Archbishop Cupich appointed to Vatican’s congregation for bishops [CNA]

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Which is one reason so many people like him.
Maybe so, but wait until he closes their parishes. He’s already committed to closing many parishes within the next 14 years, citing the decline in the number of priests, without doing much promotions to the priesthood or Catholicism, for that matter.
 
I am a bit confused as to a quotation I heard from Archbishop Cupich recently. I found the quote from this parish website however it is not the original place that I read it. Is it me or does this quotation seem to be turned about a bit from the original that was coined by Prosper of Aquitaine.

ourladyofthelake.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=feature.display&feature_id=264
This is the Archbishop’s quote
Christians believe that in our worship we express
what we believe and who we are. This is the
meaning of the ancient maxim lex orandi, lex
credendi


Isn’t the maxim originally meaning prayer shapes belief? not a reflection of belief?

I await some explanation from my friends here.
 
I am a bit confused as to a quotation I heard from Archbishop Cupich recently. I found the quote from this parish website however it is not the original place that I read it. Is it me or does this quotation seem to be turned about a bit from the original that was coined by Prosper of Aquitaine.

ourladyofthelake.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=feature.display&feature_id=264
This is the Archbishop’s quote
Christians believe that in our worship we express
what we believe and who we are. This is the
meaning of the ancient maxim lex orandi, lex
credendi


Isn’t the maxim originally meaning prayer shapes belief? not a reflection of belief?
Good point. I remember something to that effect.
 
According to my politically active RC friends, yes, it is a very important panel. It basically names the men who are to be Bishops and where they go. The leadership positions are key, and by taking three very conservative Americans OFF the panel (Levada, Burke, and Rigali) and and naming a very progressive and social justice Bishop to replace them, it says quite a bit.

And DG, I like him very much too.
Perhaps the most important panel. I believe one of Pope Francis’ most lasting legacies for the Church will be the bishops and Cardinals he appoints. So far I am pretty happy with how he is doing, and I hope he keeps it up with the help of Cupich and others.
 
Yet, what if the spectrum is so wide as to embrace both truth and error… This was the concern of many bishops at the synod where a Catholic can be in line with Church teaching in one diocese, then cross over into another diocese and be out-of-bounds. Truth is not a function of geography.
Thankfully Pope Francis and Archbishop Cupich continue to lead toward Truth.
 
But there has always been disagreements on interpretation of church teachings, as well as praxis. I see that parish to parish where I live. And obviously the Bishops are in disagreement. How would you deal with it? The Bishops are in charge of their own Dioceses, are they not?

And since the Pope chose Archbishop Cupich to be on the panel to choose other Bishops, it seems to me that Cupich is more in line with the Pope’s own thinking.

I am not Roman Catholic so I don’t fully understand your political system, but as an outsider, it seems to me that people (or rather church leaders) disagree. It’s the reality of any organization. And now, Pope Francis is bringing in people who will lead in ways that are important to him.
He is also trying to select bishops who are good and strong leaders, and not merely ideologues. That is equally important, in my view.
 
He is also trying to select bishops who are good and strong leaders, and not merely ideologues. That is equally important, in my view.
TMC, you are absolutely right. Bishops have a job description that would scare most people away. They MUST be good leaders and administrators, ones that are not living in a tower but there amongst the people they serve. They must know what it’s like for the person in the pew. Pope Francis exemplifies this wonderfully.

Ideologue? It’s part of the job description too, as is PR manager.

Anyway, I think that Archbishop Cupich, from what I see and what I hear, is all of the above. God grant him many years.
 
Wasn’t he the one that forbade priests from participating in 40 days for life when he was in either Washington or Oregon?

This is a scary appointment…
Jedliz and Ireaneaus1:

Like many, and both of you, I am also concerned about this appointment. Most of the bishop appointments (most, not all) that I have seen under Pope Francis I seem to be fairly good, with seminary rectors, teachers, campus ministers (Bishop Konderla for one - I know him) and strong leaders, (such as Bishop Folda, Bishop Scharfenberger, and Bishop Zielinski) as well as others with good pastoral experience (i.e. Lexington Kentucky and one or two dioceses in Pensylvania). My concern is having a repeat of 1973 through 1980 in the United States (no need to elaborate) and Pope Francis I did appoint a new Papal Nuncio recently as well.

I’m concerned too about the slower bishop appointments. Salt Lake City has been without a bishop for over a year (I’m thinking the current apostolic administrator will be tapped), and Rockville Center (NY), Newark (NJ), and Arlington (VA) are still waiting on appointments. Lubbock (TX) has a bishop who reached 75 not long ago, as does Memphis and Anchorage.

There are also some auxiliary bishop slots to fill. Sometimes, a good priest in the diocese who has some chancery experience will be appointed an auxiliary bishop, such as a vicar general or an educator.

I pray that Fr. James Gould, Fr. Brian Bashista, or Fr. Eric Albertson is given the “nod” for the Diocese of Arlington, Virginia. However, I’m not the papal nuncio or Pope Francis, but I can pray.
 
In my opinion, Bishop Robert Morlino of Wisconsin should be a Cardinal.
 
Correct, in Washington.
He seems like another believer of that false “seamless garment” theory (Cardinal Bernardines) which states that the obligation to feed the poor, and protect the environment, etc etc carries the same moral weight as the evil of abortion. It is scary if he indeed did prohibit priests to march for life,
 
In my opinion, Bishop Robert Morlino of Wisconsin should be a Cardinal.
When this thread started, I knew what was coming down the line…I just did not expect it to happen this quickly :o

And yes, I agree with you. Bishop Robert Morlino is a very good Bishop & should be a Cardinal…

+PAX :highprayer:
 
Congratulations to Cardinal-Elect Cupich! I pray that his social justice philosophy permeates every corner of the Church in the USA as well as Canada. After the political intrigue that Bishop Chaput was part of during Papa’s visit last year, I think it will be a long shot for him to ever have the red Beretta placed on his head. 🤷
 
Congratulations to Cardinal-Elect Cupich! I pray that his social justice philosophy permeates every corner of the Church in the USA as well as Canada. After the political intrigue that Bishop Chaput was part of during Papa’s visit last year, I think it will be a long shot for him to ever have the red Beretta placed on his head. 🤷
I would tend to agree (and I am a big fan of Chaput who thinks he deserves a red hat). I highly doubt that Pope Francis will ever make him a Cardinal.
 
Congratulations to Cardinal-Elect Cupich! I pray that his social justice philosophy permeates every corner of the Church in the USA as well as Canada. After the political intrigue that Bishop Chaput was part of during Papa’s visit last year, I think it will be a long shot for him to ever have the red Beretta placed on his head. 🤷
I hope not… Sounds petty of the pope if that’s the reason to pass over Chaput. After all, the pope invited various viewpoints into the dialogue. Did he really expect everyone to agree with him?
 
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You didn’t Post #9? Also, while bishop of Rapid City, South Dakota, Cupich locked the doors of one of his parishes during the Easter Triduum to prevent the parish from celebrating the traditional Latin Mass. Really!?
I suggest you read the Motu Proprio Summorum Pontificum that allows the celebration of the pre-Vatican II Mass:
Art. 2. In Masses celebrated without a congregation, any Catholic priest of the Latin rite, whether secular or regular, may use either the Roman Missal published in 1962 by Blessed Pope John XXIII or the Roman Missal promulgated in 1970 by Pope Paul VI, and may do so on any day, with the exception of the Easter Triduum. For such a celebration with either Missal, the priest needs no permission from the Apostolic See or from his own Ordinary.
Pope Benedict specifically excluded the Easter Triduum from the permission to celebrate the pre-Vatican II liturgy. Abp. Cupich was well within his rights to prevent this from happening within churches in his jurisdiction. He was within his authority, and in complete conformity with Summorum Pontificum. To allow this group to celebrate would have been allowing an act of disobedience.
 
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