Anyone notice the irony here: Catholics criticising Muslims and Islam on this forum

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morning_star777 said:
mr. lapell can you remember that 2 days before you wanted to give part of ur rosary for me&wanted to pray specially for me when in 1 of my post i wrote that if muslims will know i became christian then they will cut me i piece?in another thread i just wanted to tell that almost 99% muslim hate non muslims mentally.where i grown up i never saw any love or respect to other religion.as ex muslim i met thousands muslims only 2/3 of them were moderate
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I am still ready to put you in my rosary intentions, don’t worry!
 
Lapell said:
You specifically said this, Vickie! How do YOU know i talked “so [you] should not say anything about the atrocities”. This is as bad as calling names, madame! My intention never was such, you hear!! I demand your apologies!
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That’s what I inferred from your post! Sorry, if I was wrong, but that is usually what people do when using tu quoques!

Here’s the definition of

Vickie
 
mr. lapell so kind of you.but if you will pray for me from your heart hope it will be usefull for me.and i hate islam and leave islam cuz i had very abusive experience.i am a male.islam always violent against female.but they mentally abused me horribly from 1989 to 2000.i was religious muslim but they wanted to made me a fanatic muslim.i ignored then abused.you can say it as child abuse also.then from 2000 to 2007 i was atheist.
 
Here was MY intention, Vickie: that you don’t judge a every individual Muslim on actions committed in the name of Islam, even if they would all be committed by true, observant Muslims, and not by atheist “Muslims” (rather nominal ones in my view)…
Just like you can’t condemn all Jews for the actions of a number of them. Same here with Muslims…
Am I being clearer this time now?
 
Now, if you’ll excuse me… I’ll resume this tomorrow, if you don’t mind. Bye now! God bless you!
 
Lapell said:
Here was MY intention, Vickie: that you don’t judge a every individual Muslim on actions committed in the name of Islam, even if they would all be committed by true, observant Muslims, and not by atheist “Muslims” (rather nominal ones in my view)…
Just like you can’t condemn all Jews for the actions of a number of them. Same here with Muslims…
Am I being clearer this time now?
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Yes, it’s clearer now.

Vickie
 
Why does this thread even matter? It seems like the only reason we’re on page 22 is because people are doing exactly what this thread pointed out: Islam bashing.
 
AgnosTheist said:
Where would you rather live in? Those countries? Or these muslim ones:

Saudi Arabia.

Indonesia.

Turkey.

Tunisia.

Iran.

Where would a Catholic have a better life?
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Actually, I’d seriously lean toward choosing Turkey over the “secular” countries named by that other poster.

Although you have a point with regard to Saudi Arabia and Iran. I would only pick those two if I thought I was called at the moment to suffer for my faith…
 
Booklover said:
What are you trying to say? That other people are committing crimes in the name of Islam and blaming Muslims?? I find that pretty ridiculous.

I suppose we or the Jews perpetrated the crimes on 9/11 and blamed Muslims? :rolleyes:

Vickie
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I do not think it ridiculous at all. I have heard it said on lots of news sites that Muslims deny the holocaust. I have not seen one shred of evidence to substantiate this.

As for 9/11, yes I think you have summed it up about right. That was my theory right from the start and it still is

Blessings and peace
 
Mystic_Warrior said:
You always ask for this and that’s a good thing. But I have a couple of questions. What if the same kind of verse is spaced throughout other chapters and books? If the Quran is the very word of God as you claim, it should be really very specific. Even if it was only one verse that claimed a doctrine, wouldn’t it still be true?

I suppose we Christians and Islamic scholars are all just misinterpreting the many passages that incite violence, that tell Muslims to kill Christians and Jews and to subdue us. It is you who has the right interpretation, regardless of countless others who see it different.

I see now.

MW
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I don’t understand why you don’t just do it, already. Are you afraid Paar might have a point?

Every time Paar has asked someone to pick a verse and include its context, the response has been to ignore the request and post another cynical/sarcastic/hateful view of Islam as incurably violent.

I get the point that there are violent passages and Mohammad was a bad person and Muslims have to subdue everyone. It has been said enough!

What is wrong with cooperating, for once, to try and see exactly what another person is talking about?🤷

If I had the resources, I would do cite the Quran myself, but I don’t have them, so will somebody please cooperate and let another’s voice be heard?
 
whiteknite said:
That shows you how inteligent Muslims must be…
They sound like the words of a madman rambling on…
Muslims need to re-educate themselves and find some sort of hobbie…
Maybe Flower arranging??
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Hateful talk like this doesn’t help anyone. Please refrain.
 
Lapell said:
How are you so sure, R_not, that paarsurrey was lying? And to assume ALL of them lie is a rather grave thing in my view!
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Read the koran, hadiths, the history of islam and its prophet - past and current, and then when a muslim speaks/writes - you will know.

To just blindly accept them and apologize for them while so many are being slaughtered worldwide - past and present - and while their own clerics STATE their imperialistic intentions is not ‘turning the other cheek’, or ‘being civil’ or whatever you want to call it - it is being stupid.

I am bothered by the death toll that islam brings about and appeasing them is not on my agenda. I am bothered by the chaos and their new agenda, or new jihad, of infiltration and getting our organizations to segregate, appease, etc for a religion. They can keep their religion at home just like everyone else is expected to do.

To me it also seems you have read none of the past notes I have posted on this thread.
 
Aslieas said:
Hateful talk like this doesn’t help anyone. Please refrain.
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What is so hateful about that? If they would take that advice there might be less hatred coming from them. The arrogant attitude that everyone must submit to their ways, religion, and their god - is all in the mind of a muslim. America is about religious freedom for all - and that means you must tolerate all the other religions as we must tolerate islam. Well, that also means that you should keep it at home too.

The muslims are starting segregation around this USA and it is uncalled for. It should be required that they INTEGRATE and are forbidden to SEGREGATE! Because if one reads the koran and hadiths - segregation by muslims is because they think of us lower than pigs and feces. Well, that is fine - but keep it at home.
 
AgnosTheist said:
at least those secular catholics are sending those babies straight to limbo. islamist terrorists are sending a lot of people to hell. which also makes hell on earth.
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this has to be the most RIDICULOUS line of “reasoning” I have ever seen. You now have ZERO credibility.
 
Aslieas said:
I don’t understand why you don’t just do it, already. Are you afraid Paar might have a point?

Every time Paar has asked someone to pick a verse and include its context, the response has been to ignore the request and post another cynical/sarcastic/hateful view of Islam as incurably violent.

If I had the resources, I would do cite the Quran myself, but I don’t have them, so will somebody please cooperate and let another’s voice be heard?
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Hi

Thanks and regards for understanding my viewpoint.
Online Quran is available for use freely:
www3.alislam.org/index.jsp

Thanks again
 
Something i realized in the last few months. Its seems that every thread that starts about Muslims seems to last long, and in the end all it seems to be them pushing their religion on everyone. If we say anything about their religion we are mean, etc… But they can sit here and talk about Jesus Christ all they want, and we are supposed to be good Christians and keep our mouth shut. Its not right, Muslims dont believe in Jesus Christ and they are wrong, its not my opinion its what the bible says. And please dont tell me they dont know about Jesus Christ, those people seem to know more about our Religion than us, because they sure can debate it well. I think all these threads seem to be anymore is for them to have one more way to push their beliefs on CHristians. And they claim their religion is growing wonder why?
 
you are correct rinnie.we christians shouldn’t shut our mouth.never.cuz if we will shut our mouth like this then soon islam will devour our christianity.and they are trying to do that.we shouldn’t only pray we have to do something.so we should accept every challenge of muslims.lord jesus the true lord bless u and all of us.AMEN
 
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