Apostles' Creed at Mass?

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I go to Mass at a different place from time to time, and they say the Apostles’ Creed instead of the Nicene. Is this legit, and why do they do it?
 
It’s legit. Not as common but legit. We have a priest at my parish who is notorious for his brevity in saying mass. Its like hes in a compettition with himself. He’s the only one I’ve seen do it.
 
We started doing the AC for Lent, don’t know why, I like it better than the NC, less of a tongue twister! Of course, I also prefer tresspass to sins in the Our Father!
 
We do it for Lent, along with several other changes, every year. It’s nothing new.
 
When the 3rd edition of the Roman Missal took effect, Advent 2011, the Apostles Creed was recommended as an option for certain seasons in place of the “usual” Nicene Creed. These seasons were Advent, Lent (?), and Easter, although its use is acceptable any time of year, particularly in conjuction with baptism.
 
It should be noted that some countries had long ago petitioned the Holy See for permission to use the Apostles Creed and it had been granted. We in Canada have been using it for years and the permission we had to do so was noted in our 1975 GIRM.
 
My church uses it as the standard year round. I prefer the Nicene Creed, so I’m a little bummed about that. It’s certainly not for brevity, though. My pastor almost always goes with the long forms of the reading and gives fifteen to twenty minute homilies every Sunday.
 
Beryllos said:
We do it for Lent, along with several other changes, every year. It’s nothing new.
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I have tried to recall all of the Lenten changes to the Mass in my parish. This list may not be complete, but it’s close. During Lent:
  • We recite the Confiteor.
  • We sing the Kyrie in Greek.
  • The Gloria is omitted.
  • The Gospel Acclamation is not “Alleluia,” but rather “Praise to you, Lord Jesus Christ, King of endless glory.”
  • Apostle’s Creed
  • Different (not the usual) Eucharistic Prayers
  • We sing the Sanctus (Holy, Holy, Holy) in Latin.
  • The Great Amen is sung only once, and plainly.
  • The Agnus Dei (Lamb of God) is sung in Latin.
 
Beryllos said:
  • The Gloria is omitted.
  • The Gospel Acclamation is not “Alleluia,” but rather “Praise to you, Lord Jesus Christ, King of endless glory.”
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These two are prescribed by the rubrics of the Mass. The others are permitted, acceptable, nice to do, but not required or prescribed anywhere.
 
Beryllos said:
Different (not the usual) Eucharistic Prayers
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You’ve piqued my interest: do you just mean that your priest(s) use a different one of the normal four Eucharistic Prayers? Or is there something else that they’ve decided to use during Lent?
 
Gorgias said:
You’ve piqued my interest: do you just mean that your priest(s) use a different one of the normal four Eucharistic Prayers? Or is there something else that they’ve decided to use during Lent?
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The Sunday before last, I heard one that sounded new to me. When I asked, after Mass, the priest said there were two Eucharistic Prayers that they planned to use during Lent. I guess they are among the four, and now that I have reviewed those, I think perhaps it was EP IV, which I have heard so rarely, if ever, that I thought it was composed especially for Lent.
 
Beryllos said:
The Sunday before last, I heard one that sounded new to me. When I asked, after Mass, the priest said there were two Eucharistic Prayers that they planned to use during Lent. I guess they are among the four, and now that I have reviewed those, I think perhaps it was EP IV, which I have heard so rarely, if ever, that I thought it was composed especially for Lent.
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EP IV can’t be used during Lent. Actually, it can only be used during Ordinary Time, as it has a proper preface that must be said with the EP. They are probably the Eucharistic Prayers for Reconciliation, of which there are two. These also have proper prefaces, but you can use any of the Lenter prefaces with them as well, whereas you can’t with EP IV.
 
buc_fan33 said:
EP IV can’t be used during Lent. Actually, it can only be used during Ordinary Time, as it has a proper preface that must be said with the EP. They are probably the Eucharistic Prayers for Reconciliation, of which there are two. These also have proper prefaces, but you can use any of the Lenter prefaces with them as well, whereas you can’t with EP IV.
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This year is the first time I’ve ever heard those used in our parish. The priest who was just made administrator after the untimely death of our Pastor has been using Reconciliation II since Ash Wednesday.
 
St_Francis said:
I go to Mass at a different place from time to time, and they say the Apostles’ Creed instead of the Nicene. Is this legit, and why do they do it?
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The GIRM only requires that the Creed be said. It does not specify which one.
 
Phemie said:
It should be noted that some countries had long ago petitioned the Holy See for permission to use the Apostles Creed and it had been granted. We in Canada have been using it for years and the permission we had to do so was noted in our 1975 GIRM.
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What’s interesting to me is that ICEL made changes (if you call them that) to the Nicene Creed both in the late 60’s and then in the 2011 English version. I do recall Apostles Creed being used but it essentially is the same version as we used in the Rosary in the 50’s. In your opinion, is there anything special in the English Apostle’s Creed that makes the wording “untouchable”?

Then again there may have been changes but I didn’t notice.
 
ProVobis said:
Then again there may have been changes but I didn’t notice.
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There were changes, but very minor. The English translation never resulted in any question about theology. The Nicene Creed, on the other hand, was more noticeably changed to clarify theological understanding.

This image shows the Apostles Creed revision.
 
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