is a rule we use at work called the 80/20 rule and it applies in so many ways (e.g.: business, sociology, etc…). If the 80% who are under 50, over 60 with no underlying health conditions, etc. were allowed to continue to work and we “sequestered” the 20% who are most at risk, wouldn’t that make more sense? Shelter them by not allowing those with the virus to infect them and keep them safe all the while keeping our global economy from crashing into oblivion and tens of thousands of others from dying because charity work has been drastically reduced.

Edit: To add that the beds are being taken up mostly by those with other conditions, are older, etc. and people are losing it because they believe they will be on respirators, but as we have seen, people are recovering.

 

[debgab]

 

[Kei]

Well, this allows a lot of love to flow from those caring for the sick. Being under stay-at-home orders means the family may get to be together for some quality time. The illusion of a physical utopia free from suffering may be shattered. We have more time to go slowly and get more in touch with God and rely on Him. But will we?

Remember to not self-prescribe as that is dangerous and potentially deadly!

 

[Convert3]

Well stated Penny! May I borrow that?

 

[PennyinCanada]

Thank you. Please do.
We always knew the country runs on unsung heroes who show up for work and take care of their family.

 

[JoeFreedom]

Here’s some good news if you can read into it as such.

Underlying disease might change the course of Covid-19. During the height of the epidemic in Wuhan, 37 of 230 patients receiving dialysis for kidney failure at Renmin Hospital developed the disease. Even though none were sick enough to require intensive care or a mechanical ventilator, six of them died, for a very high fatality rate of 16%. Oddly, however, none of the six died of pneumonia, Renmin researchers reported. Instead, the causes of death were heart disease, stroke, and high blood levels of potassium (a result of kidney failure). The high fatality rate of Covid-19 in already-sick people might result not from the virus but from an exacerbation of existing disease.

Thus, the disease itself is not what is deadly.

 

[0Scarlett_nidiyilii]

I am not arguing suits vs front lines, so your objection is a red herring. I was arguing the relative value of celebrities and sports professionals vs hospital administrators.

But why? It’s the people doing direct patient care who are doing the heavy lifting.
That’s why I thought it was weird for you to compare celebrities to administrators.

 

[HarryStotle]

HarryStotle:

I am not arguing suits vs front lines, so your objection is a red herring. I was arguing the relative value of celebrities and sports professionals vs hospital administrators.

But why? It’s the people doing direct patient care who are doing the heavy lifting.
That’s why I thought it was weird for you to compare celebrities to administrators.

If you read the post I originally responded to, the comparison was between famous sports figures / celebrities and people who keep grocery store shelves stocked. I would agree that at this particular time those who work in grocery stores ought to be lauded for what they do — even with extra pay.

However, the current situation isn’t the normal and the skill set required normally to stock shelves doesn’t require highly qualified people — although in the current situation these people are being heroic.

The question of reassessing priorities in terms of how different jobs and occupations are remunerated is one that we ought not merely walk away from and go back to normal.

There is a difference between highly skilled and highly valuable skills. It is the focus on value — true value — that we should seriously contemplate.

I would argue that sports figures and celebrities may be skilled, but the value of those skills should be reassessed by society. I am all for adjusting how different occupations are paid, but I don’t think that can be a heat of the moment kind of decision.

I also don’t believe it ought to be government controlled or imposed. What should happen is that each of us, and all of us as a society, especially those with wealth, should assess what we are supporting by our spending and actions day to day.

The reason celebrities and pro sports figures are highly paid is because many in society are quite willing to pay hundreds and thousands of dollars for tickets to a game or event. Perhaps the severity of the pandemic will make us reassess what we support with the money we have and why we do so. That reassessment should not be driven by envy or animus, but a more clear realization of what it is that has real worth in life.

 

[MrZoom]

This article says the rate of hospital admissions in New York for COVID-19 is decreasing.

New York coronavirus hospital admission rates decreasing

'Evidence suggests density control plan may be working,' Governor Andrew Cuomo says

www.independent.co.uk

 

[eydey]

@Linhares, I try to limit my exposure to coronavirus news. I will consume enough to keep me and my family safe. And learn how to keep others safe. You don’t have to go far for good news. In your prayer time, express thanks for the situation, things, and people in your life. ray:t4:

 

[HarryStotle]

All I can read about online or anywhere is about the coronavirus pandemic. Even here in India, cases are increasing every hour.

I was just wondering is there any positive / good news there in the world right now? Is there any hope left? Will God come to our rescue? I know he always has everything in control. But right now its so hard to see it.

It appears a serology test to determine that someone has had COVID and developed immunity is now available for wide use in labs using blood likely to be taken for testing at clinics and hospitals for admission and diagnosis.

https://leapsmag.com/breaking-the-f...tial-immunity-to-covid-19-was-just-developed/

The reason this is important is that people can return to work without concern that they might contract the disease that they already are immune to.

 

[Phemie]

Well, let me just say that when we saw our financial adviser in Feb., our RRSPs were doing very well. A month later they are worth a heck of a lot less. I’m 66, hubby is 70. We don’t have the luxury of waiting for the markets to recover.

 

[HomeschoolDad]

I still cannot understand why the 80% of us have to stay at home to protect the 20%. There is a rule we use at work called the 80/20 rule and it applies in so many ways (e.g.: business, sociology, etc…). If the 80% who are under 50, over 60 with no underlying health conditions, etc. were allowed to continue to work and we “sequestered” the 20% who are most at risk, wouldn’t that make more sense? Shelter them by not allowing those with the virus to infect them and keep them safe all the while keeping our global economy from crashing into oblivion and tens of thousands of others from dying because charity work has been drastically reduced.

Aside from the fact that we still know very little about this virus, and people don’t even know whether they have it until they’ve already infected many other people, it’s a matter of the Fifth Commandment and just good old common sense (not suggesting that you wish to violate the former and don’t have the latter, just stating the fact).

Even if I were an atheist, I would still be doing precisely what I’m doing now — stay at home, no social contact, only go out for absolutely necessary reasons, and keep any contact as distant, as minimal, and as fleeting as possible. I am using online apps to shop wherever possible, including curb service for online grocery orders. I am retired and we homeschool. So far nobody is sick.

 

[PennyinCanada]

Some good news…
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[Peeps]

I fully agree that the nurses, techs, EMTs and doctors are bearing the brunt of this and deserve better. Perhaps scaling back the outsized amounts going to celebrities/sports pros ought to be the first consideration rather than being ignored?

Do you have any further suggestions as to positions in society that earn recompense far beyond their real worth? I would think there are quite a number of “jobs” done by people that requite them far beyond their value. One that comes to mind, for example, are executives of cosmetic companies. Jean-Paul Agon, for example, who was CEO of L’Oreal (perhaps still is) was compensated €24.5 million (£19.3 million) a year from 2013 to 2015.

I’m one of those techs (lab tech/microbiology) who is working hard during this outbreak!

I appreciate your kind thoughts, but think about this–I really LOVE watching my favorite actors on TV (not a big movie fan, but I do love watching my favorites!), and I love buying albums (good ol’ fashioned CDs for me!) by my favorite singers and groups, and I absolutely LOVE watching my favorite athletes in person and on TV!

A bigger salary would certainly be nice, but these celebs and athletes truly do help me to enjoy my off-hours immensely, and l think a lot of people feel the same way. My mother (R.I.P.) had rheumatoid arthritis that made it almost impossible for her to get around or move without a lot of pain, but oh, did she ever LOVE her Chicago Cubs–knew all the players names and positions and stats, and loved watching the games. She was also a big music fan and got a lot of enjoyment out of listening to the radio–she even liked modern music! And she loved the soap opera “All My Children”-- the beautiful people on the show cheered her up in her own pain and hopeless condition.

Many of the celebs and athletes do things that most of us couldn’t do if we were paid a million dollars just to try! Acting is hard! And so is singing and dancing, or directing a show or writing a novel or a screenplay or a television script. As for professional athletes–I think I would end up ripping my arm off if I ever tried throwing a ball like they do! And the constant training to keep up their fitness level, and the pressure to perform well when most needed.

My husband has a way of explaining high salaries that might interest you. These people influence millions of people at the same time, and if you divide up their salary among all these millions of people, they are actually being paid less than someone like me, who influences approximately 200 people a day (I interpret cultures and set up susceptibility tests for patients with infecitons). If you divide up my salary among these 200 people, I am being paid more PER PERSON than the celebs!

 

[Pattylt]

Air pollution is down…dramatically in large cities. Fewer car accidents, too. The ozone is healing. My neighbor’s crocuses are in bloom! The nights are much quieter. The doves that perch on my chimney each day are cooing away. Children are learning to self entertain, even if it’s a bit painful for them. Neighbors are taking walks and distantly chatting to each other. Dogs are in seventh heaven with the masters and mistresses at home…

 

[Nepperhan]

Crime is down all over due to the crisis!

"Like other major U.S. cities, Chicago has seen a dip in crime with the COVID-19 pandemic disrupting virtually every aspect of the country’s way of life.
Despite beginning 2020 with crime spikes, particularly related to gun violence, Chicago saw a sudden single-week drop of nearly 20% in major crimes in mid-March, records show. That was just as much activity in Chicago was slowing.
Gov. J.B. Pritzker closed schools across Illinois, Chicago bars and restaurants shuttered, and a statewide stay-at-home directive went into effect Saturday.
Since March 18, Chicago has only had two homicides, a fatal shooting on the South Side and another on the West Side.
From March 16 through March 22, the latest compiled period available, Chicago police saw a 17% overall drop from the prior seven days in its seven major crime categories, among them robberies, burglaries and aggravated batteries. That same period also was down from the same stretch in 2019, official city data shows — a 19% decrease. The current drop comes at a time when Chicago had seen jumps in violence through much of the first three months of 2020. "