Archbishop Chaput: Pope Francis cannot contradict John Paul II on Communion
- Status
J
Justin_Swanton
Guest
One of the leitmotifs that runs through the book is your concern for marriage and the institution of marriage. Today’s debate over Amoris Laetitia pivots on that subject. What do you think is at stake?
St. Francis of Assisi encouraged the brothers, the Franciscan brothers, to accept the Gospel without gloss. And glosses were convoluted efforts to make the Gospel say something that it didn’t say, or Jesus didn’t really mean what he said. So it seems to me we ought to take Jesus at his word, and his words about divorce and remarriage, about it being adultery, are very clear. I mean, there’s just no doubt about what Jesus said in the Gospels.
It seems to me that it’s impossible for us to contradict the words of Jesus, and it’s also impossible for a teaching to be true 20 years ago not to be true today when it’s the teachings of the pope. The teachings of Pope Francis can’t contradict the teachings of John Paul II when it is a matter of official teaching.
So, it seems to me we have to interpret *Amoris Laetitia *in the light of what’s gone before it, primarily the words of Jesus, but secondarily the teachings of the pope, the Magisterium of the Church. And so how can it be true that people can receive Communion when they’re living in an adulterous union today. How is that possible, when the Church says it’s not possible?
Spot on.
St. Francis of Assisi encouraged the brothers, the Franciscan brothers, to accept the Gospel without gloss. And glosses were convoluted efforts to make the Gospel say something that it didn’t say, or Jesus didn’t really mean what he said. So it seems to me we ought to take Jesus at his word, and his words about divorce and remarriage, about it being adultery, are very clear. I mean, there’s just no doubt about what Jesus said in the Gospels.
It seems to me that it’s impossible for us to contradict the words of Jesus, and it’s also impossible for a teaching to be true 20 years ago not to be true today when it’s the teachings of the pope. The teachings of Pope Francis can’t contradict the teachings of John Paul II when it is a matter of official teaching.
So, it seems to me we have to interpret *Amoris Laetitia *in the light of what’s gone before it, primarily the words of Jesus, but secondarily the teachings of the pope, the Magisterium of the Church. And so how can it be true that people can receive Communion when they’re living in an adulterous union today. How is that possible, when the Church says it’s not possible?
Spot on.
F
FollowChrist34
Guest
I am glad to see this.
T
tseleehw
Guest
It is good to see a highly respected archbishop speak out for the true teaching of the Church on divorce and remarriage. It is courageous of him to speak out for what is right, knowing that it will gain him many enemies in high places in today’s Church.
T
twf
Guest
I don’t think His Excellency will receive a red hat anytime soon.
C
ChurchSoldier
Guest
Hopefully he’s cool with that.
S
Sy_Noe
Guest
This is confusing to me. Are you suggesting that those in high places or in a higher place than Archbishop Chaput in today’s Catholic Church are not speaking out for what is right?
M
Memaw
Guest
Agree!! God Bless, Memaw
B
Blessedwithfive
Guest
Pretty sure that is what he is implying…This is confusing to me. Are you suggesting that those in high places or in a higher place than Archbishop Chaput in today’s Catholic Church are not speaking out for what is right?
F
FollowChrist34
Guest
Besides, there’s always the Order of the Knights of Malta.Pretty sure that is what he is implying…
Check it out - tap on photo. My goodness!
View attachment 23804
S
SuperLuigi
Guest
The issue is we need to get it right in order to avoid scandal.This is confusing to me. Are you suggesting that those in high places or in a higher place than Archbishop Chaput in today’s Catholic Church are not speaking out for what is right?
S
Seamus_L
Guest
J
Jeanne_S
Guest
T
Tim_D
Guest
One really does have to wonder why Pope Francis, as the Vicar of Christ, will not answer the dubia. Is it really his intention to try to allow people in objectively sinful situations to still present themselves for communion when the constant and traditional teachings of the Church - not to mention Christ’s own words in the Gospels - does not permit it? Honestly, this is a scary situation.
B
Blessedwithfive
Guest
He is applying the law of gradually. Meet the people where they are and show mercy, to hopefully show them the full law when they are ready to accept it. I** am not saying I agree,** but I sometimes think that those people in difficult situations need the grace of the sacrament the most. Once again, Not saying I agree but I see where he is coming from.
And he is never going to answer the dubia. There is no up side for him…
F
FollowChrist34
Guest
Is it about just his ‘up’ side? I guess it is if you think about it. That is why we are all living with this confusion and division. Certainly not doing it for truth - hopefully we all agree on that much.
P
petra22
Guest
I have been trying to think and pray about this and it crossed my mind "are we being like the Pharisees puffed up on the “laws” as we see them? I’m not a scholar, though I love the Church. I love the Eucharist and I believe it is truly the body and blood of Jesus. I realize what the ECF said concerning receiving in un-holy… And I believe we receive to our damnation if we are carrying mortal sin. What I’m wondering was it Jesus who said deny sinners his body and blood or was it the church? I know he gave them power to loose and bind, but did they bind too tightly? I was just wondering about those Pharisees that Jesus warned us about. I think he quoted his father as saying I demand Mercy and not sacrifice… it haunts me…
J
JPUSC
Guest
J
JPUSC
Guest
- Status