Oh, thank you
I will NOT be submissive to a man! I donāt care if I have a veil, a hat, or just hair!
It was only asked because we literally got told that all Catholic women should be (the thread has since been deleted due to some posts had become insulting). So we wanted something to back us up.
ā¦so am IWell thanks for your answer
. However, much more can be done in a long skirt than most women will admit. I have worn a long near ankle length swim skirt swimming, and have had no problems.I like cover head is for God; and for other times not cover head, I have my long hair.
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As far as swimmingā¦just make sure you are in a poolā¦not a river or an ocean where the currents or undertow can quickly make a long skirt a very dangerous situation! Oh, and be careful with the pool filter and a long skirt!Thank you so much for the replies. Seems to me that most of us are on the same page (or maybe just the same chapter) of the skirts/pants part. Skirts=good, though sometimes just not reasonable.
The head covering question still lingers though, and I wonder what the answer may be. Now that I think about it, I seem to recall this as a Vatican II issue, where a new set of regulations were put out, and that did not include head coverings, but people did not know if the lack of addressing head coverings meant they were no longer required, or no changes had been made. I could be wrong.
rook476: Thank you for the links. Those are lovely. I like how they cover, and will remind me to be prayerful, without disracting others.
Let me clarify my views on skirts. I think we should dress femininly, and skirts are, I feel, the most effective way to do this. Iām up north too, like many of you, and know that sometimes skirts are unreasonable. Certainly, I wouldnāt want to be in some of jamanneās situations in a dress
I LOVE the long skirts the Muslim girls at my Uni wearā¦so feminine. I wonder where they get them from sometimesā¦lol. I only say that, cos there are not many āwesternā girls who wear long skirts during summerā¦it is normally short shorts - I wear them I admit, but always with totally black stockings - so no skin showingā¦and I only wear them when it is really hot here in AustraliaThank you so much for the replies. Seems to me that most of us are on the same page (or maybe just the same chapter) of the skirts/pants part. Skirts=good, though sometimes just not reasonable.
The head covering question still lingers though, and I wonder what the answer may be. Now that I think about it, I seem to recall this as a Vatican II issue, where a new set of regulations were put out, and that did not include head coverings, but people did not know if the lack of addressing head coverings meant they were no longer required, or no changes had been made. I could be wrong.
rook476: Thank you for the links. Those are lovely. I like how they cover, and will remind me to be prayerful, without disracting others.
Let me clarify my views on skirts. I think we should dress femininly, and skirts are, I feel, the most effective way to do this. Iām up north too, like many of you, and know that sometimes skirts are unreasonable. Certainly, I wouldnāt want to be in some of jamanneās situations in a dress
i do try to be modest in the Aussie heat. LOLI quoted scripture which states "1 Peter 3:5 For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands: 6 Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters [1] ye are, as long as ye do well, "
Please do not start it here.
Just to clarify, matter of disciplines can be rules of law. But the Church can change her mind about such disciplines and no longer enforce such a discipline. What the Church cannot change are essential traditions. For example, the matter of Sacraments cannot be changed. The Eucharist will always be wheat bread and grape wine. Liturgy should always have a Gospel reading. Those arenāt merely disciplines but essential basics on how we worship and practice our faith. Thing like veiling is disciplinary.
I can only respond to the first question. See this by a canon lawyer:
I admit that I pushed to hard on the other thread and I will let it drop now. All the best with your RCIA program and I am certainly pleased that you are keen to dress well for the Lord. I could have done more in the other thread to commend you for that.
And men need to āgive up themselvesā for their wifeā¦just as Christ gave himself up for the Churchā¦even unto death. That doesnāt always mean a āphysical deathāā¦but a ādeathā to selfish desires and wants. He needs to put her needs above his own. Hence, āeven unto deathā! I know you didnāt quote Ephesians here, but anytime men start quoting Sacred Scripture on verses such as the ones you did, in regards to what āwomen are commanded to doā; I feel the need to remind them about what THEY are commanded to doā¦since many seem to forget the exactly what Ephesians says about it.
Thank you
There we go, our answer!