Anyone notice the irony here: Catholics criticising Muslims and Islam on this forum

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Rayaan said:
You, your polytheism, your godlessness are an abomination…

Listening to your accusations, is like listening to Satan telling humanity that were all bad

In your heart, you KNOW that your the bad guys, that your the evil ones…
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Take note of the way muslims really look upon us. The same guy who wants acceptance by us also views us as abominations, as those who listen to Satan because all we do is state the facts, and he also tells us that we are evil.

this is what others apologize to this guy for - his intolerant behavior and words. He would be all happy and docile if we take whatever he tells us and just ignore all of what islam teaches and does to infidels.
 
No you dont, you never punish your soldiers, they get away with anything, mass rape in Vietnam, the Haditha massacre, the gang rape of the 14 year old iraqi girl.

You people turned Saigon into a virtue brothel where thousands of innocent Vietnamese girls were forced into prostitution.

It in your nature to be this evil, brutal and deceitful, its who you are…

Look at you, you live on the land of the NATIVE AMERICAN, you butchered them, where are they you committed GENOCIDE, IT WHO YOU ARE, you have always been like this, nothing will change that.

Every time you get involved anywhere in the world you just spread more violence and chaos.

Christianity is on its knees not because of islam, its because of secularism, greed, money, I live in Europe, no one goes to church, they mock the church and jesus MORE THEN ANY MUSLIM EVER WOULD

Islam is spreading, we are 1.5 Billion strong, of course there will be people adding to and leaving to any faith, but our faith is spreading, this is WELL DOCUMENTED in secularist media and sources

What you are afraid of is the spread of islam into the west and that is not our fault, you have failed to give the people are meaning in life you have failed to give them spirituality and belief and failed to stand up to the secularists.

I dont need or want your acceptance, I befriend decent, honest people, not people of your ilk
 
Rayaan said:
No you dont, you never punish your soldiers, they get away with anything, mass rape in Vietnam, the Haditha massacre, the gang rape of the 14 year old iraqi girl.

You people turned Saigon into a virtue brothel where thousands of innocent Vietnamese girls were forced into prostitution.

It in your nature to be this evil, brutal and deceitful, its who you are…

Look at you, you live on the land of the NATIVE AMERICAN, you butchered them, where are they you committed GENOCIDE, IT WHO YOU ARE, you have always been like this, nothing will change that.

Every time you get involved anywhere in the world you just spread more violence and chaos.

Christianity is on its knees not because of islam, its because of secularism, greed, money, I live in Europe, no one goes to church, they mock the church and jesus MORE THEN ANY MUSLIM EVER WOULD

Islam is spreading, we are 1.5 Billion strong, of course there will be people adding to and leaving to any faith, but our faith is spreading, this is WELL DOCUMENTED in secularist media and sources

What you are afraid of is the spread of islam into the west and that is not our fault, you have failed to give the people are meaning in life you have failed to give them spirituality and belief and failed to stand up to the secularists.

I dont need or want your acceptance, I befriend decent, honest people, not people of your ilk
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Well, yes we do - remember Mai Lai? I don’t know if I spelled that correctly, but once our military found out what was happening they got a court martial.

You keep on trying to deflect on muslim’s poor behavior that is happening to this very day. Since muslims don’t punish theirs for raping Hindus, Europeans, and basically any infidel because muslims look at it as a jihadist tactic - you need to review your own so called ‘religion’ and stop thinking that what we do is all based on christianity. Our government and religions are not one and the same as islam is.

There were muslims, Christians, Jews, Hindus, atheists, etc that were part of the government that sent soldiers to Vietnam. And we do indeed follow the Geneva Convention while the muslims do not. We have seen what you have done to our men and women who have been captured - they are tortured horribly before they die. And this is what you are trying to deflect in all your accusations of past problems that have shown our laws are far superior to a moon god’s laws.

and now you inflate the numbers of muslims to 1.5 billion. So many are from kidnapped, and many times they are enslaved, girls from India, Africa, Europe, Asia who have no choice. We have no idea how many are from the USA - yet.

And your polygamy with uncontrolled birthrates while being impossible for one muslim male to pay for all their offspring and wives - they leach off the governments that they immigrate to.

Whether it is your fault or not - I don’t want to live under some stinking set of laws called sharia laws. And your posts to indicate of your true intolerance has been noted and brought out so others can view your veiled threats and statements of intolerance. Your ‘religion’ and its goals of worldwide dominance only condemns us to a backwardness never before experienced.

As we see in the Gaza strip - muslims don’t care if their children starve - they take the money and just buy more bombs and when the Israelis fire back - they hide behind the women and children and then use their dead bodies as propoganda for the whining and wailing that they are the victims. This is islam in all its so called glory. It is foul.
 
*I think any Catholic espousing hatred for Islam is against Catholic teaching and would not be supported by the Church. For them to do so would be hypocritical. I, by the way, am a Catholic.😉 *
 
What punishment,

You people murdered 300,000 in Vietnam you turned the place into a whore house you took the dignity from the people, you treated them like dirt, your soldiers saw them as “Gooks” (note: you had similar words for black people)

You dont Punish anyone, you only are forced to do it when you are a CAUGHT OUT, your soldiers will commit abused like the Haditha Massacre or the abuses at abu gharaib on a regular basis unless decent people stand up against them…

YOu dont do anything, you just keep apologizing for atrocities and only punish if your forced into it leaving out the worst human beings and giving them no punishment for the most evil of acts…

Consider those U.S christians who GANG RAPED a 14 year old iraq girl, I mean why would they do it, it wasnt even ONE person it was a group of soldiers.

Its NO DIFFERENT to Vietnam you never change, you just keep creating injustice across the world… you just keep lying to start wars…

You are indeed a horrible horrible deceitful people…

Islam is spreading because people are embracing it, my wife is a white british convert to islam, so is her sister and her husband. Regardless of the pressure of the world and the secular elite muslims still obey God we still are passionate about God.

You people have forsaken God for greed, money and immorality.

You spread porn and immorality across the world.

As for Gaza, it is your people who have abused, humiliated and attempted to crush the people of Palestine for 50 years…

You DO NOT bow to your oppressor, The Palestinians will never bow to you until they get justice, your tanks your weapons, your missiles will never crush the spirit and belief of the Palestinian peoples…

I’ve never met you, but i could have guessed people of your ilk would love the persecution of the Palestinians
 
Katzzzz said:
*I think any Catholic espousing hatred for Islam is against Catholic teaching and would not be supported by the Church. For them to do so would be hypocritical. I, by the way, am a Catholic.😉 *
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Than I guess I’m not a Catholic, because I hate Islam. Not the People, but the demonic cancer known as islam.
 
Rayaan said:
What punishment,

You people murdered 300,000 in Vietnam you turned the place into a whore house you took the dignity from the people, you treated them like dirt, your soldiers saw them as “Gooks” (note: you had similar words for black people)

You dont Punish anyone, you only are forced to do it when you are a CAUGHT OUT, your soldiers will commit abused like the Haditha Massacre or the abuses at abu gharaib on a regular basis unless decent people stand up against them…

YOu dont do anything, you just keep apologizing for atrocities and only punish if your forced into it leaving out the worst human beings and giving them no punishment for the most evil of acts…

Consider those U.S christians who GANG RAPED a 14 year old iraq girl, I mean why would they do it, it wasnt even ONE person it was a group of soldiers.

Its NO DIFFERENT to Vietnam you never change, you just keep creating injustice across the world… you just keep lying to start wars…

You are indeed a horrible horrible deceitful people…

Islam is spreading because people are embracing it, my wife is a white british convert to islam, so is her sister and her husband. Regardless of the pressure of the world and the secular elite muslims still obey God we still are passionate about God.

You people have forsaken God for greed, money and immorality.

You spread porn and immorality across the world.

As for Gaza, it is your people who have abused, humiliated and attempted to crush the people of Palestine for 50 years…

You DO NOT bow to your oppressor, The Palestinians will never bow to you until they get justice, your tanks your weapons, your missiles will never crush the spirit and belief of the Palestinian peoples…

I’ve never met you, but i could have guessed people of your ilk would love the persecution of the Palestinians
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Wow! What a charmer! Such anger comes from another place - not from this issue as most Catholics do not despise Islam. You talk about us being a hateful people but see the hatred in your own words!
 
Katzzzz said:
*I think any Catholic espousing hatred for Islam is against Catholic teaching and would not be supported by the Church. For them to do so would be hypocritical. I, by the way, am a Catholic.😉 *
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You are absolutely right. The Catholic Church tells us that Muslims worship the God of Abraham, the same God that we worship.
 
historyb said:
Than I guess I’m not a Catholic, because I hate Islam. Not the People, but the demonic cancer known as islam.
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***I wouldn’t say you weren’t a Catholic but in this area, Jesus did not teach hatred for any group of people. 🙂 ***
 
Katzzzz said:
***I wouldn’t say you weren’t a Catholic but in this area, Jesus did not teach hatred for any group of people. 🙂 ***
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If you notice I didn’t say group. I do hate islam (the religion) and I believe it came from satan, I feel nothing but pity (not hate) for those who follow such a system.
 
historyb said:
Than I guess I’m not a Catholic, because I hate Islam. Not the People, but the demonic cancer known as islam.
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of course you are catholic.who is catholic this will decide lord jesus&then our honorable pope,because he is the vicar of jesus.so ask catholic fathers.i belive that they will ensure you that you are a true catholic.jesus save you and us from this demonic cancer named islam. :amen:
 
Katzzzz said:
***Wow! What a charmer! Such anger comes from another place ***
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I also find it ironic (the initial theme) that such a post comes from the UK, where the “K” stood for “kingdom”, as in the sun never sets on the British Empire. Perhaps the anger is because the British no longer have the power to oppress and murder like they used to be able to. If there has ever been a clearer case of psychological projection on these forums, I have yet to see it.
 
Rayaan said:
---- Crusades massive christian murder and slaughter.
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You forget to blame Christianity for the Black Death.

Your perception of history is, to say the least, unique. Many wars have been fought throughout history. Seldom is religion an issue. The crusades were an exception. However, anyone with a decent understanding of history knows that the the crusades occured after the Muslim crusades to conquer Europe. Once again, as is always the case, followers of Allah started the slaughter, then cry and moan when they have the tables turned.

Christianity, during it’s explosive growth during barbaric times, was built on the blood of the martyrs. Islam expanded on the blood of its victims, as the followers of Allah followed Abbadon.
 
Katzzzz said:
*I think any Catholic espousing hatred for Islam is against Catholic teaching and would not be supported by the Church. For them to do so would be hypocritical. I, by the way, am a Catholic.😉 *
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I think that any Catholic being an apologist for such a ‘religion’ as islam is being a help in them slaughtering not only Christians, but Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, etc around this globe. To bury ones head in the sand about what islam is all about just makes you a big, fat target.

‘Love they enemy’ is not the same as helping murderers do even more murder in the name of a religion.

When a muslim is more concerned about their image than stopping the murder, or more concerned about a cartoon or a movie, than stopping the murder - I would say it is about time to stop being their apologists and letting them have their way. Read the post that showed the % of muslims and the % of violence.

I would suggest reading what they read. The koran and hadiths. Know what they espouse about us infidels. Even to know what they say about their own women - no matter how often a muslim woman denies what it says.

Many Catholic apologists have helped islam along in the countries they migrate to and when you read the article I suggest - you will know that it has been to their own detriment and they are condemning their own children to islam or to be subjugated by it - if they don’t die from it.

This is real. Not some fairy tale I made up.

Go back to the origins of the teachings of islam. Its koran and hadiths. Read about mohammed - he raped, enslaved, stole, lied, tortured and murdered - all AFTER he thought up islam. www.faithfreedom.org is a good site to get a lot of info on this.
 
LDNCatholic said:
You are absolutely right. The Catholic Church tells us that Muslims worship the God of Abraham, the same God that we worship.
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Well, no it isn’t. they make the claim and everyone just takes their claim at face value. If you would read the koran (yes, it is kludgy, boring and there is a lot to tell you what kind of a ‘not nice’ guy mohammed was because he talks about himself a lot) you would find how messed up the stories of the koran are.

mohammed was a pagan who wanted to convert the Jews and Christians, but he did not know how to read and probably only heard the stories of the bible and that is why they are so screwed up. But he took into account of the fact he knew he didn’t know the stories and told his followers that it was the Jews and Christians who screwed up the stories and we are the ones condemned to hades for it. That is why they will never change the koran and if they do - they will never follow any changed version of it - because they are told that if they do they are condemned to hades.

Here is a little writeup of allah’s daughters that mohammed almost included into islam.
bible.ca/islam/islam-allahs-daughters.htm

But, here is a little bit about allah:
-mohammed was a pagan.
-The kabaa was a pagan temple to the pagan moon god, al-ilah.
-this is an old Babylonian religion.
-muslims and those pagans of mohammed’s religion all have the same ceremonies (which I used to say that this ‘connection’ that muslims claim between Judaism and Christianity is inane - nothing in the muslim’s ceremonies are the same as the other two)
-mohammed even brought in the 3 goddesses at one point - al-lat, al-uzza, and manat, but was advised to take them out.
-islam is the ancient fertility cult (gee, no wonder they are so concerned with the afterlife being very carnal, and the over concern with women and men’s sexual behaviors)
-allah was the high god in a pantheon of deities.
-allah was one of many
-allah, known as habul, and was a statue on top of the kabaa, the moon god.
-‘allah’ replaced ‘habul’.
-the same pagans practiced the pilgrimage to the hajj, the fast of ramadan, running around the kabaa 7 times, kissing the black stone, shaving the head, animal sacrifices, running up and down 2 hills, throwing stones at the devil, praying several times a day towards Mecca, giving alms, Friday prayers, etc.
-Jews and Christians NEVER used a cresent moon and star as a symbol.
 
R_not said:
Well, no it isn’t. they make the claim and everyone just takes their claim at face value. If you would read the koran (yes, it is kludgy, boring and there is a lot to tell you what kind of a ‘not nice’ guy mohammed was because he talks about himself a lot) you would find how messed up the stories of the koran are.

mohammed was a pagan who wanted to convert the Jews and Christians, but he did not know how to read and probably only heard the stories of the bible and that is why they are so screwed up. But he took into account of the fact he knew he didn’t know the stories and told his followers that it was the Jews and Christians who screwed up the stories and we are the ones condemned to hades for it. That is why they will never change the koran and if they do - they will never follow any changed version of it - because they are told that if they do they are condemned to hades.

Here is a little writeup of allah’s daughters that mohammed almost included into islam.
bible.ca/islam/islam-allahs-daughters.htm

But, here is a little bit about allah:
-mohammed was a pagan.
-The kabaa was a pagan temple to the pagan moon god, al-ilah.
-this is an old Babylonian religion.
-muslims and those pagans of mohammed’s religion all have the same ceremonies (which I used to say that this ‘connection’ that muslims claim between Judaism and Christianity is inane - nothing in the muslim’s ceremonies are the same as the other two)
-mohammed even brought in the 3 goddesses at one point - al-lat, al-uzza, and manat, but was advised to take them out.
-islam is the ancient fertility cult (gee, no wonder they are so concerned with the afterlife being very carnal, and the over concern with women and men’s sexual behaviors)
-allah was the high god in a pantheon of deities.
-allah was one of many
-allah, known as habul, and was a statue on top of the kabaa, the moon god.
-‘allah’ replaced ‘habul’.
-the same pagans practiced the pilgrimage to the hajj, the fast of ramadan, running around the kabaa 7 times, kissing the black stone, shaving the head, animal sacrifices, running up and down 2 hills, throwing stones at the devil, praying several times a day towards Mecca, giving alms, Friday prayers, etc.
-Jews and Christians NEVER used a cresent moon and star as a symbol.
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He who twisted the law of God, made such law according to his own taste, and make others believe that it was from God, would be responsible for what he had done, and face the wrath of God in his grave. The result of his works will be shown in the face of the world, so the world will see the fruit of whatever he had done. It will be God himself who will condemn him, for there is no one in this world is worthy to replace God to become His executioneer. God is so powerful that He needs no one to help him delivering his judgements.
 
Rayaan said:
I couldn’t agree more, I have nothing against anyone of any faith, I however love my faith (islam), and will happily debate intelligent faith people on the merits of my faith and there’s.

I have never been so incensed and been so annoyed at christians then since I began to visit this site, the ignorance and bigotry and biased posts are an insult to intelligent people. (there are of course some intelligent and fair people making very insightful comments, which is a welcome change to reading alot of the red neck hick posts)
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Dear Rayaan,

We are ready to have an intelligent debate with you. But returning sarcastic words with another sarcastic words does not seem intelligent to me.
 
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