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Carmel
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Actually, it was Chanaan
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Hugh_Farey
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Don’t be silly. I’m a Christian. But I dare say I’d be too cowardly to lay down my life for anything voluntarily. Luckily, it’s not yet been a choice I’ve had to make.
My apologies. Our discussions have not extended to the New Testament. Is there any sentence of Genesis that you do not think is literally true?
That’s your pre-Humani Generis interpretation of Catholicism coming out again. What do you understand by: “The Teaching Authority of the Church does not forbid that research take place with regard to the doctrine of evolution, in as far as it inquires into the origin of the human body as coming from pre-existent and living matter.”?
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mVitus
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In that case The Catechism, commissioned by Pope John Paul II written with (name removed by moderator)ut of the bishops states that Genesis uses figurative language. Not to mention the bishops aren’t arguing that evolution contradicts Christian faith.
And finally, the pope is able to resolve disputes. Disputes aren’t going to get unamity from disputing bishops. He has authority to clarify matters of Teaching.
And finally, the pope is able to resolve disputes. Disputes aren’t going to get unamity from disputing bishops. He has authority to clarify matters of Teaching.
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mVitus
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He’s God. His sense of Justice is beyond ours. And Adam and Eve were in a pre-Fall state. And when they chose sin, by definition, they had to know it was wrong. So the real question is why not.
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Techno2000
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Do you think Adam and Eve’s in-laws were disappointed when they got kicked out of the Garden of Eden?Techno2000:
He’s God. His sense of Justice is beyond ours. And Adam and Eve were in a pre-Fall state. And when they chose sin, by definition, they had to know it was wrong. So the real question is why not.
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mVitus
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Purple llama polka dots.
(Ask a silly question, get a silly answer.)
(Ask a silly question, get a silly answer.)
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Gorgias
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Because ‘accountability for sin’ is something that only ensouled humans have. So, God could do it because He gave them souls in His image and likeness.
Because, of course, we should take the word of private revelation over the public revelation of Scripture itself? (“When Noah woke up from his wine and learned what his youngest son had done to him, he said: ‘Cursed be Canaan! The lowest of slaves shall he be to his brothers.’” (Gen 9:25-26))
Nah… they were probably more disappointed that their kids got souls, but they did not.
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In answer to your question Glark. 2 Thess 2:3 Let no one deceive you in any way, for the day of the Lord will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition.
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Carmel
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Yes,
The truth is the truth , even if no-one believes it
and a lie is a lie, even if everyone believes it
Archbishop Fulton Sheen, still uncanonised !
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twf
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You linked to a thread that expresses a wide range of views. Is it your view that dark skin is a curse that was gradually placed upon all Africans for the sins of their ancestors?
It’s interesting that the Acts records the supernatural evangelization of an Ethiopian and his baptism… many “blacks” were saintly Catholics at a time when Northern Europeans were barbaric pagan savages.
It’s interesting that the Acts records the supernatural evangelization of an Ethiopian and his baptism… many “blacks” were saintly Catholics at a time when Northern Europeans were barbaric pagan savages.
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Anyhow, here’s a couple verses of the New Testament for your consumption
Rev.21V7- He who overcomes shall posess these things and I will be his God and he shall be my son. But ,as for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and fornicators and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their portion shall be in the pool that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death
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Hugh_Farey
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Cruel, but maybe true. I hope it doesn’t come to that. However, if I was tested, and I chickened out, I should no doubt be in crowded company in the pool that burns with fire and brimstone. You might even join me!
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Carmel
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No way. Jose
I intend to remain on the side of the angels
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Hugh_Farey
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Well so do I, of course, but who knows what we might fail in extremis?
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Carmel
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I don’t believe we are just judged on our last moment. It must be on what our lives have been about up until that last moment
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Hugh_Farey
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Ah. I see. Is that a literal reading or an interpretation?
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catholic1seeks
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So basically, you find it really easy to go against the scientific consensus, both in terms of evidence and the scientific community. Isn’t that a bit prideful?
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catholic1seeks
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As someone else said, I ask this to other creationists on here:
What do you understand by:
“The Teaching Authority of the Church does not forbid that research take place with regard to the doctrine of evolution, in as far as it inquires into the origin of the human body as coming from pre-existent and living matter.”
What do you understand by:
“The Teaching Authority of the Church does not forbid that research take place with regard to the doctrine of evolution, in as far as it inquires into the origin of the human body as coming from pre-existent and living matter.”
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