Any Pro-Life Democrat Presidential Candidates?

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Flopfoot said:
Do you just mean he had their support until he won the primary? Also, was he pro life?
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Carter doesn’t come out and say he’s pro-life AFAIK, but he does advise the Democrats to cool or tone down the abortion talk.
 
Jimmy Carter is a great man. I’m convinced history will look good on him.
 
I just looked through every current one here, and none are. At best, you might get one that doesn’t seem to focus much on the issue but supports it when given the option.
 
Pro choice means you believe people should have the choice to kill if they want to. Pro life means you don’t. They are mutually exclusive
 
Same for Al and Tipper Gore!

Now they’re divorced, and Al Gore is about as pro-choice as they come. Don’t know about Tipper, but since she isn’t a force in the Democratic Party, it doesn’t matter what her abortion views are.
 
Peeps said:
it doesn’t matter what her abortion views are
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Well, in a way, everyone’s abortion views matter. The problem is not in politics or the law. It is in the hearts of common folk. That’s why we have pro-choice candidates.
 
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I’ve said this before on CAF, but it bears repeating. LOTS of us, especially those of us who were not Catholic, used to be pro-choice because we were ignorant of what abortion actually is.

But after we did some studying and learned more, we switched our views. And I hope that no one will hold my teen and college years against me, because I feel that I have more than made up for it by activism in the pro-life movement.

Your posts give the impression that you think the only reason politicians state certain beliefs is that they want to win. Well, back when Pres. Reagan was running for the Presidency, I believe that the majority of Americans leaned towards pro-choice viewpoints, even Catholics.

Now, many polls show that the majority of Americans are against abortion in the later stages of pregnancy (hence, this Born Alive legislation is going to haunt many of these silly Democrats because they are basing their actions on public opinion in their Big Cities, not mainstream America).

Again, though, my point is that people change their minds–that’s one reason the pro-life activists are constantly producing and handing out literature and participating in debates–many people become pro-life when they hear the facts. Don’t hold this against Pres. Reagan, Pres. Bush, Mr. Romney, or Pres. Trump. Rather, praise them for having the courage to turn to the truth, and CONDEMN the Democrats who continue to promote a culture of violence and murder.

As for me, it’s hard to believe that Democrats are all sympathetic and loving towards anyone (immigrants, African-Americans, LGBTQ, etc.) when they are at the same time willing to kill all of these people before they are born.
 
I truly believe independents will outnumber republicans and democrats soon, if they don’t already anyways.

I also believe it will be hard for anyone to be surprised.
 
Sbee0 said:
She voted no on the Born Alive survivors Protection Act Bill, and co-sponsored another bill to protect abortion clinics among other things.
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Have you looked at why the vote was cast this way? If you can give me the official number of the legislation referenced, I will read it and see if there were any things in the bill that have not been reported by media.
 
When do you think human life begins? When does a living thing become a human?
 
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Our current governor’s father, our former governor, was a “pro-life” democrat.
Sadly, his son did not get the memo that all life is sacred.
 
Erikaspirit16 said:
Pro-choice does NOT mean you are for abortion
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Of course it means they’re for it. Even if they don’t actively celebrate it, they at least support it to the extent of seeking to defend the practice. If a religion mandated the human sacrifice of a black person every Saturday, politicians wouldn’t suddenly go, “Well, I’m not for this, but they should be allowed to practice their religion.” Even if some did, we would hardly call them “pro-life” or think of them as believing black lives matter.
 
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If a religion mandated the human sacrifice of a black person every Saturday, politicians wouldn’t suddenly go, “Well, I’m not for this, but they should be allowed to practice their religion.” Even if some did, we would hardly call them “pro-life” or think of them as believing black lives matter.
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You’re repeating an argument (with variations–most start with slavery and go from there) I’ve heard over and over. It’s fallacious. Why? Because all religions agree on almost all moral issues: murder, theft, perjury, etc. There are fringe groups who believe in things like child marriage or polygamy. And yes, the overwhelming majority imposes its morality in that case. But here’s the thing: abortion is NOT one of those areas where there is agreement. In fact, there is overwhelming DISAGREEMENT. So for any small faction to impose its will on the overwhelming majority (as pro-lifers want to do by making all abortions illegal) is simply–I’ll let you pick a word. For one thing, it would be ineffective. Argentina outlaws abortion. But there are approx. 500,000 abortions in Argentina every year. The only thing the law has done is to endanger the lives of the mothers.
 
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ZMystiCat:
If a religion mandated the human sacrifice of a black person every Saturday, politicians wouldn’t suddenly go, “Well, I’m not for this, but they should be allowed to practice their religion.” Even if some did, we would hardly call them “pro-life” or think of them as believing black lives matter.
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You’re repeating an argument (with variations–most start with slavery and go from there) I’ve heard over and over. It’s fallacious. Why? Because all religions agree on almost all moral issues: murder, theft, perjury, etc. There are fringe groups who believe in things like child marriage or polygamy. And yes, the overwhelming majority imposes its morality in that case. But here’s the thing: abortion is NOT one of those areas where there is agreement. In fact, there is overwhelming DISAGREEMENT. So for any small faction to impose its will on the overwhelming majority (as pro-lifers want to do by making all abortions illegal) is simply–I’ll let you pick a word. For one thing, it would be ineffective. Argentina outlaws abortion. But there are approx. 500,000 abortions in Argentina every year. The only thing the law has done is to endanger the lives of the mothers.
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The problem is that there is something called absolute truth. And the truth of the matter of abortion is that it is a murder. It is the killing of a child.

So I don’t care if not everyone thinks a fetus is a child b/c it is irrelevent. All that is relevent is God’s truth. And God’s truth is pretty clear in scripture that a fetus is a person. And we all agree that person’s have the right to life.
 
You’re on a Catholic site. A little respect for the Catholic pro-life position would be welcome. Showing up on threads that mention abortion to get your pro choice point across often derails the discussion the OP intended.
 
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CatholicSooner:
The problem is that there is something called absolute truth.
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And so you KNOW what absolute truth is, right? And all those ignorant Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and atheists are clueless. And the Church itself was clueless until 1869. Remarkable. My congratulations!
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I don’t know what absolute truth is. But I trust the Church to know that killing a baby is wrong. And the scripture is clear that a baby is a human life.
 
We seem to have a number of posters who fall into this same category.
 
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