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The observable universe is in the frame. We see everything moving away from us AND Galaxies arranged in concentric rings around us.
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edwest211
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They don’t know. They just don’t know.
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Dan123
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Are these the rings you’re talking about?
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edwest211
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Source of image? Interpretation of image? Source?
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Dan123
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It came up on several pages, some university and some biblical studies, was just curious if that’s the one being talked about.
http://ecuip.lib.uchicago.edu/multiwavelength-astronomy/astrophysics/04.html
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http://ecuip.lib.uchicago.edu/multiwavelength-astronomy/astrophysics/04.html
Our Galaxy Near the Centre of Concentric Spherical Shells of Galaxies?
The universe contains an estimated 10^22 stars, yet humanity may be near the center of a supermassive galactic structure. Recent studies hint at a possibly special place in the cosmos but further r…
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Neanderthals as science teaches didn’t exist.
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twf
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What is behind your rejection of modern science? Certainly not your Catholic faith…certainly not the teaching of the popes and magisterium. This is obviously some personal beef… your positions seem more fundamentalist Protestant than anything.
Where did Neanderthal skeletons and DNA come from? Created by Satan to deceive us?
Where did Neanderthal skeletons and DNA come from? Created by Satan to deceive us?
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twf
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Neanderthals had larger brains, on average, than we Homo Sapiens. They weren’t any more ape-like than us… just a divergent, parallel species of the Homo genus.
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mVitus
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Then you’re not at a Catholic Church.
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Hugh_Farey
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No. The universe has no centre.
No. The relativity of the ‘centre’ of the universe has nothing to do with Einstein. The observation that “all the stars are moving away from us and the galaxies are arranged in concentric rings” is true of everywhere in the universe.
Actually it’s perfectly rational, and much easier to understand than you might think. I will explain it in a moment.
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mVitus
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For the record, I assume you mean this as a way emphasizing that the Church is not in error, not as an actual suggestion. Correct?
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ChunkMonk
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I think this is relevant for any faithful Catholics:
We come now to the final magisterial intervention to be considered in this part of our study, namely, the Pontifical Biblical Commission’s Responsum of June 30, 1909, on the interpretation of Genesis, chapters 1 to 3. The main point of this document that interests us is the third question addressed by the Commission:
Whether, in particular, the literal historical sense may be called in question, where it is a question of facts narrated in these chapters which involve the foundations of the Christian religion , as are, among others, the creation of all things by God at the beginning of time; the special [or, particular] creation of man; the formation of the first woman from the first man; the unity of the human race; the original happiness of our first parents in a state of justice, integrity and immortality; the precept given by God to man in order to test his obedience; the transgression of the divine precept under the persuasion of the devil in the guise of a serpent; the fall of our first parents from the aforesaid primaeval state of innocence; and the promise of a future Saviour?
Response: In the negative.
We come now to the final magisterial intervention to be considered in this part of our study, namely, the Pontifical Biblical Commission’s Responsum of June 30, 1909, on the interpretation of Genesis, chapters 1 to 3. The main point of this document that interests us is the third question addressed by the Commission:
Whether, in particular, the literal historical sense may be called in question, where it is a question of facts narrated in these chapters which involve the foundations of the Christian religion , as are, among others, the creation of all things by God at the beginning of time; the special [or, particular] creation of man; the formation of the first woman from the first man; the unity of the human race; the original happiness of our first parents in a state of justice, integrity and immortality; the precept given by God to man in order to test his obedience; the transgression of the divine precept under the persuasion of the devil in the guise of a serpent; the fall of our first parents from the aforesaid primaeval state of innocence; and the promise of a future Saviour?
Response: In the negative.
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ChunkMonk
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Pope Leo XIII:
We call to mind facts well-known to all and doubtful to no-one: after He formed man from the slime of the earth on the sixth day of creation, and breathed into his face the breath of life, God willed to give him a female companion, whom He drew forth wondrously from the man’s side as he slept.
Pope Pelagius I:
I confess … that all men from Adam onward who have been born and have died up to the end of the world will then rise again and stand “before the judgment-seat of Christ,” together with Adam himself and his wife, who were not born of other parents, but were created: one from the earth and the other from the side of the man
We call to mind facts well-known to all and doubtful to no-one: after He formed man from the slime of the earth on the sixth day of creation, and breathed into his face the breath of life, God willed to give him a female companion, whom He drew forth wondrously from the man’s side as he slept.
Pope Pelagius I:
I confess … that all men from Adam onward who have been born and have died up to the end of the world will then rise again and stand “before the judgment-seat of Christ,” together with Adam himself and his wife, who were not born of other parents, but were created: one from the earth and the other from the side of the man
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edwest211
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Thank you for repeating the truth.
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Hugh_Farey
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1909? Oh, dearie me.
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ChunkMonk
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Truth does not have an expiration date.
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edwest211
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It certainly doesn’t. Christ rose from the dead how long ago?
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ChunkMonk
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That is what is so frightening about this trend of the Church. It holds all things as questionable that did not come from the 1960s onward. A subtle rejection of honoring our mothers and fathers?
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