Any young earth creationists out there?

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Gorgias said:
In any case, check out pages 186 and 187 of this scan from his De Genesi ad Litteram.
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There is something about that translation that makes me uneasy. As @TheLittleLady wrote, the wording seems too contemporary. For example, at the top of page 187:
…written off and consigned to the waste paper basket…
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I suspect there were no waste paper baskets in the the year 400. Would the translator portray Augustine wearing a pin-stripe suit as well?
 
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SacredHeartBassist said:
You got to stop saying that all the church fathers believed this or that when your only source is answers in genesis
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He’s sort of right that the Church Fathers believed the earth was young - here’s a list of Fathers and the year they believed earth was created:

Clement of Alexandria (5592 BC)
Sextus Julius Africanus (5501 BC)
Eusebius (5228 BC)
Jerome (5199 BC)
Hippolytus of Rome (5500 BC)
Theophilus of Antioch (5529 BC)
Sulpicius Severus (5469 BC)
Isidore of Seville (5336 BC)
Panodorus of Alexandria (5493 BC)
Maximus the Confessor (5493 BC)
George Syncellus (5492 BC)
Gregory of Tours (5500 BC).

Personally, I believe they were all wrong and simply guessed as best they could given the science of their day. The fact most Fathers believed this, and were dead wrong, doesn’t impact my faith anymore than the fact that the Fathers believed the earth was immobile and the sun revolved around it, or that the human heart was where our thoughts come from, or any of the other pre-Enlightenment pre-Modern ideas which they held and were proven wrong.

The fact that they were wrong about an incidental - the exact age of the earth - doesn’t change the fact they were right about the substantial fact - that God created the earth.
 
Spyridon said:
Personally, I believe they were all wrong and simply guessed as best they could given the science of their day. The fact most Fathers believed this, and were dead wrong, doesn’t impact my faith anymore than the fact that the Fathers believed the earth was immobile and the sun revolved around it, or that the human heart was where our thoughts come from, or any of the other pre-Enlightenment pre-Modern ideas which they held and were proven wrong.

The fact that they were wrong about an incidental - the exact age of the earth - doesn’t change the fact they were right about the substantial fact - that God created the earth.
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Exactly. They weren’t – and didn’t pretend to be – scientists.
 
Are you sure they didn’t just believe that God created the universe in six days and NOT that the earth was young
 
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SacredHeartBassist said:
Are you sure they didn’t just believe that God created the universe in six days and NOT that the earth was young
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I’m 100% sure.

I’ve studied Patristics quite a bit. The Fathers were, by and large, young earthers.

They were also, by and large, geocentrists.
 
Good to know. I haven’t studied them that much.

What about his claim that if all the fathers teach something it’s authoritative
 
SacredHeartBassist said:
What about his claim that if all the fathers teach something it’s authoritative
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Not true.

The Magisterium of the Church (the teaching office of the Pope and Bishops) is the interpreter and expositor of the Fathers, and She has made it clear that Catholics are not bound to believe in a young earth, and can in good conscience believe in the scientific consensus regarding the age of the earth (4.54 billion years old).

The same Magisterium, however, has also made it clear that Catholics are bound to believe in a literal Adam and Eve.
 
The website is filled with pseudoscientific garbage.

If you want to fill your mind with pseudoscience because your faith isn’t strong enough to digest real science, so be it.

Don’t try to force your flim flam, half cocked views on others…
 
They say if you repeat a lie often enough that people will eventually believe it.
 
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