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Sure. Not quite certain what you’re getting at, though. Yes, we believe that we who have accepted Christ’s gift of grace and who cooperate with it in our lives, will have everlasting life in heaven.N 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
So these people who are still living on earth now have everlasting life.
The “next life” is eternal life.So these people who are still living on earth now have everlasting life.
JN 5:25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.
So this could be referring to the 3 days Jesus was in the tomb and preaching to the people in the borderland, or it could mean when these people live their next life they will have access to the Holy Ghost and therefore eternal life.
I’d assert that, in this verse, Jesus is affirming that there is a resurrection. In John 11:25, Jesus says, “I am the resurrection and the life; whoever believes in me, even if he dies, will live.” This isn’t reincarnation – it’s resurrection!
Not “brand new”, as in “a body that’s foreign to them”. Aquinas speaks to this when he talks about how we are a body/soul composite, and therefore, in the eschaton, we will regain our bodies – glorified, incorruptible, re-created. However, we do not just “get a new body”, as if it were the newest model of a car we once owned.The souls of the people will come back in a brand new body which would be resurection.
Right: the dead will rise at the second coming of Jesus. In fact, even though their bodies are dead, their souls continue to live.an individual can have eternal life regardless of whether he is presently having a lifetime experience on earth.
I would disagree with your former assertion; your latter doesn’t follow logically.The above makes it appear that salvation hangs on having a lucky lifetime, in actuality we use these lifetimes build on each other.
It’s not about being “lucky” in our lives that gains for us salvation – it’s belief in Jesus and acceptance of His grace and cooperation with that grace in the way we live our lives. You can be “lucky” or “unlucky” or somewhere in between, and it doesn’t affect your salvation.
Moreover, “multiple lifetimes that build on each other” doesn’t make sense, either. Ask yourself “what’s the goal of ‘multiple lifetimes’?” If it’s the attainment of a goal, then you’re saying that Christ is unnecessary – all that’s needed is one’s own chutzpah in order to be saved! (The Christian Church rejected that theory in its first few centuries.)
For the sake of argument, I’ll go along with this thought. Still, I have to ask: what’s the ultimate purpose of “next lives”?When we die the higher self takes what it learned and hopefully the next life will be more informed about right and wrong.