Any news from Birmingham Alabama about next bishop?

[Irenic]

MikeinSD:

Fr. Oscar is retiring? Archbishop of Mobile?

No. Bishop David E. Foley of the Diocese of Birmingham is retiring. I really would like to know where I could get an update on the process of choosing his replacement, as my parish is in this Diocese.

I’m supposed to meet Bishop Foley next Saturday as part of the Rite of Election, but I’m pretty sure it’d be bad form to ask him about it.

 

[frommi]

msproule:

Furthermore, with valid Sacraments and Holy Orders, aren’t PNCC Bishops also Successors to the Apostles? So I suppose with that mentality, they should be given a platform, too.

It really matters not. I doubt “control” over EWTN will have anything to do with the decision.

I highly doubt it will either. It’s a free country. You can put whatever you want on tv…even a modern age nun with the personality of a 1950’s rectory housekeeper.

 

[frommi]

Irenic:

No. Bishop David E. Foley of the Diocese of Birmingham is retiring. I really would like to know where I could get an update on the process of choosing his replacement, as my parish is in this Diocese.

I’m supposed to meet Bishop Foley next Saturday as part of the Rite of Election, but I’m pretty sure it’d be bad form to ask him about it.

Well, the poor man was told he could retire…but it turned out JPII hadn’t quite gotten around to it…so it was put on hold for a month or two…

Throw in the fact that the new apostolic nuncio is attending his first ordination/installation tomorrow in Nashville…and the number of sees that have been vacant longer (Sioux Falls and Honolulu come to mind)…I think you could be waiting a while.

 

[msproule]

frommi:

I highly doubt it will either…

Then why did you suggest it in the first place, other than to interject yet another predictably inflammatory statement?

 

[frommi]

msproule:

Then why did you suggest it in the first place, other than to interject yet another predictably inflammatory statement?

This thread started with a question about an auxilary being appointed just for television ministry in Birmingham. thats where it started.

 

[msproule]

frommi:

This thread started with a question about an auxilary being appointed just for television ministry in Birmingham. thats where it started.

I did not realize you were speaking specifically about the auxiliary question. OK, sorry.

On that subject, I do not think there should or would be an auxiliary for that purpose. As Brendan pointed out, there is little if any reason to control the network.

 

[oat_soda]

i hope the next bishop will allow ewtn to televise the mass with the priest ad orientem, but i’m not going to hold my breath.

 

[shs-aod]

Admittedly, Birmingham has been vacant for about 9 months now, but may still be months away from the appointment of a successor. Let’s look at a few comparable situations (similar-size dioceses) in the past couple of years to see what the average duration of “vacant sees” has been:

(1) Sioux City IA waited 23 months between the transfer of Bishop Dinardo to Houston (Jan 2004) and the assignment of Bishop Nickless as successor (Nov 2005).

(2) Nashville TN was vacant for 16 months between the transfer of Bishop Kmiec to Buffalo (Aug 2004) and the naming of Msgr. Choby as successor (Dec 2005)

(3) Grand Rapids MI had a 14 month vacancy from the time of Bp. Kevin Britt’s death until Bp. Walter Hurley’s assignment.

(4) Sioux Falls SD is still vacant since Bishop Carlson’s transfer to Saginaw over 14 months ago.

(5) Both Youngstown OH and Lake Charles LA have been vacant for 12 months since their Bishops were transferred to other dioceses. (Bp. Tobin to Providence RI and Bp. Braxton to Belleville IL, respectively)

 

[Illini]

frommi:

I highly doubt it will either. It’s a free country. You can put whatever you want on tv…even a modern age nun with the personality of a 1950’s rectory housekeeper.

 I don't understand. On the Saginaw threads, you repeatedly and vehemently object to even mild criticism of the late Bishop Untener's policies, and yet you see no problem with a cheap shot at a woman religious who has inspired many on and off this forum. On another thread, you confidently declare you want to stay as far away from anything to do with Mother Angelica as possible, but castigate those who say similar things about certain bishops.

 Why the double standard?

-Illini

 

[frommi]

Illini:

I don’t understand. On the Saginaw threads, you repeatedly and vehemently object to even mild criticism of the late Bishop Untener’s policies, and yet you see no problem with a cheap shot at a woman religious who has inspired many on and off this forum. On another thread, you confidently declare you want to stay as far away from anything to do with Mother Angelica as possible, but castigate those who say similar things about certain bishops.

 Why the double standard?

-Illini

Well for one, she’s not a bishop…and for another, she’s spent an awful lot of time castigating anyone who doesn’t fit her narrow definition of catholicism.

 

[Walking_Home]

Illini:

I don’t understand. On the Saginaw threads, you repeatedly and vehemently object to even mild criticism of the late Bishop Untener’s policies, and yet you see no problem with a cheap shot at a woman religious who has inspired many on and off this forum. On another thread, you confidently declare you want to stay as far away from anything to do with Mother Angelica as possible, but castigate those who say similar things about certain bishops.

 Why the double standard?

-Illini

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Why the double standard?

Because there are those that do not want the Church to right itself. They need the turmoil, it gives them a reason to exit.
Any priest and/or bishop that contributes to the distablization of the Church only strengthens their cause.

Mother Angelica and EWTN is a threat to them. The Holy Spirit has given her the strength to stand up and speak the against injustice and falsehood.

Thru EWTN, people become aware of the true teachings of the Church. The televised Mass, gives people the incentive to act, to do what is needed to get rid of abuses in their own parishes.

They consider EWTN a “parallel” Church, since they consider themselves the “true” Church.

 

[CatQuilt]

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Why the double standard?

Because there are those that do not want the Church to right itself. They need the turmoil, it gives them a reason to exit.
Any priest and/or bishop that contributes to the distablization of the Church only strengthens their cause.

Mother Angelica and EWTN is a threat to them. The Holy Spirit has given her the strength to stand up and speak the against injustice and falsehood.

Thru EWTN, people become aware of the true teachings of the Church. The televised Mass, gives people the incentive to act, to do what is needed to get rid of abuses in their own parishes.

They consider EWTN a “parallel” Church, since they consider themselves the “true” Church.

Brilliant.

 

[m134e5]

frommi:

Well for one, she’s not a bishop…and for another, she’s spent an awful lot of time castigating anyone who doesn’t fit her narrow definition of catholicism.

Sometimes the narrow path is the right one. Remember St. Athanasius…

 

[JW10631]

I hope that the next Bishop of Birmingham sees EWTN as an ally and not as something to be controlled.

I have seen Mother Angelica rant against the people who had it coming. As for haivng a “narrow” view of the Church, there’s nothing wrong with orthodox Catholicism. I prefer it.

If the next Bishop of Birmingham gave permission for the Tridentine indult, EWTN would televise it the next day.

 

[Walking_Home]

JW10631:

If the next Bishop of Birmingham gave permission for the Tridentine indult, EWTN would televise it the next day.

I am praying that the next bishop will be sympathetic to the TLM.
Many of us do not have access to the TLM anywhere nearby, so seeing a TLM from EWTN would be nice.

 

[frommi]

JW10631:

I have seen Mother Angelica rant against the people who had it coming. As for haivng a “narrow” view of the Church, there’s nothing wrong with orthodox Catholicism. I prefer it.

If the next Bishop of Birmingham gave permission for the Tridentine indult, EWTN would televise it the next day.

So much for turn the other cheek…nice orthodoxy…

And if that network would televise the tridentine mass…all the more reason to think the network has its priorities out of whack

 

[Carrie_Andrews]

frommi:

They are all successors of the apostles…that channel has no right to encourage disobedience based on their narrow view of catholicism. The motto of that network should be “EWTN: Because none of you can possibly do any worse”

What is your source of information? Do you normally make blanket statements like this without giving reasons? I’ve read Ramond A. book about Mother Angelicas life and this explains what went on with the bishops. I love EWTN, I believe God placed EWTN on the air. If you don’t like it, don’t watch.

 

[irenaeus1]

frommi:

So much for turn the other cheek…nice orthodoxy…

And if that network would televise the tridentine mass…all the more reason to think the network has its priorities out of whack

What does turning the other cheek have to do with anything? We’re talking about admonishing. Apparently, you are one of those very selective Bible readers where Jesus’ admonition and condemnatory statements are simply ignored. If your brother refuses correction after you have called him on it, and then refuses correction from others, and finally refuses correction from the Church, then we are to turn the other cheek, right? According to frommi, but not according to Jesus.

Again, you continue to demonstrate that the network is on track - for about the third time on this thread now.

In Christ,
Irenaeus

 

[8640]

frommi:

narrow definition of catholicism.

I think you are the one with a narrow view of Catholicism

This comment is an interesting one - you’ve used it several times on this thread. You do realize that this is the Catholic church and not a protestant one where different interpretations and views just flow merrily along. I mean truth is truth - I don’t care if you are looking at it from a wide angle lense or a narrow one. I thought walking the straight and narrow was a good thing

 

[frommi]

irenaeus1:

What does turning the other cheek have to do with anything? We’re talking about admonishing. Apparently, you are one of those very selective Bible readers where Jesus’ admonition and condemnatory statements are simply ignored. If your brother refuses correction after you have called him on it, and then refuses correction from others, and finally refuses correction from the Church, then we are to turn the other cheek, right? According to frommi, but not according to Jesus.

Again, you continue to demonstrate that the network is on track - for about the third time on this thread now.

In Christ,
Irenaeus

So what gives a tv network and a nun the right to be the national admonisher of the Catholic church and its bishops.