Anyones faith get shaken by terrible evils like the Connecticut shootings?

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i really have a hard time with a God that allows such horrible evil and suffering like that.

i know, free will and all, but , well, idk.

it does make me question things.
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i really have a hard time with a God that allows such horrible evil and suffering like that.

i know, free will and all, but , well, idk.

it does make me question things.
🤷
We might begin to understand how terrible it was when the 40 innocents who were slaughtered by Herod’s men searching for the babe Jesus. Or all the families martyred in the Roman forum. Or Christians who were led off into the mines. Or the Jews and the holocaust. Lots of wonderfully good people in every century, every generation, every nation, who suffer for Justice or Jesus or just because they live in a world polluted with evil.

Think how nice this world would be if everyone followed the advice of Jesus and spread love around. This is what he Jesus is about and if we would listen, there would be none of these horrific events.The world needs to be saved now as it did in the time of Jesus.

But no, instead of love, we use selfishness. And just think of what the world would be like today if we had none of the goodness of Jesus in it. It would be even worse. We need Jesus and his Father and the Holy Spirit more now than ever.

Just a thought.
 
thanks Fred. good thoughts brother.

terrible evil and suffering always makes me question though.

maybe i just cant come to terms with all the horror in the world.

idk
 
i really have a hard time with a God that allows such horrible evil and suffering like that.

i know, free will and all, but , well, idk.

it does make me question things.
🤷
To be honest I used to be blame God whenever bad things happen. However it dawned on me that I wasn’t being fair. I cannot blame God when people decide to ignore his laws and commands.
 
My faith is not shaken.
I see the tragedy as the result of, and a commentary on, the values in this country. It points to the need to help others understand that their value as human beings is immeasurable and comes from Our Lord. And it points to our need to share and live this reality.
A prayer for all who are suffering from alienation and despair: May they find peace and hope, in the love and mercy of our Savior. Amen.
 
but does there need to be so much horror and suffering.

cant he tweak the system or something.

idk, its so disheartening.
 
maybe i just cant come to terms with all the horror in the world.

idk
I think that that is a good sign, itulian. May there never come a day in which we find it easy overlook or brush-off the horrors in the world. May God bless us all with the strength to stand against them and witness to different possibilities, to His greater glory. Amen.
 
In reflection to this, I have one thing to say:

I saw a t-shirt online yesterday on Facebook that said this:

“Dear GOD”

Why do You allow so much violence in our schools?

Signed, Concerned student

the reply was:

“Dear Concerned student”

I am not allowed in schools

Signed, GOD

This is so true. When we shut the KING of Kings outside of Our Hearts, then this is the reality of what we have to face. It ticks me off so much that we can’t just wake up and smell the coffee. This society really is a downer…
 
It does not shake my faith. At all.
It convinces me that evil exists in the world and the world needs Christ even more.

As shocking as the news was yesterday of young children being slaughtered, there are more children killed horribly by abortion in the States on a daily basis. There are no news conferences with the President shedding a tear over them. The President saying that these kids will never grow up, learn to ride bikes, graduate, get married and have their own families. This is the reality, that mothers are bringing in their own babies to be killed. That my friend, is shocking. More than some crazy person who got a hold of their parent’s guns.

I can’t imagine removing the 10 Commandments from classrooms because it offends someone. Those children that were killed. I imagine they wish the Commandments went up in every classroom and public place throughout the country in their honor. Will we see that happen? Not likely.
 
It does not shake my faith. At all.
It convinces me that evil exists in the world and the world needs Christ even more.

As shocking as the news was yesterday of young children being slaughtered, there are more children killed horribly by abortion in the States on a daily basis. There are no news conferences with the President shedding a tear over them. The President saying that these kids will never grow up, learn to ride bikes, graduate, get married and have their own families. This is the reality, that mothers are bringing in their own babies to be killed. That my friend, is shocking. More than some crazy person who got a hold of their parent’s guns.

I can’t imagine removing the 10 Commandments from classrooms because it offends someone. Those children that were killed. I imagine they wish the Commandments went up in every classroom and public place throughout the country in their honor. Will we see that happen? Not likely.
adding more instances of evil on the pile doesnt change the scenario.

couldnt a good God come up with a better system?

these evils just jolt us back to the reality, i think.
 
In reflection to this, I have one thing to say:

I saw a t-shirt online yesterday on Facebook that said this:

“Dear GOD”

Why do You allow so much violence in our schools?

Signed, Concerned student

the reply was:

“Dear Concerned student”

I am not allowed in schools

Signed, GOD

This is so true. When we shut the KING of Kings outside of Our Hearts, then this is the reality of what we have to face. It ticks me off so much that we can’t just wake up and smell the coffee. This society really is a downer…
How true and unfortunate. Good answer. In my days of youth we did not have this, but then we prayed in school.
 
i really have a hard time with a God that allows such horrible evil and suffering like that.

i know, free will and all, but , well, idk.

it does make me question things.
🤷
I was at a meeting last year of our Catholic book club when this topic was brought up. We had just read a book on God winks. One of the members daughter died at the age of 12 after a couple of years of painful treatments to save her life. We discussed why God would wink at us about a job offer and then totally ignore us when our innocent child liesdying. We all pretty much walked away with the same idea. God doesn’t play us like chess pieces. He’s not intertwined in our everyday lives granting our petitions like a fairy God father. We all agreed that he does not bring tragedy and he does not bring good fortune. We also agreed that miracles are rare, very rare. Maybe that’s why the bar is set so high when attributing miracles to candidates for sainthood.

We die of disease because we are organisms and our bodies are vulnerable to genetic and environmental factors. We die from violence because we repeatedly fail to implement known strategies that would help us prevent it. It’s not God’s fault.
 
We have yes free will.

Some sadly use it for evil. Others rightly use it for the purpose given --for good–for love.

Remember always that the maybe the possible 70-80 some odd years here --are those of a journey – not the intended destination.

Yes there are evil possibilities along the way…but there are also so much good and beauty both given and possible for us to choose.
 
adding more instances of evil on the pile doesnt change the scenario.

couldnt a good God come up with a better system?

these evils just jolt us back to the reality, i think.
God did. Remember Adam? We’re left with his ashes. At this stage in our world, I’m beginning to feel more sorry for God than for us. He is taking a beating he dosen’t deserve.
He already took one beating at the pillar. And I’m not directing this at you. It’s …

just a thought.
 
but does there need to be so much horror and suffering.
Yes and no. Yes, because humans choose sin over love. No, because humans are free to choose love instead.
cant he tweak the system or something.
No. To presume He should, suggests that He didn’t get it right from the beginning, which cannot be, as God cannot err.
idk, its so disheartening.
Only if we give up on Hope.
 
We might begin to understand how terrible it was when the 40 innocents who were slaughtered by Herod’s men searching for the babe Jesus. Or all the families martyred in the Roman forum. Or Christians who were led off into the mines. Or the Jews and the holocaust. Lots of wonderfully good people in every century, every generation, every nation, who suffer for Justice or Jesus or just because they live in a world polluted with evil.

Think how nice this world would be if everyone followed the advice of Jesus and spread love around. This is what he Jesus is about and if we would listen, there would be none of these horrific events.The world needs to be saved now as it did in the time of Jesus.

**But no, instead of love, we use selfishness. And just think of what the world would be like today if we had none of the goodness of Jesus in it. It would be even worse. We need Jesus and his Father and the Holy Spirit more now than ever. **

Just a thought.
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OP I know what you mean but not at all for me. I’m not gonna lie, I didn’t sleep well at all.
Yesterday 22 kids have been stabbed by a single man in a school in China, which makes me wonder even more about what the world is becoming. Thanksfully none of them is dead.
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It’s like every day is getting worse and worse, but I believe that whenever we have even the tiniest doubt about God that’s when evil gets its way and gets more power over us.

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Let’s just keep praying.
 
but if you’re a loving parent and one of your children starts hurting the other, at some point dont you step in and stop it?

if you didnt i dont think you really love them.
 
How true and unfortunate. Good answer. In my days of youth we did not have this, but then we prayed in school.
DId you hear the interveiw with the priest who said most of the school familes were his parishioners? So I guess you’re saying that these kids died because their parents couldn’t afford to send them to Catholic school. Or maybe they died because these kindergartners didn’t pray hard enough at church or at home to make up for all the praying they missed at school.

Please refrain from further denegrating these kids or their families with your insights. Your prayers would be appeciate.
 
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