April 25th Day of Silence for Gay-Straight Alliances

[peduzzi89]

Ok, so that is your opinion of being gay, that’s great. But a confused teenager has an orientation - they just don’t know it yet. It can’t be swayed - if it could then who would be gay? I mean I was confused - I grew up catholic, always being told that homosexuality was wrong - so I said, I can beat this - and I found a girl, thought she was the right one, we dated for 2 years and i seriously thought she was the one I was gonna marry and love for the rest of my life - but then I realized there was something that was part of my very being - something I had known about since I was 5 - that I realized nothing could overcome. That was less then a year ago, and now I’m out and happy, and I have a loving family, lots of friends, I’m a talented singer, doing well in college, and loving life. To make a long story short, I did what I was “supposed to” but I still ended up gay. How I wish I had support before I had to go through all that pain. This is very similar to EVERY gay person I know, and that’s a lot. And I don’t mean most - I mean EVERY SINGLE LAST ONE. So - if you’re gay, you’re gay, if you’re not you’re not - nobody’s gonna change it.

 

[buffalo]

So - if you’re gay, you’re gay, if you’re not you’re not - nobody’s gonna change it.

Uh no - see here

Study up on epigenetics.

 

[peduzzi89]

If people can stop being attracted to the same sex, well great for them - but Stephen Bennet was clearly not happy being homosexual, as many are. That may work for some people, but not everyone - certainly not for me, as I explained above. A generation ago there were no GSA’s in schools - yet there were no less gay people…so there you have it - GSA does not make people gay. And I still stand that if you are you are if not, then not - if you can overcome the feelings great for you, but that has nothing to do with GSA.

 

[buffalo]

If people can stop being attracted to the same sex, well great for them - but Stephen Bennet was clearly not happy being homosexual, as many are. That may work for some people, but not everyone - certainly not for me, as I explained above. A generation ago there were no GSA’s in schools - yet there were no less gay people…so there you have it - GSA does not make people gay. And I still stand that if you are you are if not, then not - if you can overcome the feelings great for you, but that has nothing to do with GSA.

If they came out with a pill to cure it today just what do you think would happen?

 

[peduzzi89]

Whoa if they came out with a pill that would make me attracted to women instead of men - that would be amazing - it would make my life so much easier - I’m sure all gays would agree that their life would be eaiser as straight - that’s my point - if these reparative therapies definately worked, everyone would be doing them. What was the point of that anyway? I don’t see this pill anywhere.

 

[AndyF]

missionamerica.com/homosexual.php?articlenum=70

List of schools participating is on this page.

Wishful thinking.

By God’s law there could never be a legitimate alliance between people who are afflicted with this sin and those who are not. Alliance: In this case a term of agreement that makes the act socially acceptable, or as the aim of assisting it’s progression further into acceptability.

There is a cure for this habitual(in that sense) sin for those who are determined to submit to blind trust(reluctance being a manifestation of the subtlety of the sin’s nature), and at least are willing to allow for the benefit of the doubt that their condition is not morally normal, and further sincerely follow though with the remedial process.

AndyF

 

[buffalo]

Whoa if they came out with a pill that would make me attracted to women instead of men - that would be amazing - it would make my life so much easier - I’m sure all gays would agree that their life would be eaiser as straight - that’s my point - if these reparative therapies definately worked, everyone would be doing them. What was the point of that anyway? I don’t see this pill anywhere.

Proof of natural law, thank you.

 

[peduzzi89]

First of all, getting back to earlier - it is a public school, and so even if that is God’s law, it doesn’t abide by that - if you don’t like it, send your kids to a catholic school. Also - I’m talking about CHANGING the orientation - a gay person could never sleep with men and get married to a woman and all that, but they would stull be gay.

 

[buffalo]

First of all, getting back to earlier - it is a public school, and so even if that is God’s law, it doesn’t abide by that - if you don’t like it, send your kids to a catholic school. Also - I’m talking about CHANGING the orientation - a gay person could never sleep with men and get married to a woman and all that, but they would stull be gay.

Some documentation for this claim?

 

[peduzzi89]

And to buffalo - I know about natural law and all that - duh - Part a fits into part B by nature yeah - but some people are just gay…it happens- if we always abided by natural law there would be no medical intervention.

 

[peduzzi89]

What documentation do you want - Im saying there’s a difference between making someone avoid/ignore sexual feelings and making them disappear for good? What proof do you want for that?

 

[East_and_West]

You know, every single gay person I know is unstable, unhealthy, promiscuous, vain, over sexed and vain. I say this, again, as a man who has lived the gay life style before. I that this is pretty much the universal experience.

 

[peduzzi89]

Well, that is certainly not true for every gay man I know - in fact, hardly any - and most of them are in college - the most promiscuous time of most people’s lives - but this is also a very accepting area - which I think goes to show that much of the promiscuity and other problems are caused by rejection and persecution by society at one point or another - not that gay people are automatically promiscuous or any of the other things you said - because they certainly aren’t all like that.

 

[East_and_West]

Well, that is certainly not true for every gay man I know - in fact, hardly any - and most of them are in college - the most promiscuous time of most people’s lives - but this is also a very accepting area - which I think goes to show that much of the promiscuity and other problems are caused by rejection and persecution by society at one point or another - not that gay people are automatically promiscuous or any of the other things you said - because they certainly aren’t all like that.

There is a much higher instance of promiscuity amongst gay men than there is amonst straights. Do you know how many seemingly “healthy” gay individuals I have known that have had between sixty and one hundred partners and they are still in their twenties?

 

[peduzzi89]

Oh I totally agree - that is a fact for sure. My point, however, is that is not exclusive - there are plenty of monogamous, prudent gays out there, albeit tons fewer than straight - but like I said, I think that sprouts from rebellion because society rejects homosexuality - certainly not from the actual fact of someone being gay.

 

[East_and_West]

Oh I totally agree - that is a fact for sure. My point, however, is that is not exclusive - there are plenty of monogamous, prudent gays out there, albeit tons fewer than straight - but like I said, I think that sprouts from rebellion because society rejects homosexuality - certainly not from the actual fact of someone being gay.

Or perhaps from the fact that women have a taming effect on men, as was intended in our original design.

 

[peduzzi89]

Men have a taming effect on me - and women certainly don’t. Coming from the purely emotional side of things - while I have never been with a man, I can say there have been some that have made me feel complete - even one or 2 I was completely in love with - but never any of this with a woman.

 

[AndyF]

peduzzi:

I think persecution is the exception rather than the rule, and any hostility is probably brought on by indiscretion. I would be pretty angry if I were walking down a city sidewalk with my 4 year old granddaughter, and a parade of naked HS started gyrating in front of her. I’d be just as angry if girls did the same.

You will need to give us a break in the social arena as well. If this act is not receiving overall acceptance, it could be for the most part that the majority is being cautious and prudent in there choices they make and they wish to obey God as much as possible in order to get to heaven. Methinks you will find few who are willing to give up heaven to get on the HS bandwagon and tell God he is wrong.

That is what the OT calls wisdom in the fear of God.

Besides, man has indicators God is right. There is a parish designated by our diocese that is commissioned to assist HS people with this affliction. They hold devotions to the Blessed Mother, and the good news is it is really successful, with some people who have claimed minimal to completely absent sexual urges in this area. If it is a psychological or physical orientation, how are these changes explained.?

There is also another parish a few years back in the city who also had successes.

The Church while being strictly against this behavior, also leaves an outlet for escape. The Blessed Mother through the Rosary is the answer. It calls for blind trust and giving the benefit of the doubt.

AndyF

 

[peduzzi89]

peduzzi:

I think persecution is the exception rather than the rule, and any hostility is probably brought on by indiscretion. I would be pretty angry if I were walking down a city sidewalk with my 4 year old granddaughter, and a parade of naked HS started gyrating in front of her. I’d be just as angry if girls did the same.

You will need to give us a break in the social arena as well. If this act is not receiving overall acceptance, it could be for the most part that the majority is being cautious and prudent in there choices they make and they wish to obey God as much as possible in order to get to heaven. Methinks you will find few who are willing to give up heaven to get on the HS bandwagon and tell God he is wrong.

That is what the OT calls wisdom in the fear of God.

Besides, man has indicators God is right. There is a parish designated by our diocese that is commissioned to assist HS people with this affliction. They hold devotions to the Blessed Mother, and the good news is it is really successful, with some people who have claimed minimal to completely absent sexual urges in this area. If it is a psychological or physical orientation, how are these changes explained.?

There is also another parish a few years back in the city who also had successes.

The Church while being strictly against this behavior, also leaves an outlet for escape. The Blessed Mother through the Rosary is the answer. It calls for blind trust and giving the benefit of the doubt.

AndyF

Well, actually, there are a lot more people who accept it than you think - most people who don’t associate with religion - which is a growing group- as well as an increasing number of religious groups. I’m really not trying to make anyone jump on any bandwagon. And I would be equally upset if I saw anyone naked on the street (I dont think whether they were homosexual or not would make a difference)…sidenote - does HS mean homosexual? because heterosexual has the same acronym…anyway. I personally that homosexuals should excercise a great deal of discretion - I would not feel comfortable walking down the street even holding hands with another man. Leading back to the day of silence - schools should teach tolerance of being homosexual - even if one doens’t agree with it because it is not a chosen thing. But let me make it clear that I do not advocate throwing homosexuality in people’s faces.

 

[AndyF]

…because it is not a chosen thing.

It chose him by something he caused that made him a candidate, this is what God is saying by this rule. He is saying a person can dump this creature from his shoulders if he asks for help and doesn’t submit which will further weaken his state.

Sadly, so many have submitted to the lowest stages of this affliction and swayed by the comforts and pleasure of the sensual nature, they hardly will trust anyone now. They are merely shells and hardly unrecognizable from their former selves.

AndyF